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If consolidation comes to Southeast Ohio, we might as well bolt from the Ohsaa. The reason, no way would talent from our area compete at the D III, II and I level. Just look at Logan, they would make the D I playoffs and then have to face the real D I talent and get smacked around. This is no way a slam to Logan, they are a fine program, not just top tier state wise D I or II program.

I know, we should just form a Southeast Ohio Athletic league!


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Orange and Brown wrote:If Trimble local schools have to desovle then it won't be consoiladion. The district will be able to vote on what school district they want to become a part of and if that district accepts then they will. If The folks of Trimble Township want there kids to go to NY they will become Buckeyes. Thats they way it works
First of all, the topic brought up was consolidation of the Athens County schools. You are talking about something totally different. If the state says Trimble and Nelsonville are going to combine, then Nelsonville York and Glouster Trimble will be gone, and a new school will be formed. No matter how much you want to deny it and not let go of it. Much like the people of York do not want to let go of their identity, they must do so and so will you.


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Would love to see Warren get back into the TVC, if any other SEOAL teams leave. Not too sure that River valley going to the TVC is a good move for them but I don't see them fitting in any other place.


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HeavyD..The issue with Nelsonville and Buchtel during that time period was there were two schools. Both schools were closed and a new school built. So yes, you have consolidation and closing of two school districts into one. A new school
was built and a new name,, Nelsonville-York. If and that is a big If,,Trimble does close the doors there student body will be moved to either Athens, Nelsonville, Federal Hocking or even Miller. The whole district will not be forced to go to Nelsonville. Athens is just as close if not closer for some students. Plus Fed and Miller at not that far away either. People living in the Burr Oak area are not far from Miller at all. So are they going to make Athens change there name for all the students going there? Of course not,, Trimble will more than likely be divided into sections and those students will be told they are going to another district. Jacksonville maybe to Athens, Glouster to Nelsonville. Really we all know its a big IF. I dont think I will ever see it in my life time. All of us can guess and have our own opinions but like everyone is stating The STATE will more than likely have there say. But for now,,this is my opinion.. Nelsonville will take any of those students,,esp the ones that can down right play ball!!!!!


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NYF wrote:HeavyD..The issue with Nelsonville and Buchtel during that time period was there were two schools. Both schools were closed and a new school built. So yes, you have consolidation and closing of two school districts into one. A new school
was built and a new name,, Nelsonville-York. If and
that is a big If,,Trimble does close the doors there student body will be moved to either Athens, Nelsonville, Federal Hocking or even Miller. The whole district will not be forced to go to Nelsonville. Athens is just as close if not closer for some students. Plus Fed and Miller at not that far away either. People living in the Burr Oak area are not far from Miller at all. So are they going to make Athens change there name for all the students going there? Of course not,, Trimble will more than likely be divided into sections and those students will be told they are going to another district. Jacksonville maybe to Athens, Glouster to Nelsonville. Really we all know its a big IF. I dont think I will ever see it in my life time. All of us can guess and have our own opinions but like everyone is stating The STATE will more than likely have there say. But for now,,this is my opinion.. Nelsonville will take any of those students,,esp the ones that can down right play ball!!!!!
You are wrong! Nelsonville move into Butchel-York High School which was built a few years earlier!


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moonschein wrote:
NYF wrote:HeavyD..The issue with Nelsonville and Buchtel during that time period was there were two schools. Both schools were closed and a new school built. So yes, you have consolidation and closing of two school districts into one. A new school
was built and a new name,, Nelsonville-York. If and
that is a big If,,Trimble does close the doors there student body will be moved to either Athens, Nelsonville, Federal Hocking or even Miller. The whole district will not be forced to go to Nelsonville. Athens is just as close if not closer for some students. Plus Fed and Miller at not that far away either. People living in the Burr Oak area are not far from Miller at all. So are they going to make Athens change there name for all the students going there? Of course not,, Trimble will more than likely be divided into sections and those students will be told they are going to another district. Jacksonville maybe to Athens, Glouster to Nelsonville. Really we all know its a big IF. I dont think I will ever see it in my life time. All of us can guess and have our own opinions but like everyone is stating The STATE will more than likely have there say. But for now,,this is my opinion.. Nelsonville will take any of those students,,esp the ones that can down right play ball!!!!!
You are wrong! Nelsonville move into Butchel-York High School which was built a few years earlier!
Also I don't think they could be moved to Miller as it is a different county.


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County lines really mean little. Check out the attached link to a color coded map of all the school districts in Ohio and you will find that district lines do crossover county lines.

http://www.puco.ohio.gov/pucogis/STATEMAP/sdist_b.pdf

The file is 5.8MB so it may take a minute to open (it took my computer 15 seconds) and it can be enlarged.

My guess would be that when the next wave of consolidation hits, and it will, students from 1 district could be sent to different districts based solely on travel time, especially in SE Ohio. I don't think you will see 1 district completely merge with another. If FH were to be dissolved, it wouldn't suprise me to see FH kids sent to 4 different districts, Warren, Eastern, Athens and maybe Morgan Co based on where they live and the travel time involved.

Just my thoughts.


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Mister B wrote:County lines really mean little. Check out the attached link to a color coded map of all the school districts in Ohio and you will find that district lines do crossover county lines.

http://www.puco.ohio.gov/pucogis/STATEMAP/sdist_b.pdf

The file is 5.8MB so it may take a minute to open (it took my computer 15 seconds) and it can be enlarged.

