Is there a chance to start a New League in SE-Ohio (SEOAC)

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Is there a chance to start a New League in SE-Ohio (SEOAC)

Post by Army » Mon Dec 24, 2007 1:07 am

What say you all, whose for it and whose against it :?:

Why.........? :-D

Why not.............? :-D

Pros to be in such a League?

Cons to be in such a League?

Input from SEOAL-South Posters and SOC and OVC Posters. SEOAL North what do you thank? SCOL, MSL, TVC Posters what do you think?

Chillicothe, Ironton, Jackson, Gallia Academy, Portsmouth, Waverly, Wheelersburg and Rock Hill posters what do you think?

Southeastern Ohio Atheletic Conference (SEOAC)

1. Chillicothe Cavailers D3-Ross County
2. Jackson Ironmen D2-Jackson County
3. Waverly Tigers D4 Pike-County
4. Portsmouth Trojans D4-Scioto County
5. Wheelersburg Pirates D5-Scioto County
6. Rock Hill Redmen D4-Lawrence County
7. Ironton Fighting Tigers D4-Lawrence County
8. Gallipolis (Gallia Academy) Blue Devils D3-Gallia County

ARMY :-D



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Post by Old Tom Morris » Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:09 am

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I feel this has possibilities. Just wonder if you could get everyone on board, Portsmouth West could be a wild card for substitution if someone wasn't interested.

I took the liberty of calculating mileage and travel times between all points you listed. I believe I covered everyone, sorry ahead of time if I missed anyone.

Ironton - Chillicothe > 72 miles > 1 hr 25 min
Ironton - Jackson > 53 miles > 1 hr 1 min
Ironton - Waverly > 52 miles > 1 hr 2 min
Ironton - Portsmoouth > 29 miles > 36 min
Ironton - Wheelersburg > 20 miles > 22 min
Ironton - Rock Hill > 9 Miles > 13 min
Ironton - Gallipolis > 43 miles > 54 min
Chillicothe - Jackson > 30 miles > 38 min
Chillicothe - Waverly > 17 miles > 20 min
Chillicothe - Portsmouth > 45 miles > 57 min
Chillicothe - Wheelersburg > 52 miles > 1 hr 4min
Chillicothe - Rock Hill > 69 miles > 1 hr 24 min
Chillicothe - Gallipolis > 61 miles > 1 hr 16 min
Jackson - Waverly > 25 miles > 32 min
Jackson - Portsmouth > 39 miles > 51 min
Jackson - Wheelersburg > 34 miles > 41 min
Jackson - Rock Hill > 35 miles > 51 min
Jackson - Gallipolis > 32 miles > 43 min
Waverly - Portsmouth > 29 miles > 37 min
Waverly - Wheelersburg > 33 miles > 42 min
Waverly - Rock Hill > 50 miles > 1 hr 2 min
Waverly - Gallipolis > 57 miles > 1 hr 10 min
Portsmouth - Wheelersburg > 10 miles > 16 min
Portsmouth - Rock Hill > 27 miles > 36 min
Portsmouth - Gallipolis > 56 miles > 1 hr 18 min
Wheelersburg - Rock Hill > 17 miles > 21 min
Wheelersburg - Gallipolis > 50 miles > 1 hr 6 min
Rock Hill - Gallipolis > 36 miles > 48 min

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Post by Army » Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:29 am

Old Tom Morris wrote:Army

I feel this has possibilities. Just wonder if you could get everyone on board, Portsmouth West could be a wild card for substitution if someone wasn't interested.

I took the liberty of calculating mileage and travel times between all points you listed. I believe I covered everyone, sorry ahead of time if I missed anyone.

Ironton - Chillicothe > 72 miles > 1 hr 25 min
Ironton - Jackson > 53 miles > 1 hr 1 min
Ironton - Waverly > 52 miles > 1 hr 2 min
Ironton - Portsmoouth > 29 miles > 36 min
Ironton - Wheelersburg > 20 miles > 22 min
Ironton - Rock Hill > 9 Miles > 13 min
Ironton - Gallipolis > 43 miles > 54 min
Chillicothe - Jackson > 30 miles > 38 min
Chillicothe - Waverly > 17 miles > 20 min
Chillicothe - Portsmouth > 45 miles > 57 min
Chillicothe - Wheelersburg > 52 miles > 1 hr 4min
Chillicothe - Rock Hill > 69 miles > 1 hr 24 min
Chillicothe - Gallipolis > 61 miles > 1 hr 16 min
Jackson - Waverly > 25 miles > 32 min
Jackson - Portsmouth > 39 miles > 51 min
Jackson - Wheelersburg > 34 miles > 41 min
Jackson - Rock Hill > 35 miles > 51 min
Jackson - Gallipolis > 32 miles > 43 min
Waverly - Portsmouth > 29 miles > 37 min
Waverly - Wheelersburg > 33 miles > 42 min
Waverly - Rock Hill > 50 miles > 1 hr 2 min
Waverly - Gallipolis > 57 miles > 1 hr 10 min
Portsmouth - Wheelersburg > 10 miles > 16 min
Portsmouth - Rock Hill > 27 miles > 36 min
Portsmouth - Gallipolis > 56 miles > 1 hr 18 min
Wheelersburg - Rock Hill > 17 miles > 21 min
Wheelersburg - Gallipolis > 50 miles > 1 hr 6 min
Rock Hill - Gallipolis > 36 miles > 48 min


Old Tom Morris,

Sounds Great... :!:

You see SE-Ohio it could happen. :-D

No more long 3 hour trips to play sports. :-D

I to agree about Portsmouth West D5 too.

