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Thanks SOSoftball. Always nice to see the #s.
We are handling our own very well in D4 come tournament time but definitely struggling in D3 outside of Burg.

Thanks for the info SOSoftball & SoftballAlways. Ptown: Wasn't questioning "your" playing ability nor "your" coaching ability but...ok. The subject that you and I were discussing, well, that I was talking about, was the level of coaching vs the level of talent in our area. Th...

I think we're all obviously pretty much in agreement that our area has plenty of talent, Ptown. Get a clue?
Your fervent misguided sense of coaching is stunning.
Here's a question for ya Ptown.
Outside of Burg, in SOC ll, with all of our talent, how many District Titles in the last 12 years?

Yes Ptown, that's exactly what I'm saying.
There are in fact other players other than Burg receiving scholarships to play softball but it's not because of the majority of high school coaches.

Totally agree that there are way better coaches out there vs the majority. Problem is, the schools/powers that be are not seeing that or just don't care. They are going to hire who they want for whatever reason. I'm throwing Webster/Messer out there because they seem to be the only ones in SOCII (ot...

So let me see if I got this right. It doesn't matter who or how good a coach is in high school if you as a high school athlete have no aspiration to play or decide to play less than 4 yrs in college? If I'm reading that right, that is exactly the mentality of the majority that I speak of and why Bur...

Spot on CaptainMorgan. Andy Messer got hired last year Manitou. He has good knowledge of today's game and is one of those that kept playing competitively himself through adult years. And... as far as saying that it doesn't matter who the High School Coach is based on the fact that the majority won't...

Totally agree in "area".
Coaching not even close in SOCII.
With exception of A.Messer - South Webster

Same here Ptown and going out on a limb here in saying that if you as one of the better talents in our area transfer to Burg from one of the majority schools, will definitely be better off.

Totally agree on the whole staying loyal thing but hey... lets face it, our better travel talent is getting bored and getting tired of the decisions to hire/keep High School coaches whos coaching abilities are no more than Jr. High level. It's not these coaches faults, they like to coach, they're of...

You got it Redsfan. With the exception of South Webster hiring A. Messer, Burg and their powers that be are obviously the only ones that get the fact that you need a coach that lives in today's softball world. The game has evolved so much just in the last 10 years that the majority of our areas best...

Depth & Coaching in my opinion is the key. I know how obvious that sounds but lets get real. The reason for the majority of the better talent in SOCII hasn't been from the "High School" coaches. A lot of the better talent in SOCII outweighs the coaching abilities of the majority of the...

Oh ok.
Am I the only one with this username or should I make a different one?

This may be a stupid question or I may actually be late to the party but I have noticed past posts from my username that I didnt post. Anyone else?

Totally agree SEOhio.

I agree that the conference awards don't really hold very much weight outside of their High School careers but I think everyone that has ever received them truly ejoyed it at the time and that's where these girls are now. They are just something the players can look back on and say "I accomplis...

Totally agree softball dad. As we all know the way it should be and the way that it's done are two different things. Then you have the whole other side of the coin where upperclassmen are awarded strictly because they are upperclassmen versus keeping it simple and going by the numbers and giving the...

Definitely can't argue with those 3 and Hughes from Oak Hill. Wolfenbarker also plays SS/2B as anyone of these girls can play anywhere. Last heard, all 4 of these girls have hit 7-10 HRs each while, I'm assuming, carrying a .500+ avg. Not to mention their RBIs. Would definitely like to know those #s...

Totally agree. It's pretty sad that there are some Bush League (so called) Coaches out there that will knowingly... surpass one of their own players that actually earned and put up the numbers and pad "certain others" stats to justify who receives or gets nominated for certain awards. Do t...

Tolle is a Freshman as well.
They put the work in year round with Travel Ball.
Not your typical Freshmen.