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BurgGrad6 wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:32 am
Oak wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:18 am
star wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:03 am Burg and the rest doesn't matter
That's a great attitude

Wheelersburg returns skill on offense, but looses basically all the line and all the defense. They won't be near as good next year.
Haha always negative about burg. Haters gonna hate. I guarantee burg smashes through the soc. They have a legit shot to make it back to canton next year!!
It’s awful funny we haven’t heard a peep outta Oak for most of the year. Then as soon as the season is over he’s on here ready to go at Wheelersburg again. If Wheelersburg doesn’t win a title next year I guarantee he’s gonna be one of the first ones on here to rub it in. This guy can’t stand the success Wheelersburg has had in the past present and future. Oak needs to stay under his bridge where he has been hiding all season long.


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Oak wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:42 am
Sport Fan wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:37 am
Oak wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:18 am

That's a great attitude

Wheelersburg returns skill on offense, but looses basically all the line and all the defense. They won't be near as good next year.

LOL, How many times do you hear this... This Year's Burg Team was the most deepest Team that I have ever seen on a D5 High School .... They had many kids not starting that would have started for most Teams.. They will be fine next year, 40 straight wins and a state championship builds confidence and an expectations to win wach game.
We heard this all year. How deep they were. How many played the last 2 games or any of the games until the score got out of hand? Very few. Several played both ways and most of the players were seniors. Try to convince yourself all you want, but they take a huge step back next year
Burg had one offensive lineman played two ways (#71), Burg skill kids were #30 (Jr), #32 (Sr), #20 (Jr), #29 (So), #10 (Sr), #13 (Sr), #6 (So), #4 (Sr), #12 (Sr) #16 (Jr). These skill guys are not including the Jr QB and #2 (Jr) ... That is 10 skill positions that played in State game, 1 did not due to injury.

Here are the new starters Burg had on D this year that did not start 2016. #52 end (Sr), #71 DT (Sr), #29 FS (So), #30 SS (Jr), #6 SS (S0), #10 (Sr) and we have #60 returning LB, so yea I think they will reload .....
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BondRoad Bandit wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:21 pm
TheNest20 wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:52 am I think people are underestimating the falcons next year. Hopefully the kids that need to be playing will play and it won't just be the parents of seniors deciding who plays. I am told that the seniors and juniors to be love to play together and actually love football. Everybody seems to forget that if certain thing go the falcons way last year they are 6-4. I'm not saying they will contend for the SOC, i'm just saying that from what i'm hearing, the kids that will be leading the team next year are tired of losing
Only kid I think should get a real shot that didn't would be the freshman that will be a sophomore this coming season
Falcons will return their QB, who had a solid year, and their best defensive player Lindamood. The O-Line will be a big question mark once again, but I can see them competing for a 3rd place finish in the SOC


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I would think Valley would start to show some more improvement this year. When is the last time they had 3 losing seasons in a row? I would imagine it was the early 90's.


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Sport Fan wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:45 pm
Oak wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:42 am
Sport Fan wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:37 am


LOL, How many times do you hear this... This Year's Burg Team was the most deepest Team that I have ever seen on a D5 High School .... They had many kids not starting that would have started for most Teams.. They will be fine next year, 40 straight wins and a state championship builds confidence and an expectations to win wach game.
We heard this all year. How deep they were. How many played the last 2 games or any of the games until the score got out of hand? Very few. Several played both ways and most of the players were seniors. Try to convince yourself all you want, but they take a huge step back next year
Burg had one offensive lineman played two ways (#71), Burg skill kids were #30 (Jr), #32 (Sr), #20 (Jr), #29 (So), #10 (Sr), #13 (Sr), #6 (So), #4 (Sr), #12 (Sr) #16 (Jr). These skill guys are not including the Jr QB and #2 (Jr) ... That is 10 skill positions that played in State game, 1 did not due to injury.