My guess would be that when the next wave of consolidation hits, and it will, students from 1 district could be sent to different districts based solely on travel time, especially in SE Ohio. I don't think you will see 1 district completely merge with another. If FH were to be dissolved, it wouldn't suprise me to see FH kids sent to 4 different districts, Warren, Eastern, Athens and maybe Morgan Co based on where they live and the travel time involved.

Just my thoughts.

Here in Gallia County the Southwestern attendance area extends into Jackson County along US RT 35 and ST RT 279. Has been that way since at least the 60's.
After the consolidation of the 4 county high schools to form River Valley, the Crown City area of Gallia County on the Gallia/Lawrence County line on ST RT 7 became a part of the Fairland district.


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Here in Gallia County the Southwestern attendance area extends into Jackson County along US RT 35 and ST RT 279. Has been that way since at least the 60's.
After the consolidation of the 4 county high schools to form River Valley, the Crown City area of Gallia County on the Gallia/Lawrence County line on ST RT 7 became a part of the Fairland district.[/quote]


i know kids that live in crown city and the fairland bus picks them up every morning. that was a shock to me that they had a choice but we all love options :mrgreen:


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moon,, u could be right. I know there was a high school in Nelsonville, still standing. The Buchtel HS was on the hill in Buchtel. I thought they built the new high school due to the merger. That is why they called it Nelsonville-York.
I thought the new school opened in August of 1966. Would love to see some old pictures of the Buchtel High School.
I didn't know that there was a Buchtel class that graduated from the current school.


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NYF wrote:moon,, u could be right. I know there was a high school in Nelsonville, still standing. The Buchtel HS was on the hill in Buchtel. I thought they built the new high school due to the merger. That is why they called it Nelsonville-York.
I thought the new school opened in August of 1966. Would love to see some old pictures of the Buchtel High School.
I didn't know that there was a Buchtel class that graduated from the current school.
FYI Butchel York graduated classes from the current high school as early as 1964 I do believe.


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91blue14 wrote:Here in Gallia County the Southwestern attendance area extends into Jackson County along US RT 35 and ST RT 279. Has been that way since at least the 60's.
After the consolidation of the 4 county high schools to form River Valley, the Crown City area of Gallia County on the Gallia/Lawrence County line on ST RT 7 became a part of the Fairland district.

i know kids that live in crown city and the fairland bus picks them up every morning. that was a shock to me that they had a choice but we all love options :mrgreen:[/quote]

Not sure they actually have a choice... open enrollment I guess.... pretty sure Crown City is part of the Fairland district now.


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Not sure they actually have a choice... open enrollment I guess.... pretty sure Crown City is part of the Fairland district now.[/quote]

yea they have the choice between south gallia and fairland :mrgreen:


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The SEOAL will be just fine and i hope the JHS admin listens to the community before jumping the gun and starting an internal war that leaves a bitter taste in everyones mouth. There is not alot of support for joining the TVC on either side. We need to take a wait and see approach before calling the conference dead and scrambling to move elsewhere. IF we have to make changes then we need to sit down with Gallia and any other remaining schools and consider all the options.


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ironmen1987 wrote:The SEOAL will be just fine and i hope the JHS admin listens to the community before jumping the gun and starting an internal war that leaves a bitter taste in everyones mouth. There is not alot of support for joining the TVC on either side. We need to take a wait and see approach before calling the conference dead and scrambling to move elsewhere. IF we have to make changes then we need to sit down with Gallia and any other remaining schools and consider all the options.
I agree, Jackson has no reason to do anything currently. This portion of the conversation started with IF Warren leaves like most expect and IF Logan and Chillicothe go elsewear then where does that leave Jackson, GAHS, and Portsmouth? I think if Warren goes the SEOAL looks for a replacement before anyone else does any moving and the remaining schools would only move if forced to. The SEOAL would still be strong with the remaining members and with the number of schools between Logan and Portsmouth I'm sure they could find a school looking for a change.


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If the TVC adds enough bigger schools and splits into 3 then why does it matter? you have a mini SOEAL minus Ironton and Logan and put the mid - levels schools in the middle.


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What day is the RV school board meeting to vote on this?


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Some of you are using terms such as consolidate and dissolve as though they are interchangeable. Also, someone on here keeps saying Nelsonville is the only district in the area that is growing, when in fact they have steadily lost enrollment over the last several years. Just saw the numbers on the state site and they went from 1363 in 07 to 1293 currently. You folks might want to check the facts before you spread the heresy you get down at the Pit Stop? :mrgreen:


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In 1967, the first year after Nelsonville and York consolidated, Nelsonville-York had approximately 2,100 students.

If NY and Trimble consolidated today, there would be a total of around 2,100 students.

The enrollments have always been steadily declining since the coal mines left. The new schools at NY helped to slow down the loss of students.

Keep in mind that in 1967, when Nelsonville and York consolidated that total of 2,100 students was already a steep decline in students from both districts, as the state at that time said Nelsonville and York both had rapidly declining enrollments and that was one of the reasons for the consolidation.

Nelsonville-York today is about the same size enrollment wise that Nelsonville was during the coal boom days. I think the Greyhounds were graduating around 60-70 students per year during the heyday of the coal mines. Keep in mind that many people dropped out of school to work in the mines back then too.

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NYBuckeye96 wrote:In 1967, the first year after Nelsonville and York consolidated, Nelsonville-York had approximately 2,100 students.

If NY and Trimble consolidated today, there would be a total of around 2,100 students.

Yes, all schools in this area are shrinking. No jobs = mass exodus.


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