If those schools left the SOC II, i.e., Waverly D4, Portsmouth West D5 and Wheelersburg D5 and joined the 5 SEOAL South Schools to form a league, the SOC could still be alive and well with;

1. Oak Hill D5
2. Minford D5
3. Lucasville Valley D5
4. Ottway Northwest D4
5. Portsmouth Notre Dame D6
6. Sciotoville Community (Portsmouth East) D6
7. Franklin Furnace Green D6
8. Willow Wood Symmes Valley D6

Add the Basketball Schools;

9. South Webster D5
10. Glenwood New Boston D6
11. Portsmouth Clay D6
12. Beaver Eastern Pike D6
13. Latham Western Pike D6

ARMY

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Post by awesomepossum » Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:51 am

Keep on dreaming.. wouldn't and won't happen, atleast with Wheelersburg..

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Post by Old Tom Morris » Mon Dec 24, 2007 9:52 am

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One benefit is that the longest drive is in the 1 hr and a half range and for the most part the league is inside of a triangle RT 23 - Rt 35 - Rt 52/7. Those roads are not too terrible. The longer trips for basketball could be worked out for Friday and Saturday evenings. I dare say all sports would have "sensible" travel.

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Post by sports junkie » Mon Dec 24, 2007 10:02 am

2old, ytuio logjfdjkr midhjfjrk iodgfrghsjn oplkisx :lol: :lol: :lol:

Army, I don't know if it would ever fly, but sounds good to me.

This would not be good for Logan, They might have to play schools there own size if everybody left for the New league :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by sports junkie » Mon Dec 24, 2007 10:11 am

2old, what would Logan do if they had to play all Div. 2 or Div. 1 schools every year. I would say the might go 2-8 with there great playoff history :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

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Post by sports junkie » Mon Dec 24, 2007 10:23 am

2old, Logan ducks the competition all year long until the playoffs start, then they have no choice but to play schools there own size and what happens? They get drilled :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Div. 2 wanna bees :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Old Tom Morris » Mon Dec 24, 2007 10:25 am

1: Start out going NORTHEAST on CENTER ST toward S 6TH ST. 0.1 miles Map

2: Turn RIGHT onto S 7TH ST. <0.1 miles Map

3: Turn LEFT onto PARK ST. 0.3 miles Map

4: PARK ST becomes OH-93. 41.9 miles Map

5: Merge onto OH-124 E / OH-32 E toward ATHENS. 6.0 miles Map

6: Take the OH-327 / OH-124 exit- EXIT 17- toward WELLSTON. 0.2 miles Map

7: Turn LEFT onto OH-124 / OH-327. Continue to follow OH-327. 2.5 miles Map

8: OH-327 becomes OH-93. 32.8 miles Map

9: Turn LEFT onto E MAIN ST. <0.1 miles Map

10: End at Logan, OH US Map

Total Est. Time: 2 hours, 3 minutes Total Est. Distance: 84.23 miles

74.7 miles on State Route 93 makes for one of the worst trips out there for any travel.

2old Logan is irrelevent >>>>> when it comes to this discussion, just like they are come playoff time to the rest of the DII schools in Ohio.


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Post by sports junkie » Mon Dec 24, 2007 10:27 am

Now that's FUNNY, But true :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

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Post by sports junkie » Mon Dec 24, 2007 10:44 am

2old, ya your schedule is full of Div. 1 teams, 2 to be exact.
1) Lancaster, who is a decent school, beats Logan easily 31- 7 this year :lol:
2) Pick. North, who is not a good Div. 1 school :oops:

Your right, I'm sorry, Logan's schedule is loaded ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)
Div. 2 wanna bees :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by ohbuckeye2 » Mon Dec 24, 2007 10:59 am

2old wrote:Junkie and Tom,

You need to review Logan's schedule. Logan plays more d-1's than anyone in the league.
Let alone playing D-2's in the league.

I see you and Tom have Joined the Army express to "DUCK Logan". It is too easy to say, but i will:

You guys Quack me up!!!!!!!!!

Tom as far a relevance. i think Ironton should win some games and become relevant again.
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Lets compare Logans record this CENTURY versus Irontons record this CENTURY against teams they have played with a winning % above 500.

---------LOGAN --------IRONTON

D1--------1-10-----------2-1
D2--------3-5 ------------5-5
D3--------7-4 ------------9-6
D4--------3-1 ------------15-8
D5--------1-0 ------------6-1
-----------15-20----------37-21

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Post by ohbuckeye2 » Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:02 am

That would be an awesome league in my opinion.

