It’s awful funny we haven’t heard a peep outta Oak for most of the year. Then as soon as the season is over he’s on here ready to go at Wheelersburg again. If Wheelersburg doesn’t win a title next year I guarantee he’s gonna be one of the first ones on here to rub it in. This guy can’t stand the success Wheelersburg has had in the past present and future. Oak needs to stay under his bridge where he has been hiding all season long.
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Burg had one offensive lineman played two ways (#71), Burg skill kids were #30 (Jr), #32 (Sr), #20 (Jr), #29 (So), #10 (Sr), #13 (Sr), #6 (So), #4 (Sr), #12 (Sr) #16 (Jr). These skill guys are not including the Jr QB and #2 (Jr) ... That is 10 skill positions that played in State game, 1 did not due to injury.Oak wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:42 amWe heard this all year. How deep they were. How many played the last 2 games or any of the games until the score got out of hand? Very few. Several played both ways and most of the players were seniors. Try to convince yourself all you want, but they take a huge step back next yearSport Fan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:37 am
LOL, How many times do you hear this... This Year's Burg Team was the most deepest Team that I have ever seen on a D5 High School .... They had many kids not starting that would have started for most Teams.. They will be fine next year, 40 straight wins and a state championship builds confidence and an expectations to win wach game.
Here are the new starters Burg had on D this year that did not start 2016. #52 end (Sr), #71 DT (Sr), #29 FS (So), #30 SS (Jr), #6 SS (S0), #10 (Sr) and we have #60 returning LB, so yea I think they will reload .....
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Falcons will return their QB, who had a solid year, and their best defensive player Lindamood. The O-Line will be a big question mark once again, but I can see them competing for a 3rd place finish in the SOCBondRoad Bandit wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:21 pmOnly kid I think should get a real shot that didn't would be the freshman that will be a sophomore this coming seasonTheNest20 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:52 am I think people are underestimating the falcons next year. Hopefully the kids that need to be playing will play and it won't just be the parents of seniors deciding who plays. I am told that the seniors and juniors to be love to play together and actually love football. Everybody seems to forget that if certain thing go the falcons way last year they are 6-4. I'm not saying they will contend for the SOC, i'm just saying that from what i'm hearing, the kids that will be leading the team next year are tired of losing
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I would think Valley would start to show some more improvement this year. When is the last time they had 3 losing seasons in a row? I would imagine it was the early 90's.
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If all the cards play out right, Burg will be unstoppable next year!Sport Fan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:45 pmBurg had one offensive lineman played two ways (#71), Burg skill kids were #30 (Jr), #32 (Sr), #20 (Jr), #29 (So), #10 (Sr), #13 (Sr), #6 (So), #4 (Sr), #12 (Sr) #16 (Jr). These skill guys are not including the Jr QB and #2 (Jr) ... That is 10 skill positions that played in State game, 1 did not due to injury.Oak wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:42 amWe heard this all year. How deep they were. How many played the last 2 games or any of the games until the score got out of hand? Very few. Several played both ways and most of the players were seniors. Try to convince yourself all you want, but they take a huge step back next yearSport Fan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:37 am
LOL, How many times do you hear this... This Year's Burg Team was the most deepest Team that I have ever seen on a D5 High School .... They had many kids not starting that would have started for most Teams.. They will be fine next year, 40 straight wins and a state championship builds confidence and an expectations to win wach game.
Here are the new starters Burg had on D this year that did not start 2016. #52 end (Sr), #71 DT (Sr), #29 FS (So), #30 SS (Jr), #6 SS (S0), #10 (Sr) and we have #60 returning LB, so yea I think they will reload .....
Re: 2018 SOC 2 OUTLOOK?
I think the burg fans have heard every offseason for years that they lost to much and won’t be as good. The burg will field a very talented team next year. Skill position wise they will be very hard for teams to matchup with. May see a little smaller quicker D-line. I have confidence the burg coaches will put a solid o-line on the feild.
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Valley since 2000Portsmouth98 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:42 pm I would think Valley would start to show some more improvement this year. When is the last time they had 3 losing seasons in a row? I would imagine it was the early 90's.
