2018 Ironton Head football coach

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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by BigCarlito72 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:53 pm

Quite honestly - why would Salmons leave a chance to coach in the MSAC ( Capital, GW, South Charleston, Spring Valley) to coach in the 😂😂😂😂 OVC😂😂😂😂 at a school whos enrollment has decreased by 100 students between 2007 - 2012 in a town whos population is on a 2.5% average decline? When are you going to figure out that Irontons football program has declined because Ironton has declined sociologically? This isnt complicated.



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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by Tartanblue » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:59 pm

BigCarlito72 wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:53 pm
Quite honestly - why would Salmons leave a chance to coach in the MSAC ( Capital, GW, South Charleston, Spring Valley) to coach in the 😂😂😂😂 OVC😂😂😂😂 at a school whos enrollment has decreased by 100 students between 2007 - 2012 in a town whos population is on a 2.5% average decline? When are you going to figure out that Irontons football program has declined because Ironton has declined sociologically? This isnt complicated.
Then why waste not one but two separate schools in two separate states time? Especially knowing he's not going to leave and push things further back for those schools?



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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by BigCarlito72 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:00 pm

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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by BigCarlito72 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:01 pm

Tartanblue wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:59 pm
BigCarlito72 wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:53 pm
Quite honestly - why would Salmons leave a chance to coach in the MSAC ( Capital, GW, South Charleston, Spring Valley) to coach in the 😂😂😂😂 OVC😂😂😂😂 at a school whos enrollment has decreased by 100 students between 2007 - 2012 in a town whos population is on a 2.5% average decline? When are you going to figure out that Irontons football program has declined because Ironton has declined sociologically? This isnt complicated.
It is pretty common professionally speaking as well as his right to interview wherever he chooses and test the waters. Also his right to decline an offer. Its business.

Then why waste not one but two separate schools in two separate states time? Especially knowing he's not going to leave and push things further back for those schools?



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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by BigCarlito72 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:05 pm

To hell with "Irontons time" - as if their needs are priority for any coach who interviews. Up until you accept a position - as an applicant - your professional interest is your top priority.

Ironton is and has been regressive and narrow minded as a whole on just about every level. Let em eat cake.



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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by BigCarlito72 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:18 pm

2quick2catch wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:53 pm
Truthful wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:46 pm
79Tiger wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:27 pm


Offer Pendleton. The board has already proven they will hire an outsider so let's get this done.

pendleton would be here for only a minute before going to west when that job opens up!
I disagree, I think Pendleton views Ironton as a destination job.
Why would ANYONE view a school with an enrollment that has decreased by 100 students over a 5 year span - in a town that is on an average 2% population decline and trending down with a bullet as a "destination" job?

Ironton is a dead end job. Face it. Sociology is not your amigo tigers.



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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by BigBlueNation » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:20 pm

I would say Mark Vass will continue to be the coach, when this is said and done. :lol:



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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by Urban » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:33 pm

Just reading some of these posts.

Pendleton played for a good program at Michigan State. Didn't Vass play for the great Bob Lutz? Where did that get Ironton?

Where has Pendleton said he would bring in all these former Ironton people like Triplett? Because when you get Triplett you get the guys that follow him from job to job like the remoras do to sharks.

Ironton isn't a destination job for Pendleton. He will either move on to college soon or take the Portsmouth West job when it opens.

Honestly any coach with aspersions on a career would be stupid to take this job
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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by BigCarlito72 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:35 pm

BigBlueNation wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:20 pm
I would say Mark Vass will continue to be the coach, when this is said and done. :lol:
Lol. They could hire Jim Tressel and it isnt gonna matter. The town of Ironton failed to grow and thusly cannot sustain success in high school football, economics, etc etc.

Dont worry though. If you read the news even poorly Ironton as a community has the toughest contest of their life ahead.

Welcome to poverty and the opiate epidemic.



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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by BigCarlito72 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:36 pm

Urban wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:33 pm
Just reading some of these posts.

Pendleton played for a good program at Michigan State. Didn't Vass play for the great Bob Lutz? Where did that get you?

Where has Pendleton said he would bring in all these former Ironton people like Triplett? Because when you get Triplett you get the guys that follow him from job to job like the remoras do to sharks.

Ironton isn't a destination job for Pendleton. He will either move on to college soon or take the Portsmouth West job when it opens.

Honestly any coach with aspersions on a career would be stupid to take this job
Agreed 100% I have concluded that Irontonians permit their emotions to drive the bus whilst their critical thinking skills hit the eject button ages ago.



