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Who wins in 2010?
Minford 17%  17%  [ 31 ]
Northwest 2%  2%  [ 3 ]
Valley 10%  10%  [ 18 ]
Waverly 9%  9%  [ 17 ]
West 30%  30%  [ 56 ]
Wheelersburg 32%  32%  [ 60 ]
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PostPosted: December 7th, 2009, 2:38 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
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NW possibly getting new coach so pray it be a good one


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
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Should be another good year in the SOC II. West returns a lot as does valley. Wheelersburg always finds a way to be in the thick of things but I don't know what they have coming back. Waverly lost a talented class and will be rebuilding for a few years IMO. Northwest will never win an SOC game if they don't stick with a coach for more than a year at a time. Minford loses a lot but also has some great talent coming back to fill the spots. The biggest question mark for the Falcons will be at QB after losing 3 year starter Aaron Oesch to graduation, they also lose a good bit on the o-line and some skill positions. If the guys put another good year of work in the off season good things will happen. Championships are won and lost in the weightrooms in winter and spring, summer is too late to decide if you want to win or not. I know Coach Daniels and Co. will have the boys ready to play next year.


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
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West has alot coming back and could be the team to beat. But you can easily make a case for most teams in the SOC 2. Burg, Minford, and Valley all have really good players returning. So I think it will be wide open for the teams mentioned.


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
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I think West will win the Soc, thats an unbiased opinion, they will have 10 Seniors and 10 Juniors next year they lose 3 Seniors that started...I think that will be a good mixture and enough to win the Soc and make a good playoff run...I except the Soc to be down compared to the past few years, I think Valley could finish second, but I don't know if they can beat burg, if they are going to do it, this is the year to do it...heres my prediction:

1. West
2. Burg
3. Valley
4. Minford
5. Waverly
6. Northwest


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
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Minford will have Butcher at QB and Slone, Piquet, Gaines at RB. Loyd at WR. Need to find the O-line but the skill is there. There is a good crop coming up but no 6-5 270 guys. Also, Butcher was the 400 meter district champion in track, he will run alot. Keep an eye on Gaines he ripped up Ridgewood in the playoffs filling in for McCormick who was hurt. I think Minford could win it again next year looking at all the other schools who lost alot of their talent too. Minford has a good feeder system now if you look at the classes they had 15 players per class.


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
PostPosted: December 10th, 2009, 9:19 am 
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Minford has a good coach and a good system that fits their personel. Their offensive line this year was very good. They will struggle to replace them. The will miss Oesch big time. His ability to pass and make plays with his feet kept teams honest. They had several guys who were excellent complementary players this year that will have to step up. That's a big change. I think their going to take a big step back this year IMO.

Wheelersburg lost alot of skill, but they still have several coming back. I believe they have several linemen back also. They will be good again, just not as good as last year.

Valley returns alot of experienced players. Alot of skill guys. They should have their best team in a while.

Waverly seems to be on a downward trend.

Northwest is a long ways off.

West should be good. Alot of starters back. Much more experienced. Graduated a small senior class. Those sophs to be will push for alot of time. West is very talented.

I agree with Sider
1. West
2. Burg
3. Valley
4. Minford
5. Waverly
6. Northwest


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
PostPosted: December 10th, 2009, 10:46 pm 
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If the Falcons work as hard as they did this season, and luck goes their way, I see another Falcon title. If not, it will be down to Burg and West.


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
PostPosted: December 10th, 2009, 11:00 pm 
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I've heard wheelersburg has replaced south point with oak hill in wk 2 and and cleve vasj with fairland in wk 4


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
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Minford replaces Coal Grove, River Valley and Huntington Ross with Meigs, South Point and Piketon. Not sure of the weeks though.


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
PostPosted: December 11th, 2009, 1:45 pm 
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Location: Minford......Home of the 2009 SOC II CHAMPIONS......THE "MIGHTY" MINFORD FALCONS!!!!
Burg is losing ALOT of talent at the skill positions and line. I think this year was their peak year for a couple years at least.

Minford is the team to beat and the conference champions. I see them filling a few holes on the line and being in contention again next year.

West will be tough if their line gets better. They need to really hit the weights hard this year and get better up front.

I see Valley as being right there competing for the title. They bring back alot of talent. I think there are 4 teams that can win this thing next year for sure.


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
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I would like to see the teams in the league open it up more. I think it would only benefit them come playoff time. I believe that's why we rarely see a team consistently get out of the second round.


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
PostPosted: December 11th, 2009, 9:29 pm 
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28Buck wrote:
mattash wrote:
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Minford replaces Coal Grove, River Valley and Huntington Ross with Meigs, South Point and Piketon. Not sure of the weeks though.


