Div III Reg. 11

[X8XOHIOLEGENDX7X]

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Fake News. He has Athens losing to NY

You're gonna get hit with Thunder and Lightning week 10, then Air Maiden will light you up deep.......
It's okay though keep telling yourself your better.
It has to be tough losing to a tiny D6 school.

So your telling me its gonna storm from week 7 vs wellston to week 10?

[Orange and Brown]

Fake News. He has Athens losing to NY

You're gonna get hit with Thunder and Lightning week 10, then Air Maiden will light you up deep.......
It's okay though keep telling yourself your better.
It has to be tough losing to a tiny D6 school.

So your telling me its gonna storm from week 7 vs wellston to week 10?

It's been storming all year!

[X8XOHIOLEGENDX7X]

You're gonna get hit with Thunder and Lightning week 10, then Air Maiden will light you up deep.......
It's okay though keep telling yourself your better.
It has to be tough losing to a tiny D6 school.

So your telling me its gonna storm from week 7 vs wellston to week 10?

It's been storming all year!

I've not seen much is this just a local thing thats getting rained on?

[teach1coach2]

If Tri-Valley wins the next couple weeks, I will do an analysis like this after week 9.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/musking ... tml#p12215

[sapientia et veritas]

It's effectively a two-team region though seeding may have that matchup before week 12. Four of the teams (Marion Franklin, Independence, Bellefontaine, New Philly) with a crappy enough schedule to get a likely home game week 11 will be running clocked by either Hartley or DeSales.

[Dandy Don]

It's effectively a two-team region though seeding may have that matchup before week 12. Four of the teams (Marion Franklin, Independence, Bellefontaine, New Philly) with a crappy enough schedule to get a likely home game week 11 will be running clocked by either Hartley or DeSales.

Well there is truth and wisdom in this one.

[X8XOHIOLEGENDX7X]

It's effectively a two-team region though seeding may have that matchup before week 12. Four of the teams (Marion Franklin, Independence, Bellefontaine, New Philly) with a crappy enough schedule to get a likely home game week 11 will be running clocked by either Hartley or DeSales.

Well there is truth and wisdom in this one.

I agree no matter the seeding if hartley and desales make it. its they're region by a long shot

[X8XOHIOLEGENDX7X]

It's effectively a two-team region though seeding may have that matchup before week 12. Four of the teams (Marion Franklin, Independence, Bellefontaine, New Philly) with a crappy enough schedule to get a likely home game week 11 will be running clocked by either Hartley or DeSales.

Well there is truth and wisdom in this one.

I agree no matter the seeding if hartley and desales make it. its they're region by a long shot

[Bring the Heat]

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to come up with that logic on Desales or Hartley.

[Abe Froman]

It's effectively a two-team region though seeding may have that matchup before week 12. Four of the teams (Marion Franklin, Independence, Bellefontaine, New Philly) with a crappy enough schedule to get a likely home game week 11 will be running clocked by either Hartley or DeSales.

What a bold prediction, man you are way out there on the limb. Whew, you sure you want to gamble like that?

In comes DeSales and Bishop Hartley with a CBP adjustment of 70 kids and 97 kids into a "SE and Central Ohio" region and they are the favorites? No kidding Latin guy.

Athens, Independence, Marion Franklin, Granville, Jackson, etc. all with competitive balance numbers that are no way near 97. Granville at 5, Dover at 7, Independence at 8, Athens and Jackson at around 10. So yeah with those teams sitting with 1/10 of your (Bishop Hartley) CBP numbers for football alone I would say you got a pretty darn good chance at chewing up the competition in Region 11.

97 says a whole lot compared to 9. What is Latin for "stacked deck".

[X8XOHIOLEGENDX7X]

It's effectively a two-team region though seeding may have that matchup before week 12. Four of the teams (Marion Franklin, Independence, Bellefontaine, New Philly) with a crappy enough schedule to get a likely home game week 11 will be running clocked by either Hartley or DeSales.

What a bold prediction, man you are way out there on the limb. Whew, you sure you want to gamble like that?