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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by Urban » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:48 pm

BigCarlito72 wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:36 pm
Agreed 100% I have concluded that Irontonians permit their emotions to drive the bus whilst their critical thinking skills hit the eject button ages ago.
Pendleton would probably do a good job if given time and left alone, but it's obvious that isn't gonna happen. Guy isn't even been considered yet and all the cronies of Ironton are volunteering assistants. Vass could've done a decent job if these same people didn't stab him in the back and turn the community against him from the beginning



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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by BigCarlito72 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:59 pm

Urban wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:48 pm
BigCarlito72 wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:36 pm
Agreed 100% I have concluded that Irontonians permit their emotions to drive the bus whilst their critical thinking skills hit the eject button ages ago.
Pendleton would probably do a good job if given time and left alone, but it's obvious that isn't gonna happen. Guy isn't even been considered yet and all the cronies of Ironton are volunteering assistants. Vass could've done a decent job if these same people didn't stab him in the back and turn the community against him from the beginning
It is what it is. Fact of the matter is this. The Vass/Burcham/Lutz monarchy in Ironton is only interested in Ironton as long as they are in positions that feed their social status needs. Once challenged or brought down from a perceived hierarchy you start seeing posts on social media about starting their own Lutz/Burcham regime at Rock Hill. 😂😂😂😂

Regardless what happens Ironton is dying folks. Its dying. Be thankful you will not be forced to watch more of the Lutz/Burcham 1970's playbook struggle to keep up with coaches who coach in the here and now.



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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by formerfcfan » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:03 am

BigCarlito72 wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:18 pm
2quick2catch wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:53 pm
Truthful wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:46 pm



pendleton would be here for only a minute before going to west when that job opens up!
I disagree, I think Pendleton views Ironton as a destination job.
Why would ANYONE view a school with an enrollment that has decreased by 100 students over a 5 year span - in a town that is on an average 2% population decline and trending down with a bullet as a "destination" job?

Ironton is a dead end job. Face it. Sociology is not your amigo tigers.
For as many relevant and substantial points you make about the community of Ironton’s fall and decline into its current state, I feel obliged to point out that you keep referring to “sociology” when it isn’t the correct term to use (at all.) I believe you mean socioeconomics, or even social inequality.



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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by Buramgerdin » Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:03 am

Not to mention that socioeconomic levels do not correlate directly to wins in high school football, ie Coal Grove and Raceland. I guess those two towns are booming economically and the population is growing? You really sound ignorant BigCarlito. Sorry but your points are moot. The reason Ironton football has declined is obvious. Ironton's population was also declining from the 70s into the 80s and into the 90s yet they won football games. The economy of Ironton was eroding from decade to decade yet Lutz won football games.

Ironton is now a circus because it has clowns running the show, from the football coaches to the AD. They have burnt Ironton football to the ground.



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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by Game day » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:35 am

art_vandelay wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:22 pm
Amateur hour in Ironton. You don't offer the job unless you know the candidate will for sure accept...especially not to a guy who has pulled this stunt before!! Doesn't matter who they hire now....fans and kids will be discounting the hire as their Plan B and not buying in from the start.*
Coach Lutz was plan B and look what happened.



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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by Game day » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:37 am

Urban wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:48 pm
BigCarlito72 wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:36 pm
Agreed 100% I have concluded that Irontonians permit their emotions to drive the bus whilst their critical thinking skills hit the eject button ages ago.
Pendleton would probably do a good job if given time and left alone, but it's obvious that isn't gonna happen. Guy isn't even been considered yet and all the cronies of Ironton are volunteering assistants. Vass could've done a decent job if these same people didn't stab him in the back and turn the community against him from the beginning



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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:05 am

this is just so sad to see happening, it breaks my heart for the town, the kids, the fans, the school itself.


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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by osu 77 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:10 am

90 percent of the posters on here could care less about Ironton football period.

Every school in this area that made changes ran into all kinds of issues here is the list below:

- Rock Hill - took 3 years hired the same coach back twice
- Coal Grove - brought back the same coach hire a new coach he left and hired a new young coach
- Portsmouth - 5 years 3 different coaches
- South Point - I lost count of how many new coaches they have had a new one this year.
- Gallipolis - 3 different coaches in 5 years



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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by 12gauge » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:23 am

Waterboy #rollcoal
You are pretty fired up over this Ironton BOE.
Why would someone from Coal Grove be this hard on a BOE from Ironton?
I'm guessing multiple user names.
I'm sure you have never been to a BOE meeting,then again why would you #roll coal



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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by moonshine » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:29 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: This is as Urban refers to as a CLOWN SHOW! :mrgreen:



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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by 12gauge » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:49 am

Buramgerdin wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:03 am
Not to mention that socioeconomic levels do not correlate directly to wins in high school football, ie Coal Grove and Raceland. I guess those two towns are booming economically and the population is growing? You really sound ignorant BigCarlito. Sorry but your points are moot. The reason Ironton football has declined is obvious. Ironton's population was also declining from the 70s into the 80s and into the 90s yet they won football games. The economy of Ironton was eroding from decade to decade yet Lutz won football games.

