2018 SVC Football Offseason Talk and Outlook

[CavalierAlum05]

i shouldnt have said 'best.' idk much about the league. I do know that Newland and spin the ball and has a cannon. Next level QB for sure.

[Rolltanks]

New land kid can throw the long ball but I don’t think he is the best qb in the league. Westfall southeastern Huntington all have great qbs. Adena and Unioto have young qbs that will be very good also.

[king kong]

Are you sure some of you guys watched SVC football last season? If not, visit www.svcsportszone.com and click on football then stats.

[HighLightReel]

A lot of good Quarterback’s return this year in the league in Newland (PV), Gibson (WF), McCloskey (H), Ruby (SE), Galloway (P) and Sykes (A)... ZT and Unioto both lose big time players in Fisher and Shanton, but Good JV QB’s stepping up in those roles. You have a good mix of experience and non- varsity experience this year. As for last year I wouldn’t go so strict on stats as a the season progressed, especially last 3-4 games the returning QB’s for this upcoming season definitely improved and made big plays and big throws. I’m eager to see what the season is like and hopefully we see some more slinging the ball around after a full off season/ summer of workouts.

[LICKING COUNTY FAN]

2017 Standings
Southeastern 7-0, 11-1
Unioto 6-1, 8-3
Zane Trace 5-2, 7-3
Piketon 4-3, 4-6
Paint Valley 2-5, 3-7
Westfall 2-5, 3-7
Adena 1-6, 2-8
Huntington 1-6, 2-8

2018 Thoughts?

Is this the year that a young Paint Valley team comes of age?
How will the three bigger schools fair this season(Unioto,Zane Trace and Westfall)
Can D-5 Piketon move up ion the conference?
Can Huntington find away to compete?

(Divisions are based on last year.I did not check to see if anyone moved up or down)

[Slappy]

SE will drop off considerably, pretty much a one man show with Ruby left,Ruby right, Ruby up the middle. U and ZT have to be the favorites, if the fastest athlete in the SVC(Ison) plays this season after taking a year off I say PV will be much improved.

[eagles73Taylor]

Piketon returns Jr to be Galloway who threw for over 2,000 yards at 61%. WR Grooms who led league in catches and yards per catch. 4 Sr to be offensive linemen and I believe 8 or so defensive players. The Streaks will need to find that go to back, So to be Little could fill that roll, plus several other kids stepping up. Piketon is poised to have a good season.

[mattash]

SE going to be a playoff team again?

[HighLightReel]

SE going to be a playoff team again?

It will be tough.. losing a lot. It’ll be interesting to see if they keep the same offense.

[mattash]

Huntington close to being a playoff team?

[HighLightReel]

Huntington close to being a playoff team?

Returning a good QB in McCloskey and that’s about it. I still think they are years away from being a playoff team. Hopefully I’m wrong.

[Omega]

I think the SVC needs to look at making some changes, just my opinion but I believe SVC needs to look into adding couple more teams and make it a 10 team league and split it into 2-5 team divisions. They can have 4 divisional games and go cross conference for 2 games giving them 4 open dates to try and get little more quality opponents to try and help in terms of playoff points and getting them ready for divisional play.

I would like to see this happen but I don’t think there is any chance. As a tanks fan I am hoping that the new Chillicothe school helps drop are numbers down or we will be in trouble.

Yeah I don't think it will happen either, seems like so many teams in the SOC, SVC are perfectly content in trying to keep everything status quo. I mean other than teams moving from SOC 1 to 2 when's the last major change that either conference embarked on?? SVC I believe likes the setup because outside of Westfall, who I'm surprised hasn't tried to change conferences to one more local like mid-state, most drives are with what 20-40 min. They're only responsible for getting 3 open dates a year, which is pretty easy.

As to the SVC, if it is not broken, do not fix it. The conference is the most stable in south central / south east Ohio. The biggest issue is competitive balance, as talent levels ebb and flow in small schools. Yet a usually mediocre football school, Southeastern, rose up and won the conference championship last season.