In comes DeSales and Bishop Hartley with a CBP adjustment of 70 kids and 97 kids into a "SE and Central Ohio" region and they are the favorites? No kidding Latin guy.

Athens, Independence, Marion Franklin, Granville, Jackson, etc. all with competitive balance numbers that are no way near 97. Granville at 5, Dover at 7, Independence at 8, Athens and Jackson at around 10. So yeah with those teams sitting with 1/10 of your (Bishop Hartley) CBP numbers for football alone I would say you got a pretty darn good chance at chewing up the competition in Region 11.

97 says a whole lot compared to 9. What is Latin for "stacked deck".

Are you really an athens and or jackson guy. griping about having to play bigger schools

[Abe Froman]

It's effectively a two-team region though seeding may have that matchup before week 12. Four of the teams (Marion Franklin, Independence, Bellefontaine, New Philly) with a crappy enough schedule to get a likely home game week 11 will be running clocked by either Hartley or DeSales.

What a bold prediction, man you are way out there on the limb. Whew, you sure you want to gamble like that?

In comes DeSales and Bishop Hartley with a CBP adjustment of 70 kids and 97 kids into a "SE and Central Ohio" region and they are the favorites? No kidding Latin guy.

Athens, Independence, Marion Franklin, Granville, Jackson, etc. all with competitive balance numbers that are no way near 97. Granville at 5, Dover at 7, Independence at 8, Athens and Jackson at around 10. So yeah with those teams sitting with 1/10 of your (Bishop Hartley) CBP numbers for football alone I would say you got a pretty darn good chance at chewing up the competition in Region 11.

97 says a whole lot compared to 9. What is Latin for "stacked deck".

Are you really an athens and or jackson guy. griping about having to play bigger schools

No I am a Burg guy, and we played Hartley in the Regional Finals 3 years ago.

Pointing out the CBP differences, which is something you apparently have a hard time understanding. Thought my post was pretty straightforward about that.

[sapientia et veritas]

No I am a Burg guy, and we played Hartley in the Regional Finals 3 years ago.

Pointing out the CBP differences, which is something you apparently have a hard time understanding. Thought my post was pretty straightforward about that.

How did you guys do against that "stacked deck" three years ago? You played them evenly, and physically manhandled two of their all-state players out for the rest of their very shortened season. How did Coldwater do against the stacked deck from Canton that same year? They blew them out. You guys would have destroyed them, too.

97 only means that Hartley needs to get kids from a wider geographical area in order to operate the school. Same as Portsmouth ND or any Catholic school, but lucky enough to be located in a larger metro area full of failing public schools.

That area includes city schools Walnut Ridge (currently 6-0 in II-7), Marion Franklin (6-0 in III-11), Independence (5-0 in III-11) and suburban schools in Reynoldsburg, Gahanna, and Pickerington that are fielding pretty good teams. Hartley clearly isn't fielding any kind of east side all star team.

How did you guys do against Watterson who had a CBP of 72? Running clock.
How would you guys do against Bishop Ready who has a CBP of 50? Running clock.
How would you fare against D-II St Charles who has a CBP of 108 and a two-time state champion coach? Running clock even if you started the JV.

CBP means nothing. Stop making excuses for your team's losses. Your coach doesn't. He just tells the kids to work harder. And they have. Besides, your 25 is the second highest of any public school in your division, so you're stacking your own deck apparently.

[countywide35]

tough division and region.......past, present, and prolly always will be.........

[Abe Froman]

No I am a Burg guy, and we played Hartley in the Regional Finals 3 years ago.

Pointing out the CBP differences, which is something you apparently have a hard time understanding. Thought my post was pretty straightforward about that.

How did you guys do against that "stacked deck" three years ago? You played them evenly, and physically manhandled two of their all-state players out for the rest of their very shortened season. How did Coldwater do against the stacked deck from Canton that same year? They blew them out. You guys would have destroyed them, too.

97 only means that Hartley needs to get kids from a wider geographical area in order to operate the school. Same as Portsmouth ND or any Catholic school, but lucky enough to be located in a larger metro area full of failing public schools.

