2018 SOC 2 Football Offseason Talk and Outlook

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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by scott1297 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:20 am

Oak wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:13 am
bleed_blue wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:34 am
Seabee_0586 wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:45 pm
Count the boys that live in franklin furnace township that go to burg
And count how many of those kids have gone to Wheelersburg well before hey started playing pee wee. As it has been stated only 2 kids that played on this years team came after Jr High.
What does it matter when they came? Basically a quarter of Wheelersburg's football roster is open enrollment
It matters a ton because how in the heck are you gonna know if any of those boys are even gonna play football or be any good at that young of an age your talking 10 or 11 or 12 yr olds or maybe even younger when they came to Burg but IMO Burgs program probably has a lot to do with those kids being good as a team
..I think when kids come to Burg via open enrollment at a young age it's not because of sports it's because Burg has an excellent school system .


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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by wobycat » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:28 am

Oak wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:06 am
bleed_blue wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:14 pm
Oak wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:06 pm


No with open enrollment they should be able to go to any school they want as long as that school hasn't exceeded the number of students in that grade that they can support. If you want to go to that school put your name on a list and openings should be filled based on first come first serve. That would mean if Billy the trombone player wants to go to Wheelersburg and they have room, he should have the same opportunity as Jimmie the great athlete. That would be fair. But that doesn't happen
How do you know that doesn’t happen at Wheelersburg?
I know of 3 instances of this happening. One of those instances 2 boys applied at same time. 1 kid is really good and he was accepted. The other isn't near the player. He was declined
Is that how norm does it?

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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by fbnut » Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:38 am

Burg must be great at evaluating talent if they can determine whose going to be good athletes at the age of 5. Not sure about the instances that may have happened above but I do know of a very good athlete that wanted to open enroll at the jr high level a couple years back and be held back and they were denied.

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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by bleed_blue » Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:37 am

Oak wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:06 am
bleed_blue wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:14 pm
Oak wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:06 pm


No with open enrollment they should be able to go to any school they want as long as that school hasn't exceeded the number of students in that grade that they can support. If you want to go to that school put your name on a list and openings should be filled based on first come first serve. That would mean if Billy the trombone player wants to go to Wheelersburg and they have room, he should have the same opportunity as Jimmie the great athlete. That would be fair. But that doesn't happen
How do you know that doesn’t happen at Wheelersburg?
I know of 3 instances of this happening. One of those instances 2 boys applied at same time. 1 kid is really good and he was accepted. The other isn't near the player. He was declined
So you were at the board office with the powers that be when those discussions were made? You know every detail of those 3 instances or are you going off what you want to believe because it makes it convenient to spin it your way just so you can make yet another pathetic attempt to try to bash Wheelersburg as you constantly do on here?
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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by bleed_blue » Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:45 am

wobycat wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:28 am
Oak wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:06 am
bleed_blue wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:14 pm


How do you know that doesn’t happen at Wheelersburg?
I know of 3 instances of this happening. One of those instances 2 boys applied at same time. 1 kid is really good and he was accepted. The other isn't near the player. He was declined
Is that how norm does it?
Woby, you beat me to it haha.

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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by formerfcfan » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:03 pm

Oak wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:06 pm
BurgGrad6 wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:34 pm
Seabee_0586 wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:26 pm
They should play where they live
So a kid that lives out 522 in Franklin frurnace but closer to burg should have to go to and play for green? That is stupid. Let's hinder a kid academically and athletically because he lives in another school district!
No with open enrollment they should be able to go to any school they want as long as that school hasn't exceeded the number of students in that grade that they can support. If you want to go to that school put your name on a list and openings should be filled based on first come first serve. That would mean if Billy the trombone player wants to go to Wheelersburg and they have room, he should have the same opportunity as Jimmie the great athlete. That would be fair. But that doesn't happen
Seeing as how Burg outclasses the county in not just athletics, but also academics, I’m not sure this narrative fits.
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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by bleed_blue » Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:26 pm

formerfcfan wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:03 pm
Oak wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:06 pm
BurgGrad6 wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:34 pm