We open with South Point 8/22 (H)
Megs 9/17 (H)
I believe Piketon replaces Huntington Ross (A)


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
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I think West should win it with all of their upperclassmen leaership and they have almost everyone back from last years 6-4 team so here is my prediction for the rest of the SOC 2

1.West
2.Wheelersburg
3.Valley
4.Minford
5.Waverly
6.Northwest

I think both West and Wheelersburg will both make the playoffs also and should win at least one game.


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
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West will be one of the favorites if they can find a line for trevon pendelton to run behind. They will have some skilled sophs. playing right away.

Minford will have to replace a good QB and RB. Gaines will prolly take the majority of the carries but will have to be careful of injury since he plays LB.

Valley will bring back most of the experience but I am still not convinced they work hard in weight room.

Waverly will either struggle or be a surprise

Northwest continues to struggle with coaching change

Burg offense will be as good as last year and will put up points, they have their line back, except their center, and plenty of runners, although the speed is gone. They lost all the Defense and the quick d line they have had for the past two years is gone. Burg's coaching will have to rely on bringing more to the box to stop the run and take chances against the pass.

Until Minford can upset Burg at home and Valley get over mentally against the Burg. Look for West and Burg to battle it out for the SOC week 10.


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
PostPosted: December 14th, 2009, 1:52 pm 
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West will be one of the favorites if they can find a line for trevon pendelton to run behind. They will have some skilled sophs. playing right away.

Minford will have to replace a good QB and RB. Gaines will prolly take the majority of the carries but will have to be careful of injury since he plays LB.

Valley will bring back most of the experience but I am still not convinced they work hard in weight room.

Waverly will either struggle or be a surprise

Northwest continues to struggle with coaching change

Burg offense will be as good as last year and will put up points, they have their line back, except their center, and plenty of runners, although the speed is gone. They lost all the Defense and the quick d line they have had for the past two years is gone. Burg's coaching will have to rely on bringing more to the box to stop the run and take chances against the pass.

Until Minford can upset Burg at home and Valley get over mentally against the Burg. Look for West and Burg to battle it out for the SOC week 10.


Burg lost Slivey, Walker, Craigmiles and Lang. Who knows about Shank's shoulder. But if hes the QB whos running the ball? I don't recall any other backs that ran last year that showed much promise for next year. Who are they?


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
PostPosted: December 14th, 2009, 2:46 pm 
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^^^^^^^^^



None that saw varsity action. They always have good runners. Schank should be ok, if not then of course it wont look as good. Luster is a great FB and will be a nice addition to the offense. I think Whitley will move to QB, he took b-ball off to focus on f-ball. Soph Hood and Obrien are pretty good, not as good as Lang and Craigmiles but will do fine behind the returning line. Hopefully Massie will come out and add some speed.

Burg will be more conservative than last year if that is possible because their team speed will not be there. If they can slow down the game I see burg repeating last year's win total. This team will be more team oriented than last year's team which I believe hurt them than helped them.

Burg also loses alot of depth which may hurt them if they are in a battle.

TE will prolly be Parsley, SE will be Stegman, Bendolph(if he plays), and Shears


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
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It should be a dog fight again with 2 to 3 teams in the playoffs. Based on who has what coming back, I'd have to make Valley the preseason favorite followed by West. West will disappoint again if they don't solve pass offense and defense. Minford will be better than people are predicting. Good coaching, hard working players, a system that fits them, and they will have good skill players. Minford's 4 departing O linemen will be hard to replace on Offense and Defense. Someone will have to step up. Burg probably loses more than anyone but they have a proven record of good teams. Whitley will be an improvement at QB. Shank will be very good, unless the injury slows him down. There are not a lot of younger players evident to replace what was lost. Northwest: who knows.
I was told by one of the player's father that attendance at the weight room is really good at Minford. I agree Valley's problem may be off season work ethic.


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
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What 4- O/Linemen are you talking about ? (Minford)


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
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Minford loses 3 OL not 4. The D wont miss a beat and should be pretty solid next year. The O should look like this
qb-Butcher
FB-Slone
RB-Gaines
RB-Piquet
TE-Taylor
Wr-Lloyd
Not sure on the OL who will play where but they have Miller(most likely at guard) and Conkey?(sp) (played at RT last year).


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
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None that saw varsity action. They always have good runners. Schank should be ok, if not then of course it wont look as good. Luster is a great FB and will be a nice addition to the offense. I think Whitley will move to QB, he took b-ball off to focus on f-ball. Soph Hood and Obrien are pretty good, not as good as Lang and Craigmiles but will do fine behind the returning line. Hopefully Massie will come out and add some speed.