Here are the new starters Burg had on D this year that did not start 2016. #52 end (Sr), #71 DT (Sr), #29 FS (So), #30 SS (Jr), #6 SS (S0), #10 (Sr) and we have #60 returning LB, so yea I think they will reload .....
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I think the burg fans have heard every offseason for years that they lost to much and won’t be as good. The burg will field a very talented team next year. Skill position wise they will be very hard for teams to matchup with. May see a little smaller quicker D-line. I have confidence the burg coaches will put a solid o-line on the feild.


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Portsmouth98 wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:42 pm I would think Valley would start to show some more improvement this year. When is the last time they had 3 losing seasons in a row? I would imagine it was the early 90's.
Valley since 2000

2000—5-5
2001—8-2
2002—8-2
2003—8-2
2004—7-3
2005—11-2

Enter SOC2

2006—5-5
2007—4-6
2008—5-5
2009—7-3
2010—8-2
2011—12-1. SOC2 champs
2012—12-1. SOC2 champs
2013—11-1. SOC2 champs
2014—11-3
2015—9-2
2016—1-9
2017—3-7


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The outlook for SOC II in 2018 is similar to 2017, let's face it. Burg, then West should be very good also. Out of conference schedule for Burg is the toughest yet.

Burg success is sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy now, everyone has bought in, that momentum is ridiculously hard to duplicate or start, but once you have it you have it. Very similar to a Coldwater, Marion Local, Hartley type of mentality now among players and staff and community. Kids will respond to the expectations I think.


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Abe Froman wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:04 am The outlook for SOC II in 2018 is similar to 2017, let's face it. Burg, then West should be very good also. Out of conference schedule for Burg is the toughest yet.

Burg success is sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy now, everyone has bought in, that momentum is ridiculously hard to duplicate or start, but once you have it you have it. Very similar to a Coldwater, Marion Local, Hartley type of mentality now among players and staff and community. Kids will respond to the expectations I think.
Yep they say it takes money to make money. Well in sports it takes success to make success, kids want to play for ball clubs that win. Look no farther than the number of kids these small schools are producing on their team. Yeah you'll graduate a really good class and maybe the class below isn't quite as good but you know what the they'll get you 8-10 wins because they've been around that success and know what it takes to achieve it. Now Waverly has had some success last couple years but they've had some pretty talented players come through, so let's see what happens with their program this year. Do they reload and end up with 7 wins or better which would be good considering what skilled players they're replacing. Or does it take time for those players to figure things out and they end up 5-5 ball club because of their schedule.

Said it in an earlier post but I honestly believe not really next year but I think the 2019 season you could see one of the most talented SOC II divisions from top to bottom then we've seen in quite a while. If that happens with players I've seen and know that's coming up that could hold serve for the SOC II for at least a couple 2-3 years in terms of parity within the league.


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Have to believe the SOC 2 is Burgs to lose next year and the year after next, and the year after that, and well you get the point.


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Osu fan wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:12 pm Have to believe the SOC 2 is Burgs to lose next year and the year after next, and the year after that, and well you get the point.
I have to agree with u. With the number of gold balls the burg have won I'd have to say they pretty much are a fav every yr no matter how much talent they have.

I do however believe that next yr imo will be the same with wk 10 between burg and west at the rock will decide the gold ball but in 2019 I think it might be a lil more evenly matched


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1. Burg
2. West
3. Minford
4. Waverly
5. Valley


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I really don't understand what happened to Valley. They were so strong and consistently good for years. I get that Darren gave that one class all the playing time so there wasn't much development for the next class, but the cupboard shouldn't be this empty. The drop off is shocking to me. Would like to see them return to prominence again.