So a kid that lives out 522 in Franklin frurnace but closer to burg should have to go to and play for green? That is stupid. Let's hinder a kid academically and athletically because he lives in another school district!
No with open enrollment they should be able to go to any school they want as long as that school hasn't exceeded the number of students in that grade that they can support. If you want to go to that school put your name on a list and openings should be filled based on first come first serve. That would mean if Billy the trombone player wants to go to Wheelersburg and they have room, he should have the same opportunity as Jimmie the great athlete. That would be fair. But that doesn't happen
Seeing as how Burg outclasses the county in not just athletics, but also academics, I’m not sure this narrative fits.
It fits into Oak’s delusional mind because he/she is grasping at straws. Wheelersburg winning state has left him/her with this as a failed attempt try to bash Wheelersburg’s success once again.

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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by BigBlueNation » Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:12 pm

BurgGrad6 wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:34 pm
Seabee_0586 wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:26 pm
They should play where they live
So a kid that lives out 522 in Franklin frurnace but closer to burg should have to go to and play for green? That is stupid. Let's hinder a kid academically and athletically because he lives in another school district!
Yes they should go to Green. I have a West Portsmouth address live 5 miles from West schools but live in the Northwest district. We live 14miles from Northwest and that's where my kids go to school.

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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by Oak » Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:31 pm

bleed_blue wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:26 pm
It fits into Oak’s delusional mind because he/she is grasping at straws. Wheelersburg winning state has left him/her with this as a failed attempt try to bash Wheelersburg’s success once again.
What I told you is true. I know both families well

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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by greygoose » Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:00 pm

BigBlueNation wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:12 pm
BurgGrad6 wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:34 pm
Seabee_0586 wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:26 pm
They should play where they live
So a kid that lives out 522 in Franklin frurnace but closer to burg should have to go to and play for green? That is stupid. Let's hinder a kid academically and athletically because he lives in another school district!
Yes they should go to Green. I have a West Portsmouth address live 5 miles from West schools but live in the Northwest district. We live 14miles from Northwest and that's where my kids go to school.
And does the P-West bus provide pick up where you live or only Northwest bus pickup??

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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by bleed_blue » Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:12 pm

Oak wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:31 pm
bleed_blue wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:26 pm
It fits into Oak’s delusional mind because he/she is grasping at straws. Wheelersburg winning state has left him/her with this as a failed attempt try to bash Wheelersburg’s success once again.
What I told you is true. I know both families well
I have a 2 kids that do open enrollment at Wheelersburg and athletics are far from their strong points. Yet they got in so if they don’t take first come first serve until all spots are filled like it says on their school website then how in the world did my kids get in?

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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by BigBlueNation » Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:15 pm

greygoose wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:00 pm
BigBlueNation wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:12 pm
BurgGrad6 wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:34 pm


So a kid that lives out 522 in Franklin frurnace but closer to burg should have to go to and play for green? That is stupid. Let's hinder a kid academically and athletically because he lives in another school district!
Yes they should go to Green. I have a West Portsmouth address live 5 miles from West schools but live in the Northwest district. We live 14miles from Northwest and that's where my kids go to school.
And does the P-West bus provide pick up where you live or only Northwest bus pickup??
Only Northwest. Several kids on our road goes to West and a few go to Burg.

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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by Oak » Sun Dec 24, 2017 9:17 pm

bleed_blue wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:12 pm
Oak wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:31 pm
bleed_blue wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:26 pm
It fits into Oak’s delusional mind because he/she is grasping at straws. Wheelersburg winning state has left him/her with this as a failed attempt try to bash Wheelersburg’s success once again.
What I told you is true. I know both families well
I have a 2 kids that do open enrollment at Wheelersburg and athletics are far from their strong points. Yet they got in so if they don’t take first come first serve until all spots are filled like it says on their school website then how in the world did my kids get in?
I don't know. I'm sure the enrollment multiplier has made a difference in how many and who they are taking.