That area includes city schools Walnut Ridge (currently 6-0 in II-7), Marion Franklin (6-0 in III-11), Independence (5-0 in III-11) and suburban schools in Reynoldsburg, Gahanna, and Pickerington that are fielding pretty good teams. Hartley clearly isn't fielding any kind of east side all star team.

How did you guys do against Watterson who had a CBP of 72? Running clock.
How would you guys do against Bishop Ready who has a CBP of 50? Running clock.
How would you fare against D-II St Charles who has a CBP of 108 and a two-time state champion coach? Running clock even if you started the JV.

CBP means nothing. Stop making excuses for your team's losses. Your coach doesn't. He just tells the kids to work harder. And they have. Besides, your 25 is the second highest of any public school in your division, so you're stacking your own deck apparently.

Missed the premise, almost completely actually. No one is making excuses, especially me, but if you don't think there is an equivalency between the CBP adjustment numbers and where Hartley is at or DeSales then you need to stop making excuses for being naive. Your call that this is a Hartley or DeSales region is an accomplished fact.

How about "fait accompli" Latin guy.

You have an enormous advantage, stop pretending that it is non-existent. It's embarrassing. I don't give a rat's azz, we will play whoever is put in front of us whenever they schedule it and ask no questions. That doesn't negate statistical advantages.

No intention of turning this into a public/private debate. I will hop back over to Region 19.

[sapientia et veritas]

That doesn't negate statistical advantages.

The W/L records of Watterson and St Charles do. I'm guessing you only beat your six R19 opponents by out open enrolling them? Poor Waverly only has a CBP of 8. Not even a fighting chance.

[Raider6309]

#CatholicPrivilege

[X8XOHIOLEGENDX7X]

What a bold prediction, man you are way out there on the limb. Whew, you sure you want to gamble like that?

In comes DeSales and Bishop Hartley with a CBP adjustment of 70 kids and 97 kids into a "SE and Central Ohio" region and they are the favorites? No kidding Latin guy.

Athens, Independence, Marion Franklin, Granville, Jackson, etc. all with competitive balance numbers that are no way near 97. Granville at 5, Dover at 7, Independence at 8, Athens and Jackson at around 10. So yeah with those teams sitting with 1/10 of your (Bishop Hartley) CBP numbers for football alone I would say you got a pretty darn good chance at chewing up the competition in Region 11.

97 says a whole lot compared to 9. What is Latin for "stacked deck".

Are you really an athens and or jackson guy. griping about having to play bigger schools

No I am a Burg guy, and we played Hartley in the Regional Finals 3 years ago.

Pointing out the CBP differences, which is something you apparently have a hard time understanding. Thought my post was pretty straightforward about that.

You are correct man i have a hard ass time understanding it. and im sure its very simple

[Abe Froman]

That doesn't negate statistical advantages.

The W/L records of Watterson and St Charles do. I'm guessing you only beat your six R19 opponents by out open enrolling them? Poor Waverly only has a CBP of 8. Not even a fighting chance.

SE Ohio PUBLIC schools in Region 11, 15, 19 are all within a statistical mean average of plus or minus 10% of each other on Competitive Balance adjustment numbers.

Compare Ready, Hartley, SVSM Hoban, DeSales, Watterson to the mean average and that variance is pretty close to 800%.

Channeling a little Bill Engvall from all of us ole gee shucks fellas down here in the rolling hills of Appalachia - Here's Your Sign - nope no advantage at all.

[X8XOHIOLEGENDX7X]

That doesn't negate statistical advantages.

The W/L records of Watterson and St Charles do. I'm guessing you only beat your six R19 opponents by out open enrolling them? Poor Waverly only has a CBP of 8. Not even a fighting chance.

SE Ohio PUBLIC schools in Region 11, 15, 19 are all within a statistical mean average of plus or minus 10% of each other on Competitive Balance adjustment numbers.

Compare Ready, Hartley, SVSM Hoban, DeSales, Watterson to the mean average and that variance is pretty close to 800%.

Channeling a little Bill Engvall from all of us ole gee shucks fellas down here in the rolling hills of Appalachia - Here's Your Sign - nope no advantage at all.

Ok and when we say competitive balance numbers thats the enrollment correct?