[greygoose]

I would like to see this happen but I don’t think there is any chance. As a tanks fan I am hoping that the new Chillicothe school helps drop are numbers down or we will be in trouble.

Yeah I don't think it will happen either, seems like so many teams in the SOC, SVC are perfectly content in trying to keep everything status quo. I mean other than teams moving from SOC 1 to 2 when's the last major change that either conference embarked on?? SVC I believe likes the setup because outside of Westfall, who I'm surprised hasn't tried to change conferences to one more local like mid-state, most drives are with what 20-40 min. They're only responsible for getting 3 open dates a year, which is pretty easy.

As to the SVC, if it is not broken, do not fix it. The conference is the most stable in south central / south east Ohio. The biggest issue is competitive balance, as talent levels ebb and flow in small schools. Yet a usually mediocre football school, Southeastern, rose up and won the conference championship last season.

Yeah that'll happen in a conference such as SVC. A team that has a decent class come through plus finds the rest of the league down will pull off a conference championship. I mean the SVC as a whole last year was pretty mediocre at best. To try and lay claim that they are the most "stable" I'm guessing you're just meaning in terms of team movement. Because you're not referencing a quality conference in terms of building power programs. There's other conferences just as stable and are far more competitive than the SVC. Like you said if it isn't broke don't fix it. As long as everyone is happy with a team here and there making the playoffs then that's great. Just not how I view a quality league.

[eagles73Taylor]

Yeah I don't think it will happen either, seems like so many teams in the SOC, SVC are perfectly content in trying to keep everything status quo. I mean other than teams moving from SOC 1 to 2 when's the last major change that either conference embarked on?? SVC I believe likes the setup because outside of Westfall, who I'm surprised hasn't tried to change conferences to one more local like mid-state, most drives are with what 20-40 min. They're only responsible for getting 3 open dates a year, which is pretty easy.

As to the SVC, if it is not broken, do not fix it. The conference is the most stable in south central / south east Ohio. The biggest issue is competitive balance, as talent levels ebb and flow in small schools. Yet a usually mediocre football school, Southeastern, rose up and won the conference championship last season.

Yeah that'll happen in a conference such as SVC. A team that has a decent class come through plus finds the rest of the league down will pull off a conference championship. I mean the SVC as a whole last year was pretty mediocre at best. To try and lay claim that they are the most "stable" I'm guessing you're just meaning in terms of team movement. Because you're not referencing a quality conference in terms of building power programs. There's other conferences just as stable and are far more competitive than the SVC. Like you said if it isn't broke don't fix it. As long as everyone is happy with a team here and there making the playoffs then that's great. Just not how I view a quality league.

The Soc II, TVC, OVC, what conference is stable and dominant? The Soc II only has 5 teams, and besides Burg, teams talent fluctuates a lot. Spoke with an Soc coach recently and said finding week 4 and 5 games are a nightmare. Trimble has had a nice run and NY has as well, but with Athens on the other side that conference is lopsided with its 2 divisions. No one in the OVC has been real good lately, Portsmouth and Ironton has history, but nothing recently. The FAC will dissolve in a few short years, Chillicothe will be running around looking for someone else to join.

The SVC isn’t a strong football conference, but it has pairity, a bunch of different teams have won league titles, and a couple have had playoff runs, PV and Westfall. As for other sports, the SVC is very competitive in boys and girls sports, so why break apart a leag7e that hasn’t changed since 1985?

[Kicker.]

As to the SVC, if it is not broken, do not fix it. The conference is the most stable in south central / south east Ohio. The biggest issue is competitive balance, as talent levels ebb and flow in small schools. Yet a usually mediocre football school, Southeastern, rose up and won the conference championship last season.

Yeah that'll happen in a conference such as SVC. A team that has a decent class come through plus finds the rest of the league down will pull off a conference championship. I mean the SVC as a whole last year was pretty mediocre at best. To try and lay claim that they are the most "stable" I'm guessing you're just meaning in terms of team movement. Because you're not referencing a quality conference in terms of building power programs. There's other conferences just as stable and are far more competitive than the SVC. Like you said if it isn't broke don't fix it. As long as everyone is happy with a team here and there making the playoffs then that's great. Just not how I view a quality league.