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Otto wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:46 pm I really don't understand what happened to Valley. They were so strong and consistently good for years. I get that Darren gave that one class all the playing time so there wasn't much development for the next class, but the cupboard shouldn't be this empty. The drop off is shocking to me. Would like to see them return to prominence again.
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UPDATED 1/10/2018

LUCASVILLE VALLEY
24-Aug-18 H PORTSMOUTH
31-Aug-18 H COAL GROVE DAWSON-BRYANT
7-Sep-18 A PIKETON
14-Sep-18
21-Sep-18
28-Sep-18 H WAVERLY
5-Oct-18 A PORTSMOUTH WEST
12-Oct-18 H BELPRE
19-Oct-18 A WHEELERSBURG
26-Oct-18 H MINFORD

MINFORD
24-Aug-18 A IRONTON ROCK HILL
31-Aug-18 H OAK HILL
7-Sep-18 H NELSONVILLE-YORK
14-Sep-18 A MCDERMOTT NORTHWEST
21-Sep-18 A WILLIAMSBURG
28-Sep-18 H PORTSMOUTH WEST
5-Oct-18 A MCARTHUR VINTON COUNTY
12-Oct-18 A WHEELERSBURG
19-Oct-18 H WAVERLY
26-Oct-18 A LUCASVILLE VALLEY

PORTSMOUTH WEST
24-Aug-18 A SOUTH POINT
31-Aug-18 A PORTSMOUTH
7-Sep-18 H COAL GROVE DAWSON-BRYANT
14-Sep-18 H WELLSTON
21-Sep-18 H RACELAND
28-Sep-18 A MINFORD
5-Oct-18 H LUCASVILLE VALLEY
12-Oct-18 A WAVERLY
19-Oct-18
26-Oct-18 H WHEELERSBURG

WAVERLY
24-Aug-18 A PIKETON
31-Aug-18 H CHILLICOTHE ZANE TRACE
7-Sep-18 A CHILLICOTHE UNIOTO
14-Sep-18 H PROCTORVILLE FAIRLAND
21-Sep-18 H NELSONVILLE-YORK
28-Sep-18 A LUCASVILLE VALLEY
5-Oct-18 H WHEELERSBURG
12-Oct-18 H PORTSMOUTH WEST
19-Oct-18 A MINFORD
26-Oct-18

WHEELERSBURG
24-Aug-18 H IRONTON
31-Aug-18 A COLUMBUS BISHOP HARTLEY
7-Sep-18 H HEATH
14-Sep-18 A COLUMBUS BISHOP WATERSON
21-Sep-18 H JACKSON
28-Sep-18 A OAK HILL, OH
5-Oct-18 A WAVERLY
12-Oct-18 H MINFORD
19-Oct-18 H LUCASVILLE VALLEY
26-Oct-18 A PORTSMOUTH WEST
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very nice schedule by the burg.
that's the way you build programs.


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JTEK wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:14 pm
Otto wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:46 pm I really don't understand what happened to Valley. They were so strong and consistently good for years. I get that Darren gave that one class all the playing time so there wasn't much development for the next class, but the cupboard shouldn't be this empty. The drop off is shocking to me. Would like to see them return to prominence again.
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Exactly they just don’t have the talent that they had in the past they do have a lot of talent coming up and will be back it’s just going to take awhile.


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greygoose wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:03 pm
Abe Froman wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:04 am The outlook for SOC II in 2018 is similar to 2017, let's face it. Burg, then West should be very good also. Out of conference schedule for Burg is the toughest yet.

Burg success is sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy now, everyone has bought in, that momentum is ridiculously hard to duplicate or start, but once you have it you have it. Very similar to a Coldwater, Marion Local, Hartley type of mentality now among players and staff and community. Kids will respond to the expectations I think.
Yep they say it takes money to make money. Well in sports it takes success to make success, kids want to play for ball clubs that win. Look no farther than the number of kids these small schools are producing on their team. Yeah you'll graduate a really good class and maybe the class below isn't quite as good but you know what the they'll get you 8-10 wins because they've been around that success and know what it takes to achieve it. Now Waverly has had some success last couple years but they've had some pretty talented players come through, so let's see what happens with their program this year. Do they reload and end up with 7 wins or better which would be good considering what skilled players they're replacing. Or does it take time for those players to figure things out and they end up 5-5 ball club because of their schedule.