Ironton is now a circus because it has clowns running the show, from the football coaches to the AD. They have burnt Ironton football to the ground.
Leave Raceland out of the mix. They have kids playing there that don't even live in the same State. There are kids playing there from Ironton,South Point,Rock Hill to name a few. Also let's not forget the former Volleyball coach,who was recruiting girls and got caught up in a mess and resigned. Every team will have up years. Again I say why would someone from the "Burg" give 2 sh!ts what goes on at Ironton. Asking for a friend lol



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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by osu 77 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:09 am

osu 77 wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:10 am
90 percent of the posters on here could care less about Ironton football period.

Every school in this area that made changes ran into all kinds of issues here is the list below:

- Rock Hill - took 3 years hired the same coach back twice
- Coal Grove - brought back the same coach hire a new coach he left and hired a new young coach
- Portsmouth - 5 years 3 different coaches
- South Point - I lost count of how many new coaches they have had a new one this year.
- Gallipolis - 3 different coaches in 5 years



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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by Jolly P(irate) » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:28 am

12gauge wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:49 am
Buramgerdin wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:03 am
Not to mention that socioeconomic levels do not correlate directly to wins in high school football, ie Coal Grove and Raceland. I guess those two towns are booming economically and the population is growing? You really sound ignorant BigCarlito. Sorry but your points are moot. The reason Ironton football has declined is obvious. Ironton's population was also declining from the 70s into the 80s and into the 90s yet they won football games. The economy of Ironton was eroding from decade to decade yet Lutz won football games.

Ironton is now a circus because it has clowns running the show, from the football coaches to the AD. They have burnt Ironton football to the ground.
Leave Raceland out of the mix. They have kids playing there that don't even live in the same State. There are kids playing there from Ironton,South Point,Rock Hill to name a few. Also let's not forget the former Volleyball coach,who was recruiting girls and got caught up in a mess and resigned. Every team will have up years. Again I say why would someone from the "Burg" give 2 sh!ts what goes on at Ironton. Asking for a friend lol
I’ll tell you why people from Burg CARE. It’s rather obvious. Competition, it’s what makes good teams great. A strong schedule, the PREMIER game for Southern Ohio. This goes far beyond hatred and rivalry. We want Ironton BACK. We want a slug fest week 1.



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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by bbjunky81 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:28 am

Let me just say that the Ironton folk saying "We don't want Pendleton!" "We don't need anyone with zero head coaching experience" "Just because he played high level football doesn't mean he can coach!" YOU people saying that are exactly the problem at Ironton. Get over the glory days, they're over. Times have changed, looks like you haven't adjusted yet.

This is a high level D1 player, who played several years under a VERY intelligent college coach, who has already built a rep in the area as a tremendously hard worker and who has terrific workout regiments he's putting athletes through.... that applied for a job that let's face it, isn't 25% the job it was 10 years ago (it isn't, and don't act like it is).

What you NEED is a young, motivated, hard working guy who's willing to dedicate all his time to a struggling program to get it back in the right direction. Pendleton would do that. Sure, he'd make some mistakes along the way. ALL coaches do. The difference is these days all the buffoons who use social media to degrade and bash a coach each step of the way. Ironton is YEARS AWAY from being relevant, and that's assuming they get a good hire to get the program heading towards better times. Hire Pendleton, let him learn, let him grow, let him try and get this program back in the right direction.

This is not a tough situation but the AD/Principal/whoever in charge has made it ridiculously complex and has failed miserably along the way.


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Re: 2018 Ironton Head football coach

Post by osu 77 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:30 am

bbjunky81 wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:28 am
Let me just say that the Ironton folk saying "We don't want Pendleton!" "We don't need anyone with zero head coaching experience" "Just because he played high level football doesn't mean he can coach!" YOU people saying that are exactly the problem at Ironton. Get over the glory days, they're over. Times have changed, looks like you haven't adjusted yet.

This is a high level D1 player, who played several years under a VERY intelligent college coach, who has already built a rep in the area as a tremendously hard worker and who has terrific workout regiments he's putting athletes through.... that applied for a job that let's face it, isn't 25% the job it was 10 years ago (it isn't, and don't act like it is).

What you NEED is a young, motivated, hard working guy who's willing to dedicate all his time to a struggling program to get it back in the right direction. Pendleton would do that. Sure, he'd make some mistakes along the way. ALL coaches do. The difference is these days all the buffoons who use social media to degrade and bash a coach each step of the way. Ironton is YEARS AWAY from being relevant, and that's assuming they get a good hire to get the program heading towards better times. Hire Pendleton, let him learn, let him grow, let him try and get this program back in the right direction.

This is not a tough situation but the AD/Principal/whoever in charge has made it ridiculously complex and has failed miserably along the way.
Well said



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