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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by Abe Froman » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:06 pm

Oak wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:31 pm
bleed_blue wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:26 pm
It fits into Oak’s delusional mind because he/she is grasping at straws. Wheelersburg winning state has left him/her with this as a failed attempt try to bash Wheelersburg’s success once again.
What I told you is true. I know both families well
Isn't like 80% of your starting line-up on the hardwood this year "transfers"? What is even your point? Open enrollment is like complaining that too many people are driving 55MPH in a 55 MPH zone. Swear this makes zero sense.

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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by Oak » Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:05 am

Abe Froman wrote:
Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:06 pm
Isn't like 80% of your starting line-up on the hardwood this year "transfers"? What is even your point? Open enrollment is like complaining that too many people are driving 55MPH in a 55 MPH zone. Swear this makes zero sense.
True. Difference is Oak Hill people don't deny that it's been a huge part of success. If you mention that in a Wheelersburg thread it's deny, deny, deny. If you wanna bring up basketball, 2 out of Wheelersburg's 3 best basketball players have transferred in in the last 1 to 2 years. Without them, Wheelersburg would be struggling.

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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by scott1297 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:45 am

Oak wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:05 am
Abe Froman wrote:
Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:06 pm
Isn't like 80% of your starting line-up on the hardwood this year "transfers"? What is even your point? Open enrollment is like complaining that too many people are driving 55MPH in a 55 MPH zone. Swear this makes zero sense.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
True. Difference is Oak Hill people don't deny that it's been a huge part of success. If you mention that in a Wheelersburg thread it's deny, deny, deny. If you wanna bring up basketball, 2 out of Wheelersburg's 3 best basketball players have transferred in in the last 1 to 2 years. Without them, Wheelersburg would be struggling.
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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by scott1297 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:46 am

Oak wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:05 am
Abe Froman wrote:
Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:06 pm
Isn't like 80% of your starting line-up on the hardwood this year "transfers"? What is even your point? Open enrollment is like complaining that too many people are driving 55MPH in a 55 MPH zone. Swear this makes zero sense.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
True. Difference is Oak Hill people don't deny that it's been a huge part of success. If you mention that in a Wheelersburg thread it's deny, deny, deny. If you wanna bring up basketball, 2 out of Wheelersburg's 3 best basketball players have transferred in in the last 1 to 2 years. Without them, Wheelersburg would be struggling.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by Oak » Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:42 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Great conversation :lol:

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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by greygoose » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:15 am

Thought this thread was about the discussion of the SOC 2 and how it will look next year. Open enrollment is present so why does it matter?? It's like saying private schools recruit, yeah so what it happens get over it. No rule violation.

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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by fbnut » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:22 am

greygoose wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:15 am
Thought this thread was about the discussion of the SOC 2 and how it will look next year. Open enrollment is present so why does it matter?? It's like saying private schools recruit, yeah so what it happens get over it. No rule violation.
It’s an easy way for people to justify why they can’t compete

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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by greygoose » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:34 am

Yeah and in some of these situations, a kid who goes to a school that doesn't even offer football is expected to be forced to stay there why?? A parent who would prefer their child given the opportunity get an education from a better school should what?? Live with it?? I can tell you right now and I'm going to single them out but seeing the way East players and fans act on Friday nights would be enough for me not to send me child there. There's different reasons, for everything p-town can't get the proper coaching, green's football is in limbo, East already stated why not to mention lack of funding to go towards educational programs, South Webster, Clay, New Boston no football. This is the reality of teams in the area, like it, love it, hate it, it is what it is and every child and parent has to do what's best for their situation. Knocking a school such as Burg for doing nothing more then providing the open enrollment forms to people is sort of stupid, especially considering each of these schools have.....drum roll, OPEN ENROLLMENT.

