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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: December 24th, 2009, 10:10 am 
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The problem is simple. D1 schools look at the caliber of schedule a school plays, too. It has been well documented on seops that Logan is a big fish in a small pond in the SEOAL. If they were to leave and play in a REAL conference, things would change on the recruiting circuit. Of course, that IS assuming they could actually win in another conference....Until then, the purple can keep winning an inferior league and watching their kids suffer because no college wants kids that don't play against competition at least equal to them......they cant compete once they get on campus because they aren't used to a shark tank mentality that is commonplace in college football.


Java............your ideation is unfounded because the "little fish" in the "little pond" that Logan swims in have gotten plenty of D1 recruits out there (i.e. Portsmouth, Chillicothe, Ironton to name a few). Like I said, the issue falls back on the recruiting coordination effort. There is a severe deficiency in that aspect. The last D1 player Logan produced was Derek Harden and he had to walk on at Ohio State. Was he OSU starter D1 talent? No. However, he could have easily started at other good size D1 schools across the nation. So the school and the coaches need to coordinate better on building a viable recruiting program that will afford opportunities to Logan players that they would not get otherwise and are not getting now. By the way, before someone goes on here blabbing about how I am bashing the coaching staff, I am not. I am friends with many of them and I have brought up the recruiting coordination issue to them as well. The are trying to make a better effort on it they say. But again, Java, rather than just playing the "Bash Logan" and "Bash the SEOAL" card, do your research. As for Logan joining a "Big Pond" league, that is for another thread. I am sure in your mind the only "Big Pond" league to you is the OCC.


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: December 26th, 2009, 3:19 am 
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he did not attend any combines...

how much do they cost?


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: December 26th, 2009, 4:48 pm 
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osu*me wrote:
he did not attend any combines...

how much do they cost?


That is probably the single biggest factor affecting scholarship offers other than on field play(which can be overlooked). They are usually not too much. "Camps" can be very expensive(300 $ or more) but "combines" are around $25 and if the player is a legitimate D1 prospect that fee is often waved because the coaches want to see that player. When I was in high school I attended a combine at UC (I was nowhere near a D1 prospect) for $25 and a few camps and a few combines at D3 schools. At the UC camp, there were a few larger schools (Glenville, Colerain, a few others) that brough all of there D1 prospects and had the fees waived. Other individual athletes from other schools also had their fees waived so that the UC coaching staff and other staffs could get an up-close look at them.


As I said before, when Chris Givens was named MVP of the Louisville NIKE elite combine (or somethin like that) is when the offers started pouring in for him.


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: December 28th, 2009, 10:40 pm 
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KC Java wrote:
The problem is simple. D1 schools look at the caliber of schedule a school plays, too. It has been well documented on seops that Logan is a big fish in a small pond in the SEOAL. If they were to leave and play in a REAL conference, things would change on the recruiting circuit. Of course, that IS assuming they could actually win in another conference....Until then, the purple can keep winning an inferior league and watching their kids suffer because no college wants kids that don't play against competition at least equal to them......they cant compete once they get on campus because they aren't used to a shark tank mentality that is commonplace in college football.


If you are going to TRY to bash Logan..could you at least make an ATTEMPT to be original??? You just go to another thread and copy and paste? Couldn't have an original thought? :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: December 30th, 2009, 12:34 am 
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why is so many people jealous of logan,good people,hard working athletes-and logan is going to be huge in the next 5yrs,so many new faces moving to logan every body in se-ohio should be proud i always root for every team in se-ohio to do good.


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: December 30th, 2009, 12:48 pm 
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Big guy on the block can't beatem so you just don't like them.
Enrollment is dropping everywhere in SE OHio.
Look at Chillicothe 20 yrs ago Div I now DIII


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: December 30th, 2009, 1:25 pm 
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The thread is drifting...this isn't about Logan, it's about Pat. I say when the smoke clears he will have an offer worth accepting. It might not be a DI offer but he will be given a chance (along with some of his teammates) to play well at the next level.


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: December 30th, 2009, 1:35 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: December 30th, 2009, 3:06 pm 
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pat could play anywhere good luck.


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: December 30th, 2009, 11:35 pm 
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Pat Angle is an athlete through and through and an even better kid. There is no reason whatsoever that schools are not recruiting him to play QB.


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: December 31st, 2009, 2:16 am 
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I could see him getting more looks as a safety than a QB in college although I do think he could play and will get a few opportunities to play QB at the college level.