The Soc II, TVC, OVC, what conference is stable and dominant? The Soc II only has 5 teams, and besides Burg, teams talent fluctuates a lot. Spoke with an Soc coach recently and said finding week 4 and 5 games are a nightmare. Trimble has had a nice run and NY has as well, but with Athens on the other side that conference is lopsided with its 2 divisions. No one in the OVC has been real good lately, Portsmouth and Ironton has history, but nothing recently. The FAC will dissolve in a few short years, Chillicothe will be running around looking for someone else to join.

The SVC isn’t a strong football conference, but it has pairity, a bunch of different teams have won league titles, and a couple have had playoff runs, PV and Westfall. As for other sports, the SVC is very competitive in boys and girls sports, so why break apart a leag7e that hasn’t changed since 1985?

The SOC II has been stable, even if you want to take away Burg, they had 2 teams in Waverly and West also make the playoffs in football this past season, also hasn't had an influx of teams leaving and joining similar to the SVC

[eagles73Taylor]

The Soc II is probably the strongest football league in the area, but, only having 5 teams makes it a non conference scheduling nightmare!

I am not bashing anyone, just pointing out that the Svc knows it isn’t a football juggernaut, but looks at the entire body of work in both boys and girls sports, and can say why change to try and make football better? If a team leaves a conference, nothing stopping them leaving yours!

[greygoose]

As to the SVC, if it is not broken, do not fix it. The conference is the most stable in south central / south east Ohio. The biggest issue is competitive balance, as talent levels ebb and flow in small schools. Yet a usually mediocre football school, Southeastern, rose up and won the conference championship last season.

Yeah that'll happen in a conference such as SVC. A team that has a decent class come through plus finds the rest of the league down will pull off a conference championship. I mean the SVC as a whole last year was pretty mediocre at best. To try and lay claim that they are the most "stable" I'm guessing you're just meaning in terms of team movement. Because you're not referencing a quality conference in terms of building power programs. There's other conferences just as stable and are far more competitive than the SVC. Like you said if it isn't broke don't fix it. As long as everyone is happy with a team here and there making the playoffs then that's great. Just not how I view a quality league.

The Soc II, TVC, OVC, what conference is stable and dominant? The Soc II only has 5 teams, and besides Burg, teams talent fluctuates a lot. Spoke with an Soc coach recently and said finding week 4 and 5 games are a nightmare. Trimble has had a nice run and NY has as well, but with Athens on the other side that conference is lopsided with its 2 divisions. No one in the OVC has been real good lately, Portsmouth and Ironton has history, but nothing recently. The FAC will dissolve in a few short years, Chillicothe will be running around looking for someone else to join.

The SVC isn’t a strong football conference, but it has pairity, a bunch of different teams have won league titles, and a couple have had playoff runs, PV and Westfall. As for other sports, the SVC is very competitive in boys and girls sports, so why break apart a leag7e that hasn’t changed since 1985?