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The outlook for SOC II in 2018 is similar to 2017, let's face it. Burg, then West should be very good also. Out of conference schedule for Burg is the toughest yet.
Burg success is sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy now, everyone has bought in, that momentum is ridiculously hard to duplicate or start, but once you have it you have it. Very similar to a Coldwater, Marion Local, Hartley type of mentality now among players and staff and community. Kids will respond to the expectations I think.
Burg success is sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy now, everyone has bought in, that momentum is ridiculously hard to duplicate or start, but once you have it you have it. Very similar to a Coldwater, Marion Local, Hartley type of mentality now among players and staff and community. Kids will respond to the expectations I think.
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Yep they say it takes money to make money. Well in sports it takes success to make success, kids want to play for ball clubs that win. Look no farther than the number of kids these small schools are producing on their team. Yeah you'll graduate a really good class and maybe the class below isn't quite as good but you know what the they'll get you 8-10 wins because they've been around that success and know what it takes to achieve it. Now Waverly has had some success last couple years but they've had some pretty talented players come through, so let's see what happens with their program this year. Do they reload and end up with 7 wins or better which would be good considering what skilled players they're replacing. Or does it take time for those players to figure things out and they end up 5-5 ball club because of their schedule.Abe Froman wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:04 am The outlook for SOC II in 2018 is similar to 2017, let's face it. Burg, then West should be very good also. Out of conference schedule for Burg is the toughest yet.
Burg success is sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy now, everyone has bought in, that momentum is ridiculously hard to duplicate or start, but once you have it you have it. Very similar to a Coldwater, Marion Local, Hartley type of mentality now among players and staff and community. Kids will respond to the expectations I think.
Said it in an earlier post but I honestly believe not really next year but I think the 2019 season you could see one of the most talented SOC II divisions from top to bottom then we've seen in quite a while. If that happens with players I've seen and know that's coming up that could hold serve for the SOC II for at least a couple 2-3 years in terms of parity within the league.
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Have to believe the SOC 2 is Burgs to lose next year and the year after next, and the year after that, and well you get the point.
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Re: 2018 SOC 2 OUTLOOK?
I have to agree with u. With the number of gold balls the burg have won I'd have to say they pretty much are a fav every yr no matter how much talent they have.
I do however believe that next yr imo will be the same with wk 10 between burg and west at the rock will decide the gold ball but in 2019 I think it might be a lil more evenly matched
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I really don't understand what happened to Valley. They were so strong and consistently good for years. I get that Darren gave that one class all the playing time so there wasn't much development for the next class, but the cupboard shouldn't be this empty. The drop off is shocking to me. Would like to see them return to prominence again.
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Doesn’t have the jimmys and joes to competeOtto wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:46 pm I really don't understand what happened to Valley. They were so strong and consistently good for years. I get that Darren gave that one class all the playing time so there wasn't much development for the next class, but the cupboard shouldn't be this empty. The drop off is shocking to me. Would like to see them return to prominence again.
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very nice schedule by the burg.
that's the way you build programs.
that's the way you build programs.
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JTEK wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:14 pmDoesn’t have the jimmys and joes to competeOtto wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:46 pm I really don't understand what happened to Valley. They were so strong and consistently good for years. I get that Darren gave that one class all the playing time so there wasn't much development for the next class, but the cupboard shouldn't be this empty. The drop off is shocking to me. Would like to see them return to prominence again.
Exactly they just don’t have the talent that they had in the past they do have a lot of talent coming up and will be back it’s just going to take awhile.
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greygoose wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:03 pmYep they say it takes money to make money. Well in sports it takes success to make success, kids want to play for ball clubs that win. Look no farther than the number of kids these small schools are producing on their team. Yeah you'll graduate a really good class and maybe the class below isn't quite as good but you know what the they'll get you 8-10 wins because they've been around that success and know what it takes to achieve it. Now Waverly has had some success last couple years but they've had some pretty talented players come through, so let's see what happens with their program this year. Do they reload and end up with 7 wins or better which would be good considering what skilled players they're replacing. Or does it take time for those players to figure things out and they end up 5-5 ball club because of their schedule.Abe Froman wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:04 am The outlook for SOC II in 2018 is similar to 2017, let's face it. Burg, then West should be very good also. Out of conference schedule for Burg is the toughest yet.