Said it in an earlier post but I honestly believe not really next year but I think the 2019 season you could see one of the most talented SOC II divisions from top to bottom then we've seen in quite a while. If that happens with players I've seen and know that's coming up that could hold serve for the SOC II for at least a couple 2-3 years in terms of parity within the league.

Waverly will be just fine. The Tigers started 2 freshmen for a bunch of the season. Throw in the sophomores and jrs who started , the Tigers bring back a lot of experience. The question for the Tigers is gonna be the losses at QB and lines. Crabtree has revamped his entire program from pee wee to Jr High and it is starting to show.


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Izladoom wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:03 pm
JTEK wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:14 pm
Otto wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:46 pm I really don't understand what happened to Valley. They were so strong and consistently good for years. I get that Darren gave that one class all the playing time so there wasn't much development for the next class, but the cupboard shouldn't be this empty. The drop off is shocking to me. Would like to see them return to prominence again.
Doesn’t have the jimmys and joes to compete


Exactly they just don’t have the talent that they had in the past they do have a lot of talent coming up and will be back it’s just going to take awhile.
Not trying to be a smart_ss, but where is all this talent at.
I know the 7th grade has some talent.


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Sports-nut wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:30 pm
greygoose wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:03 pm
Abe Froman wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:04 am The outlook for SOC II in 2018 is similar to 2017, let's face it. Burg, then West should be very good also. Out of conference schedule for Burg is the toughest yet.

Burg success is sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy now, everyone has bought in, that momentum is ridiculously hard to duplicate or start, but once you have it you have it. Very similar to a Coldwater, Marion Local, Hartley type of mentality now among players and staff and community. Kids will respond to the expectations I think.
Yep they say it takes money to make money. Well in sports it takes success to make success, kids want to play for ball clubs that win. Look no farther than the number of kids these small schools are producing on their team. Yeah you'll graduate a really good class and maybe the class below isn't quite as good but you know what the they'll get you 8-10 wins because they've been around that success and know what it takes to achieve it. Now Waverly has had some success last couple years but they've had some pretty talented players come through, so let's see what happens with their program this year. Do they reload and end up with 7 wins or better which would be good considering what skilled players they're replacing. Or does it take time for those players to figure things out and they end up 5-5 ball club because of their schedule.

Said it in an earlier post but I honestly believe not really next year but I think the 2019 season you could see one of the most talented SOC II divisions from top to bottom then we've seen in quite a while. If that happens with players I've seen and know that's coming up that could hold serve for the SOC II for at least a couple 2-3 years in terms of parity within the league.

Waverly will be just fine. The Tigers started 2 freshmen for a bunch of the season. Throw in the sophomores and jrs who started , the Tigers bring back a lot of experience. The question for the Tigers is gonna be the losses at QB and lines. Crabtree has revamped his entire program from pee wee to Jr High and it is starting to show.
Guess it depends on what your definition of fine is. If it's 4-6 wins probably right they will be just fine. I stated will they reload is going to be the question. Yes, they had couple freshman starting in the secondary. I believe they have Booker back, think he was only a junior but how does he return after that injury hard to tell. Let's just analyze your statement for a second, the QB was what 2-3 year starter going to be replaced by a sophomore, lost 20+ touch TB in Kritz, lost what 2 Wrs who made the plays for them, and you just stated losses on the lines, not sure how many that is. However, that is HUGE to just willy nilly say....eh they'll be fine is a reach, unless your definition of fine is 4/5 win season then yeah you're probably right. I like what Crabtree has done and where it could be headed but the 2018 is a season where we find out does Waverly reload and still manage 7-8 wins or do they go through a growing year of 4-5 wins. For that I think time will tell, they've got some playmakers in the lower ranks including Shanks with the big arm but will it come together for them. We'll find out.


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