Burg will be more conservative than last year if that is possible because their team speed will not be there. If they can slow down the game I see burg repeating last year's win total. This team will be more team oriented than last year's team which I believe hurt them than helped them.

Burg also loses alot of depth which may hurt them if they are in a battle.

TE will prolly be Parsley, SE will be Stegman, Bendolph(if he plays), and Shears


The question I have about Stegman and Bendolph is that basketball is their ticket to college, not football. Being seniors next year will they risk injury in football, like Bendolph this year, and not being able to play their senior year of basketball that could cost them some offers from colleges?


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
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mikenmike wrote:
Minford loses 3 OL not 4. The D wont miss a beat and should be pretty solid next year. The O should look like this
qb-Butcher
FB-Slone
RB-Gaines
RB-Piquet
TE-Taylor
Wr-Lloyd
Not sure on the OL who will play where but they have Miller(most likely at guard) and Conkey?(sp) (played at RT last year).


i belive the falcons will have the missing spots on the line filled in with good players...what is nice to see is the skilled players coming back next year..Gaines and Slone at at linebacker.Gaines was all distict defence player of the year which is very impressive for a soph. then piqet and butcher at corner. flip over to the other side of the ball you have Slone at Rb who rushed for over 1,ooo yards last season being the first minford back since Eli Parks to go over 1,ooo in one season.piget and gaines are also very good runners.and butcher filling in at Qb who i think is going to be very good for the falcons this year


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
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I agree West will have to step it up a lot, but they have the talent...I would like to see Valley beat Burg, but with a Burg having a senior line coming back and Valley's history against Burg, I don't know if Valley will do it, because teams with senior lines win a lot of football games...but Valley will have Senior line as well...as will West, It will be close next year


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
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Minford O Line Lost

Alley
Kimble
Gilliam
Price (TE)

All at least two year starters.


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
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Redman wrote:
28Buck wrote:
mattash wrote:
Post 2010 Schedules here



Minford replaces Coal Grove, River Valley and Huntington Ross with Meigs, South Point and Piketon. Not sure of the weeks though.


We open with South Point 8/22 (H)
Megs 9/17 (H)
I believe Piketon replaces Huntington Ross (A)


That will be good for Minford, all of those teams are tougher than the ones they had scheduled...


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
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wobycat wrote:
West will be one of the favorites if they can find a line for trevon pendelton to run behind. They will have some skilled sophs. playing right away.

Minford will have to replace a good QB and RB. Gaines will prolly take the majority of the carries but will have to be careful of injury since he plays LB.

Valley will bring back most of the experience but I am still not convinced they work hard in weight room.

Waverly will either struggle or be a surprise

Northwest continues to struggle with coaching change

Burg offense will be as good as last year and will put up points, they have their line back, except their center, and plenty of runners, although the speed is gone. They lost all the Defense and the quick d line they have had for the past two years is gone. Burg's coaching will have to rely on bringing more to the box to stop the run and take chances against the pass.

Until Minford can upset Burg at home and Valley get over mentally against the Burg. Look for West and Burg to battle it out for the SOC week 10.


gaines?? was slone a senior?


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
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falconater wrote:
Minford O Line Lost

Alley
Kimble
Gilliam
Price (TE)

All at least two year starters.


Taylor played alot at TE this year and will be an upgrade imo. Price was a better blocker but Taylor is a better receiving threat and will improve at blocking with another year of lifting. All of them guys will be missed but there is some young talent coming up on the OL.


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
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classof1985 wrote:
wobycat wrote:
West will be one of the favorites if they can find a line for trevon pendelton to run behind. They will have some skilled sophs. playing right away.

Minford will have to replace a good QB and RB. Gaines will prolly take the majority of the carries but will have to be careful of injury since he plays LB.

Valley will bring back most of the experience but I am still not convinced they work hard in weight room.

Waverly will either struggle or be a surprise

Northwest continues to struggle with coaching change

Burg offense will be as good as last year and will put up points, they have their line back, except their center, and plenty of runners, although the speed is gone. They lost all the Defense and the quick d line they have had for the past two years is gone. Burg's coaching will have to rely on bringing more to the box to stop the run and take chances against the pass.

Until Minford can upset Burg at home and Valley get over mentally against the Burg. Look for West and Burg to battle it out for the SOC week 10.


gaines?? was slone a senior?


Slone was a junior and will be the feature back again for minford but Tyler Gaines will get alot of carries for them as well.