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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by LICKING COUNTY FAN » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:39 pm

In looking at the new schedules, I have two games on my short list of games to attend.
(Won't decide for sure until all of the teams schedules are up)

Game 1 Wheelersburg at Hartley (Have to get the really early to park on the street by the visitors bleachers, so I can keep an eye on my car)

Game 2 Raceland, Ky at West Portsmouth(Would be my first trip to West)

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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by greygoose » Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:28 pm

LICKING COUNTY FAN wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:39 pm
In looking at the new schedules, I have two games on my short list of games to attend.
(Won't decide for sure until all of the teams schedules are up)

Game 1 Wheelersburg at Hartley (Have to get the really early to park on the street by the visitors bleachers, so I can keep an eye on my car)

Game 2 Raceland, Ky at West Portsmouth(Would be my first trip to West)
Don't sit on the visitor side at West if you do bring EXTRA powerful binoculars. Feel like you're a mile away from the field.

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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by LICKING COUNTY FAN » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:13 am

greygoose wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:28 pm
LICKING COUNTY FAN wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:39 pm
In looking at the new schedules, I have two games on my short list of games to attend.
(Won't decide for sure until all of the teams schedules are up)

Game 1 Wheelersburg at Hartley (Have to get the really early to park on the street by the visitors bleachers, so I can keep an eye on my car)

Game 2 Raceland, Ky at West Portsmouth(Would be my first trip to West)
Don't sit on the visitor side at West if you do bring EXTRA powerful binoculars. Feel like you're a mile away from the field.
Thanks for the heads up. I have a friend from West and if he goes to the game, I would be setting on the home side with him.

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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by jgrlzz » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:55 pm

Does anyone know if Lucasville Valley is playing at Raceland, KY on September 14 (week 4) and hosting Fairveiw, KY on September 21 (week 5)?

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Post by Mad-Dogg » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:08 pm

jgrlzz wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:12 am
UPDATED 1/10/2018

LUCASVILLE VALLEY
24-Aug-18 H PORTSMOUTH
31-Aug-18 H COAL GROVE DAWSON-BRYANT
7-Sep-18 A PIKETON
14-Sep-18
21-Sep-18
28-Sep-18 H WAVERLY
5-Oct-18 A PORTSMOUTH WEST
12-Oct-18 H BELPRE
19-Oct-18 A WHEELERSBURG
26-Oct-18 H MINFORD

MINFORD
24-Aug-18 A IRONTON ROCK HILL
31-Aug-18 H OAK HILL
7-Sep-18 H NELSONVILLE-YORK
14-Sep-18 A MCDERMOTT NORTHWEST
21-Sep-18 A WILLIAMSBURG
28-Sep-18 H PORTSMOUTH WEST
5-Oct-18 A MCARTHUR VINTON COUNTY
12-Oct-18 A WHEELERSBURG
19-Oct-18 H WAVERLY
26-Oct-18 A LUCASVILLE VALLEY

PORTSMOUTH WEST
24-Aug-18 A SOUTH POINT
31-Aug-18 A PORTSMOUTH
7-Sep-18 H COAL GROVE DAWSON-BRYANT
14-Sep-18 H WELLSTON
21-Sep-18 H RACELAND
28-Sep-18 A MINFORD
5-Oct-18 H LUCASVILLE VALLEY
12-Oct-18 A WAVERLY
19-Oct-18
26-Oct-18 H WHEELERSBURG

WAVERLY
24-Aug-18 A PIKETON
31-Aug-18 H CHILLICOTHE ZANE TRACE
7-Sep-18 A CHILLICOTHE UNIOTO
14-Sep-18 H PROCTORVILLE FAIRLAND
21-Sep-18 H NELSONVILLE-YORK
28-Sep-18 A LUCASVILLE VALLEY
5-Oct-18 H WHEELERSBURG
12-Oct-18 H PORTSMOUTH WEST
19-Oct-18 A MINFORD
26-Oct-18