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: December 31st, 2009, 7:18 pm 
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KC Java wrote:
The problem is simple. D1 schools look at the caliber of schedule a school plays, too. It has been well documented on seops that Logan is a big fish in a small pond in the SEOAL. If they were to leave and play in a REAL conference, things would change on the recruiting circuit. Of course, that IS assuming they could actually win in another conference....Until then, the purple can keep winning an inferior league and watching their kids suffer because no college wants kids that don't play against competition at least equal to them......they cant compete once they get on campus because they aren't used to a shark tank mentality that is commonplace in college football.



BORING!!


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: January 1st, 2010, 1:01 pm 
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If the above "quote" is true, then not one person in SE OH will go to a D-1 school. Since Logan did end up with the most computer points and have the toughest overall schedule in this part of the state. That would mean the TVC, the SEOAL and any other area League couldn't be recruited. Since we're all so weak. Does that make sense? lol
BORING!


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: January 1st, 2010, 1:59 pm 
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1987chieftains wrote:
KC Java wrote:
The problem is simple. D1 schools look at the caliber of schedule a school plays, too. It has been well documented on seops that Logan is a big fish in a small pond in the SEOAL. If they were to leave and play in a REAL conference, things would change on the recruiting circuit. Of course, that IS assuming they could actually win in another conference....Until then, the purple can keep winning an inferior league and watching their kids suffer because no college wants kids that don't play against competition at least equal to them......they cant compete once they get on campus because they aren't used to a shark tank mentality that is commonplace in college football.



BORING!!


Logan has sent a few kids to OSU on full rides. They have had other kids go to big ten schools. a few that got hurt before they started college to. The main problem has always been education. A school recruits a kid and he drops out with bad grades after a year. That is changing in SEO. Schools are getting much better.


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: January 5th, 2010, 1:18 am 
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Great point on the eduation side of it Orange and Brown.


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: January 5th, 2010, 8:53 am 
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Orange and Brown wrote:
1987chieftains wrote:
KC Java wrote:
The problem is simple. D1 schools look at the caliber of schedule a school plays, too. It has been well documented on seops that Logan is a big fish in a small pond in the SEOAL. If they were to leave and play in a REAL conference, things would change on the recruiting circuit. Of course, that IS assuming they could actually win in another conference....Until then, the purple can keep winning an inferior league and watching their kids suffer because no college wants kids that don't play against competition at least equal to them......they cant compete once they get on campus because they aren't used to a shark tank mentality that is commonplace in college football.



BORING!!


Logan has sent a few kids to OSU on full rides. They have had other kids go to big ten schools. a few that got hurt before they started college to. The main problem has always been education. A school recruits a kid and he drops out with bad grades after a year. That is changing in SEO. Schools are getting much better.



Out of my class one went to Wisconsin and one went to Notre dame--Go Chiefs


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: January 5th, 2010, 10:59 am 
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know all wrote:
why is so many people jealous of logan,good people,hard working athletes-and logan is going to be huge in the next 5yrs,so many new faces moving to logan every body in se-ohio should be proud i always root for every team in se-ohio to do good.

Nobody said anything about being jealous. Get over yourself. I for one think that he might be the best palyer in all of SEO, but players like Roback and Arnold... and the superleg Drew Basil, make it hard to say he is. However, we still do not have close to the caliber of athletes in our neck of the woods as in the rest of the state. I would rather see Pat go to a smaller school and have an opportunity to be a 3 or 4 year starter and perhaps play right away. Also, it sounds like Pat has not really helped himself by not getting to combines where he can be looked at in a wider spectrum. Do you think Jim Tressel makes much efort to recruit in southeastern ohio? Unfortunately, kids from our area have to be more aggressive tom get recruited. He will be somewhere if he wants to be, it just depends where. If he wants to play QB, their is somehere for him, but not a D1 at this point unless he is walking on.


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: January 5th, 2010, 11:42 pm 
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BlizzardMan wrote:
know all wrote:
why is so many people jealous of logan,good people,hard working athletes-and logan is going to be huge in the next 5yrs,so many new faces moving to logan every body in se-ohio should be proud i always root for every team in se-ohio to do good.

Nobody said anything about being jealous. Get over yourself. I for one think that he might be the best palyer in all of SEO, but players like Roback and Arnold... and the superleg Drew Basil, make it hard to say he is. However, we still do not have close to the caliber of athletes in our neck of the woods as in the rest of the state. I would rather see Pat go to a smaller school and have an opportunity to be a 3 or 4 year starter and perhaps play right away. Also, it sounds like Pat has not really helped himself by not getting to combines where he can be looked at in a wider spectrum. Do you think Jim Tressel makes much efort to recruit in southeastern ohio? Unfortunately, kids from our area have to be more aggressive tom get recruited. He will be somewhere if he wants to be, it just depends where. If he wants to play QB, their is somehere for him, but not a D1 at this point unless he is walking on.

that wasnt what i was talking about,but good points anyway.