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
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My apologies, I thought Slone was a senior. if Minford can get a line together and get some productive passing, then they will have just as much a shot as anyone.

I believe stegman will play football he rarely gets physical in the wideout spot and I doubt he will play D. Bendolph, well I have no idea what he will do he may pack it in and go some where else to play at the end of the year.


mikenmike wrote:
classof1985 wrote:
wobycat wrote:
West will be one of the favorites if they can find a line for trevon pendelton to run behind. They will have some skilled sophs. playing right away.

Minford will have to replace a good QB and RB. Gaines will prolly take the majority of the carries but will have to be careful of injury since he plays LB.

Valley will bring back most of the experience but I am still not convinced they work hard in weight room.

Waverly will either struggle or be a surprise

Northwest continues to struggle with coaching change

Burg offense will be as good as last year and will put up points, they have their line back, except their center, and plenty of runners, although the speed is gone. They lost all the Defense and the quick d line they have had for the past two years is gone. Burg's coaching will have to rely on bringing more to the box to stop the run and take chances against the pass.

Until Minford can upset Burg at home and Valley get over mentally against the Burg. Look for West and Burg to battle it out for the SOC week 10.


gaines?? was slone a senior?


Slone was a junior and will be the feature back again for minford but Tyler Gaines will get alot of carries for them as well.


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 Post subject: Re: SOC 2 2010
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mikenmike wrote:
falconater wrote:
Minford O Line Lost

Alley
Kimble
Gilliam
Price (TE)

All at least two year starters.


Taylor played alot at TE this year and will be an upgrade imo. Price was a better blocker but Taylor is a better receiving threat and will improve at blocking with another year of lifting. All of them guys will be missed but there is some young talent coming up on the OL.


I believe Price was the second leading receiver in 2008 and he caught everything thrown his way this year. He just didnt get half the passes thrown to him this year that he did last year and he was open quite a bit. Taylor had some reps at TE but not alot. Taylor has more speed and will probably be in on spread formations. He needs to add some size and work on blocking as do all the upcoming juniors & seniors. Minford may see improvement at QB next year and may have a better passing game since Butchers arm isnt as strong as Oeschs and Minford will have to throw more higher percentage passes. the short routes were open all year this year not to mention Butcher is faster than Oesch. Pre season work starts now.


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I wasn't saying price wasn't a good receiving TE just saying Taylor will be an upgrade. Alot faster, good hands, and with another year of being in the lifting program he will be a beast next year. Taylor did play a good amount this year, price just had the majority of the snaps. The majority of the passes minford had thrown this year were short routes? It's not like they just costantly were going deep, the problem with price maybe not getting as many catches this year was that Mcknight was having a great year so he was the go-to guy for Oesch.


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mikenmike wrote:
I wasn't saying price wasn't a good receiving TE just saying Taylor will be an upgrade. Alot faster, good hands, and with another year of being in the lifting program he will be a beast next year. Taylor did play a good amount this year, price just had the majority of the snaps. The majority of the passes minford had thrown this year were short routes? It's not like they just costantly were going deep, the problem with price maybe not getting as many catches this year was that Mcknight was having a great year so he was the go-to guy for Oesch.


We still have to remember how old these guys are. I remember one year a boy form the Burg lost so much weight to impress his girlfriend and had a hard time putting playing weight back on.


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mikenmike wrote:
I wasn't saying price wasn't a good receiving TE just saying Taylor will be an upgrade. Alot faster, good hands, and with another year of being in the lifting program he will be a beast next year. Taylor did play a good amount this year, price just had the majority of the snaps. The majority of the passes minford had thrown this year were short routes? It's not like they just costantly were going deep, the problem with price maybe not getting as many catches this year was that Mcknight was having a great year so he was the go-to guy for Oesch.


I wouldnt say an upgrade. a different look sure. I think Taylor will be a tight end more like Zach White was, not necessarily a big physical tight end but another threat in the spread. Price is a good blocking tight end and has good hands but is more physical. nothing wrong with either just two different types of player. alot will come down to how the balance is between running and passing. No i did not say the majority of the passes were short routes this year but i think they will be Next year with Butcher being the QB. i think Taylor's strong suit is defense. he had a great year this year and i look for him to be even better next year after a good year in the weight room.

No need to focus the discussion on these two players. Minford has a lot of shoes to fill and this off season will be more critical than most. it will be interesting to see who ends up wear. i just wish these kids were lifting instead of playing basketball. they are losing several critical months of lifting. I expect good things out of JP Piguet next year and I think Justin Miller will be the stud lineman next year.


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