WHEELERSBURG
24-Aug-18 H IRONTON
31-Aug-18 A COLUMBUS BISHOP HARTLEY
7-Sep-18 H HEATH
14-Sep-18 A COLUMBUS BISHOP WATERSON
21-Sep-18 H JACKSON
28-Sep-18 A OAK HILL, OH
5-Oct-18 A WAVERLY
12-Oct-18 H MINFORD
19-Oct-18 H LUCASVILLE VALLEY
26-Oct-18 A PORTSMOUTH WEST
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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by Mad-Dogg » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:24 pm

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I would want my kid to play for a team that is actually successful then a team that only wins a couple games a season. I love how everyone bitches at our success. If some of these schools actually had descent programs these kids wouldn't leave.

I know this is off the topic but I'm more concerned with the private schools playing public schools in the playoffs. They have no business playin them. If they can legally recruit then so should the public schools
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Post by greygoose » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:52 pm

Mad-Dogg wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:24 pm
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I would want my kid to play for a team that is actually successful then a team that only wins a couple games a season. I love how everyone bitches at our success. If some of these schools actually had descent programs these kids wouldn't leave.

I know this is off the topic but I'm more concerned with the private schools playing public schools in the playoffs. They have no business playin them. If they can legally recruit then so should the public schools
As long as it's been since anyone has posted to this topic seems like you're trying to stir a bit. I mean you're bringing up something that at least on this topic ppl mentioned back around Christmas time. No one is talking about it so I honestly have no idea why you'd even vent for no other reason than to stir and start something.

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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by Omega » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:52 pm

Apparently Waverly has filled week ten with Logan. Likely an away game.

https://www.logandaily.com/sports/waver ... fcf02.html

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Post by Chieftain2009 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:08 pm

Omega wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:52 pm
Apparently Waverly has filled week ten with Logan. Likely an away game.

https://www.logandaily.com/sports/waver ... fcf02.html

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Post by Omega » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:24 pm

Chieftain2009 wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:08 pm
Omega wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:52 pm
Apparently Waverly has filled week ten with Logan. Likely an away game.

https://www.logandaily.com/sports/waver ... fcf02.html

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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by smurray » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:52 pm

Omega wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:24 pm
Chieftain2009 wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:08 pm
Omega wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:52 pm
Apparently Waverly has filled week ten with Logan. Likely an away game.

https://www.logandaily.com/sports/waver ... fcf02.html

Sorry about the pay wall.
This game will be at Waverly.
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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by 4thgoal » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:58 am

I saw a post on Facebook with an image of West's field with turf. If this a sure thing that is going to happen? For the 2018 season?

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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by thebarlowbandit » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:31 pm

Chieftain2009 wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:08 pm
Omega wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:52 pm
Apparently Waverly has filled week ten with Logan. Likely an away game.

https://www.logandaily.com/sports/waver ... fcf02.html

Sorry about the pay wall.
This game will be at Waverly.
I know you will take this the wrong way, but why is Logan playing Waverly? Why did they play Minford last year? Why so many DIV and DV teams? Makes no sense to me.

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Re: SOC-DIVISION 2

Post by Omega » Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:51 pm

thebarlowbandit wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:31 pm
Chieftain2009 wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:08 pm
Omega wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:52 pm
Apparently Waverly has filled week ten with Logan. Likely an away game.

https://www.logandaily.com/sports/waver ... fcf02.html

Sorry about the pay wall.
This game will be at Waverly.
I know you will take this the wrong way, but why is Logan playing Waverly? Why did they play Minford last year? Why so many DIV and DV teams? Makes no sense to me.
Logan has the burden of filling a ten game schedule as an independent, not an easy thing to do without guaranteed conference games. I understand both squads will be in a rebuilding mode so the contest should be competitive. Throw in a brief shared history in the SEOAL, scheduling the game is a no brainer for both schools
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