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Post by BlindWhiteHat » Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:07 pm

A league proposal that has nothing to with Logan and 2old finds a way to get involved. Talk about your most serious case of Tiger Envy to date. You really should get that checked before it gets any worse :lol:

On topic, I think the league is a good idea but I don't see it happening either. I think Rock Hill is happy in the OVC and wouldn't want to leave. I see the same thing being true for Wheelersburg. They dominate the SOC in most all sports and make the football playoffs most years. I don't feel that they have anything to gain by leaving the friendly confines of the SOC.

Of course every team should look into it as it gives them a chance to get away from Logan who is by far the best team in every sport.

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Post by ManitouDan » Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:33 pm

opinions from an outsider -- Ironton is now close to mediocrity, but has a extremely proud great history with long runs in the state playoffs, and will propably be back on top against schools of equal size.

Logan runs rampant over the SEOAL beacuse they are much larger school than MOST , not all, of the competetion. Then when placed against schools with similiar winning records and of equal size in the playoffs they fail miserably .

Both have very solid programs but Ironton has the tradition of deep playoff runs, Logan (at least from what I've read on here) suffers mightly when the 2nd season starts.

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Post by 10mike » Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:47 pm

Like gahs said, the SEOAL isn't going anywhere. Jackson, Logan and Gallia Academy are the only schools who have remained in the league since it's creation. I don't see any of those three schools going anywhere any time soon. Any realistic ideas for the SEOAL should start with the above mentioned teams and go from there.

SEOAL
Jackson
Gallia Academy
Logan

Whoever else wants to come and go can do so, but those three teams will be here!

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Post by Army » Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:57 pm

10mike wrote:Like gahs said, the SEOAL isn't going anywhere. Jackson, Logan and Gallia Academy are the only schools who have remained in the league since it's creation. I don't see any of those three schools going anywhere any time soon. Any realistic ideas for the SEOAL should start with the above mentioned teams and go from there.

SEOAL
Jackson
Gallia Academy
Logan

Whoever else wants to come and go can do so, but those three teams will be here!


That wouldn't be much of a league if most teams left and you all had to play 2 league games and 8 non-league games :?:

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Post by 10mike » Mon Dec 24, 2007 1:07 pm

No poop!

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Post by BlindWhiteHat » Mon Dec 24, 2007 1:58 pm

2old wrote:And if this is not Chieftain Envy explain to me why no one wants to talk about Logan's d-2 comrades. Jackson, Marietta, and Zville.


It's because the posters from Jackson, Marietta and Zanesville have a little class and show it on SEOP. They don't come on here and beat their chests and boast every time their team wins a game. Logan seems to have the only posters from a D2 school in the SEOAL that act as if they are the greatest thing since the '72 Dolphins because they've had a few good years.

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Post by Old Tom Morris » Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:01 pm

darn

I thought they were the 72 Dolphins

I am sure glad BWH has set me straight.

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Post by alabama mike » Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:55 pm

I dont think it will happen as long as current powers that be are in control. Change of any kind takes time and young blood. The idea is not bad, in fact, I kind of like it. The level of play is a definite improvement for everyone.

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Post by BlindWhiteHat » Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:16 pm

2old, you really and truly make no sense. You ask a question, get an answer, then you don't like the answer so it turns into the same old same old; "blah blah blah, everyone sucks but Logan, blah blah blah Logan is great." You can't spell and you can't stick to the topic, what can you do? :lol:

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Post by Old Tom Morris » Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:21 pm

2old

Just because I see a lot of advantages to this new league you think I want to duck Logan. Well sir you are wrong, I have no desire to duck Logan and I venture to say that the team I support will do just fine against Logan in all sports.

This discussion was about what people thought of this as a possible league. It was not about ANYTHING to do with Logan!

You brought Logan up where no one else was discussing them, now who looks like a whiner, its you 2old!

Now to address your questions:

You need to review Logan's schedule. Logan plays more d-1's than anyone in the league.
WHO ELSE SHOULD BE PLAYING DI's? Do you want an award or something for doing something you should be doing?

Let alone playing D-2's in the league.
WHO ELSE SHOULD BE PLAYING DII's? Do you want another award for doing something you should be doing?

Tom as far a relevance. i think Ironton should win some games and become relevant again,
Last time I checked your opinion was not requested or required.

explain to me why no one wants to talk about Logan's d-2 comrades. Jackson, Marietta, and Zville.
Jackson was discussed. The whole discussion centered on possibilities of participants who were within favorable travel distances and that was the purpose of this thread. There was a civil discussion taking place until you barged in with your typical (LOOK AT ME I'M AN IDIOT) Logan is the best crap.


Can you not understand, as far as this discussion goes, NO ONE was talking about your precious Logan or cared to discuss them until you barged in tried to make Logan the topic.

GET A LIFE!

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Post by BlindWhiteHat » Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:27 pm

It's a shame this thread won't get the attention it deserves. It really is a good idea and it would be great to see the possibility explored of a league involving these teams. Instead of good discussion, it will be hijacked by a couple idiots who make this thread, as well as everything on this forum, about Logan.

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Post by Old Tom Morris » Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:30 pm

BWH

I think it was 1 idiot that hijacked the thread.

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