Burg success is sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy now, everyone has bought in, that momentum is ridiculously hard to duplicate or start, but once you have it you have it. Very similar to a Coldwater, Marion Local, Hartley type of mentality now among players and staff and community. Kids will respond to the expectations I think.
Said it in an earlier post but I honestly believe not really next year but I think the 2019 season you could see one of the most talented SOC II divisions from top to bottom then we've seen in quite a while. If that happens with players I've seen and know that's coming up that could hold serve for the SOC II for at least a couple 2-3 years in terms of parity within the league.
Waverly will be just fine. The Tigers started 2 freshmen for a bunch of the season. Throw in the sophomores and jrs who started , the Tigers bring back a lot of experience. The question for the Tigers is gonna be the losses at QB and lines. Crabtree has revamped his entire program from pee wee to Jr High and it is starting to show.
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Not trying to be a smart_ss, but where is all this talent at.Izladoom wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:03 pmJTEK wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:14 pmDoesn’t have the jimmys and joes to competeOtto wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:46 pm I really don't understand what happened to Valley. They were so strong and consistently good for years. I get that Darren gave that one class all the playing time so there wasn't much development for the next class, but the cupboard shouldn't be this empty. The drop off is shocking to me. Would like to see them return to prominence again.
Exactly they just don’t have the talent that they had in the past they do have a lot of talent coming up and will be back it’s just going to take awhile.
I know the 7th grade has some talent.
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Guess it depends on what your definition of fine is. If it's 4-6 wins probably right they will be just fine. I stated will they reload is going to be the question. Yes, they had couple freshman starting in the secondary. I believe they have Booker back, think he was only a junior but how does he return after that injury hard to tell. Let's just analyze your statement for a second, the QB was what 2-3 year starter going to be replaced by a sophomore, lost 20+ touch TB in Kritz, lost what 2 Wrs who made the plays for them, and you just stated losses on the lines, not sure how many that is. However, that is HUGE to just willy nilly say....eh they'll be fine is a reach, unless your definition of fine is 4/5 win season then yeah you're probably right. I like what Crabtree has done and where it could be headed but the 2018 is a season where we find out does Waverly reload and still manage 7-8 wins or do they go through a growing year of 4-5 wins. For that I think time will tell, they've got some playmakers in the lower ranks including Shanks with the big arm but will it come together for them. We'll find out.Sports-nut wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:30 pmgreygoose wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:03 pmYep they say it takes money to make money. Well in sports it takes success to make success, kids want to play for ball clubs that win. Look no farther than the number of kids these small schools are producing on their team. Yeah you'll graduate a really good class and maybe the class below isn't quite as good but you know what the they'll get you 8-10 wins because they've been around that success and know what it takes to achieve it. Now Waverly has had some success last couple years but they've had some pretty talented players come through, so let's see what happens with their program this year. Do they reload and end up with 7 wins or better which would be good considering what skilled players they're replacing. Or does it take time for those players to figure things out and they end up 5-5 ball club because of their schedule.Abe Froman wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:04 am The outlook for SOC II in 2018 is similar to 2017, let's face it. Burg, then West should be very good also. Out of conference schedule for Burg is the toughest yet.
Burg success is sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy now, everyone has bought in, that momentum is ridiculously hard to duplicate or start, but once you have it you have it. Very similar to a Coldwater, Marion Local, Hartley type of mentality now among players and staff and community. Kids will respond to the expectations I think.
Said it in an earlier post but I honestly believe not really next year but I think the 2019 season you could see one of the most talented SOC II divisions from top to bottom then we've seen in quite a while. If that happens with players I've seen and know that's coming up that could hold serve for the SOC II for at least a couple 2-3 years in terms of parity within the league.
Waverly will be just fine. The Tigers started 2 freshmen for a bunch of the season. Throw in the sophomores and jrs who started , the Tigers bring back a lot of experience. The question for the Tigers is gonna be the losses at QB and lines. Crabtree has revamped his entire program from pee wee to Jr High and it is starting to show.