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: January 7th, 2010, 12:12 am 
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This is still one of the best High School QB that I have seen in a lot of years, good luck to Pat.


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: January 7th, 2010, 8:17 pm 
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Location: & headed for home! Waverly, home of the 2009 SOC II, Sectional, and District Baseball Champions
Any offers yet?


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: January 15th, 2010, 7:05 pm 
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Any updates ?


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: January 17th, 2010, 2:29 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: January 18th, 2010, 12:46 am 
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I do. Chris had offers from WVA, CIN, Iowa, Indiana, Mich. State, Marshall, Ohio U, Bowling Green, Akron, Stanford, visits from Mich. a good long look from Ohio State and I'm sure I've forgotton 1 or 2


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: January 18th, 2010, 9:37 am 
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what mc donalds he at now? must be something seriously wrong that angle has no offers by now! what's up?


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: January 18th, 2010, 1:32 pm 
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Something is up. Barring a last minute offer, which is possible, I see Angle walking on to a program (D1). Then again, that is if he wants to do that. I know he wants to play football. But a perfect storm has to happen for him to get some legit offers at this point. When is national signing/commitment day?


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: January 18th, 2010, 11:40 pm 
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OU has called asked him twice to walk-on, but thats bull. They want a free player. He visited findlay last week. He is visiting a school in Pennsylvania soon, Edinborough (sp?) i think. The university of Virginia at Wise is the only school that has offered an athletic scholarship.


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: January 18th, 2010, 11:41 pm 
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I think its ridiculous, that an all-ohio offensive player of the year, isn't getting Division 1 looks. Something's gotta give.


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: January 19th, 2010, 3:57 pm 
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You got it right osu*me......that is ridiculous. OU wants the reversal of what Pat deserves. They want a free ride from Pat instead of him getting a free ride from them. Besides Findlay, who in the heck is Edinborough and UV-Wise? I think it is ridiculous that no D1 school has made an offer. Even if it be an Akron, Marshall, or Bowling Green. What does a guy with his credibility and awards have to do? If he doesn't get an offer by signing day, I think he should attempt to walk on to a program.........but not at OU!


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
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BTW............ its Edinboro, a very nice D-II school in the PSAC. Beautiful campus. Browns & the Buffalo Bills used to scrimage there for several years.

I recall a former Logan OL played for them about 10 years ago. YSU played them in an opener & the Logan player did very well vs I-AA YSU.


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: January 19th, 2010, 5:54 pm 
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How about Mount Union? Their football team is full players who were either a step too slow, an inch too short, or whatever reason DI coaches do not offer them scholarships.


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: January 19th, 2010, 10:41 pm 
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You got it right osu*me......that is ridiculous. OU wants the reversal of what Pat deserves. They want a free ride from Pat instead of him getting a free ride from them. Besides Findlay, who in the heck is Edinborough and UV-Wise? I think it is ridiculous that no D1 school has made an offer. Even if it be an [b]Akron, Marshall, or Bowling Green. [/b] What does a guy with his credibility and awards have to do? If he doesn't get an offer by signing day, I think he should attempt to walk on to a program.........but not at OU!


What's the difference?

None of those schools have or will offer him.

Ohio has called him so that makes them the bad guy cause the other guys haven't called at all?

So logic states that he walk-on to the school the farthest away from his home and family?

Makes no sense at all......unless one is on the Ohio University sucks at football and always will bandwagon.

Also if he's as good as everyone says then he should earn a scholly at Ohio with no problem.


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: January 19th, 2010, 11:54 pm 
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You clearly haven't seen him play and therefore have no idea what you are talking about. Do some research, then come back to state your case.


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: January 19th, 2010, 11:57 pm 
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Ohio wants a free player, wants gate tickets. If they aren't going to offer a scholarship, then why play there when someone else will offer him money to play, where he will play...a lot.


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 Post subject: Re: Any D-1 Offers for Logan's Patrick Angle?
PostPosted: January 20th, 2010, 12:43 am 
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whats pat 6'2 195 sound good to me,he should be getting all kind of d-2 offers then if not d-1.jon neff was getting 5or 6d-1 offers and pat cant get one dont make sense.


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