When did dominate get said?? It didn't, you speaking to a coach from the SOC and saying week 4 and 5 are nightmares to try and schedule isn't earth shattering news. Everyone has known that for quite sometime now, if you read my earlier post that was quoted as well I said the SVC and SOC needed to make changes. SOC II in particular because over the years they've had the chance to accept teams and make that a 6-7 team conference but have turned them away. So the scheduling nightmare they have, which is why I said it, is on them. As far as the SVC goes I'm sorry but playing 7 conference games is a bit over the top. 2017 there was 5 teams below .500, so the 3 teams above .500 simply got 5 of their wins against below .500 teams that were in their conference, that doesn't get you ready for the playoffs or even show you what type of program you truly have or are building. FAC never mentioned them because I've long said it was a conference that won't last and it was just formed so to say it's stable is way off base. Portsmouth and Ironton haven't been in the OVC long enough to lay claim to anything really. Although I think Coal Grove made a good run last year given their history. At least that conference had half the teams at .500 or better and all but 1 with 4 wins. TVC, Athens and NY are on the same side, and Trimble has been consistent and let's not forget Waterford as well, 2 other teams from that side also went 7-3 with Southern and Miller. Considering the location of some of the SVC schools and the location of Mid-State Buckeye Conference I would lump them in there as far as very stable and more competitive. Not saying the SVC should separate it's current membership but I think they should look into adding a couple more teams, make it 2-5 team conferences. If they choose to play cross conference to fill dates that's on them. In order to become more competitive I just don't see playing 5 of your 7 conference games against sub .500 teams is going to get it done nor get them ready come week 11 should any of them make it. Also another reason why when a team makes it they're sitting at the #7/8 seed a lot of the time. I think not having a change since 1985 is exactly why, lol. Although who knows, in order to get a couple more teams to enter you have to have someone that wants to enter the SVC and that simply might not be the case. For a team like Westfall who is farthest out I think them leaving and mid-state league would be a good idea, in terms of a geographical stand point at least.

[greygoose]

The Soc II is probably the strongest football league in the area, but, only having 5 teams makes it a non conference scheduling nightmare!

I am not bashing anyone, just pointing out that the Svc knows it isn’t a football juggernaut, but looks at the entire body of work in both boys and girls sports, and can say why change to try and make football better? If a team leaves a conference, nothing stopping them leaving yours!

You are exactly correct, with SOC II, that's why I would've loved for them to let Portsmouth in on any of the times they applied but they didn't. As far as size goes a Unioto would fit good but from a football standpoint I'm not sure how well they'd compete, especially given Waverly has handled them fairly easy and that was with Unioto having quality teams. They'd be another team I would think wouldn't be a bad fit overall though all sports considered. No no one is bashing any conference simply giving our opinions and that's all it is an opinion. We all know what that's good for,

[Kicker.]

The Soc II is probably the strongest football league in the area, but, only having 5 teams makes it a non conference scheduling nightmare!

I am not bashing anyone, just pointing out that the Svc knows it isn’t a football juggernaut, but looks at the entire body of work in both boys and girls sports, and can say why change to try and make football better? If a team leaves a conference, nothing stopping them leaving yours!

Always wondered why Portsmouth never joined the SOC II, and I've heard the things of Waverly wanting in the SVC and Southeastern has always prevented them from joining

You are exactly correct, with SOC II, that's why I would've loved for them to let Portsmouth in on any of the times they applied but they didn't. As far as size goes a Unioto would fit good but from a football standpoint I'm not sure how well they'd compete, especially given Waverly has handled them fairly easy and that was with Unioto having quality teams. They'd be another team I would think wouldn't be a bad fit overall though all sports considered. No no one is bashing any conference simply giving our opinions and that's all it is an opinion. We all know what that's good for,

[eagles73Taylor]

The Soc II is probably the strongest football league in the area, but, only having 5 teams makes it a non conference scheduling nightmare!

I am not bashing anyone, just pointing out that the Svc knows it isn’t a football juggernaut, but looks at the entire body of work in both boys and girls sports, and can say why change to try and make football better? If a team leaves a conference, nothing stopping them leaving yours!

You are exactly correct, with SOC II, that's why I would've loved for them to let Portsmouth in on any of the times they applied but they didn't. As far as size goes a Unioto would fit good but from a football standpoint I'm not sure how well they'd compete, especially given Waverly has handled them fairly easy and that was with Unioto having quality teams. They'd be another team I would think wouldn't be a bad fit overall though all sports considered. No no one is bashing any conference simply giving our opinions and that's all it is an opinion. We all know what that's good for,

Portsmouth balked at the SOC years ago when they were in their prime, small city team, good industry and economy. Portsmouth turned its nose up at the SOC for years. Now, they have fallen on hard times, plants closed, businesses moving out, kids moving to county schools, and now they say, why not let us in? SOC member schools have a long memory! lol