2018 Ironton Fighting Tigers The Pendleton Era

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Re: Pendleton - New Ironton Head Football Coach

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Mavrick2016 wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 6:45 pm
YOU'RE TIGER BAIT wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 5:21 pm you're gonna be stoked when you see this staff. but I've sworn to secrecy.

So when they let the rest of us know.
Good question!!


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Is it going to make their enrollment stop shrinking?


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Irontons steady - consistent population decline

2016 10,891 -30 -0.27%
2015 10,921 -87 -0.79%
2014 11,008 -58 -0.52%
2013 11,066 -27 -0.24%
2012 11,093 -36 -0.32%
2011 11,129 0.00%
2010 11,129 -82 -0.73%
2000 11,211 -1,540 -12.08%
1990 12,751 -1,539 -10.77%
1980 14,290 -740 -4.92%
1970 15,030 -715 -4.54%
1960 15,745 -588 -3.60%

Decline - Decline - Decline

Presently the median age average in Ironton

Male - 42
Female- 38

The median age in Ironton is over 2% older than the state average.

Ironton currently has over a 3.1% unemployment rate.

The poverty rate in Ironton is 40% higher than the national average.

In approximately a 5 year span Irontons enrollment decreased by 100 students. 100!

The population is Still In steady decline.

The median age is aging.

Seriously - where is the numbers and the people going to come from that will be significant enough to change the steady population decline and counter the aging median average in order to sustain this school and this football program over the next 5 - 10 years as well as long term?

And for those of you who do not find reality as a significant variable consider this.

Presently just below 400 student enrollment.

Per the above in 5 years or so you will be around 300 total enrollment or just below.

The roster will dip from 40 to around 30 or so - and so on and so on.

This is just the truth. I have no emotional investment whatsoever. The question is still valid and relevant to the discussion.

There is only so much a coach or coaches can do. They cannot change any of these applicable factors.

So what should your TRUE and realistic expectations be?

It is food for thought.

Are you prepared to accept the reality of the inevitable?


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A lot of good info Carlito. I do not have any emotional investment whatsoever either. So as an outsider looking in, I would think that seeing discipline, hard work, effort, positive attitudes, kids enjoying playing the game, parents and administration supporting the new coach and staff would go a long way in getting their program back to where all the Ironton faithfuls want it to be. I do wish Pendleton luck and hope he has a lot of success there.


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From some of the above statements sounds like ironton should consolidate with a nearby school system if they ever want to be competitive again! :mrgreen:


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Mavrick2016 wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 6:45 pm
YOU'RE TIGER BAIT wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 5:21 pm you're gonna be stoked when you see this staff. but I've sworn to secrecy.

So when they let the rest of us know.
I know the announcement is supposed to be very soon, still doing a few interviews.


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moonshine wrote: Thu May 10, 2018 8:31 am From some of the above statements sounds like ironton should consolidate with a nearby school system if they ever want to be competitive again! :mrgreen:
we shall see shine. don't make us come up 93 and whoop up on dem purple indians


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YOU'RE TIGER BAIT wrote: Thu May 10, 2018 8:37 am
moonshine wrote: Thu May 10, 2018 8:31 am From some of the above statements sounds like ironton should consolidate with a nearby school system if they ever want to be competitive again! :mrgreen:
we shall see shine. don't make us come up 93 and whoop up on dem purple indians
Bait old buddy, We have our own problems BUT whooping up on some tiger meat would help us here in the swamp!


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Carl has a lot of time on his hands


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YOU'RE TIGER BAIT wrote: Thu May 10, 2018 8:34 am
Mavrick2016 wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 6:45 pm
YOU'RE TIGER BAIT wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 5:21 pm you're gonna be stoked when you see this staff. but I've sworn to secrecy.

So when they let the rest of us know.
I know the announcement is supposed to be very soon, still doing a few interviews.
Has his hands full I would say with all the weight lifting and dealing with setting the tone for this year.


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transplant wrote: Thu May 10, 2018 6:56 am A lot of good info Carlito. I do not have any emotional investment whatsoever either. So as an outsider looking in, I would think that seeing discipline, hard work, effort, positive attitudes, kids enjoying playing the game, parents and administration supporting the new coach and staff would go a long way in getting their program back to where all the Ironton faithfuls want it to be. I do wish Pendleton luck and hope he has a lot of success there.
Correct. However its important to understand any success will be on a significantly smaller scale amd in much smaller increments than years passed. Its vital to adjust expectations accordingly.


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Re: Pendleton - New Ironton Head Football Coach

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moonshine wrote: Thu May 10, 2018 8:31 am From some of the above statements sounds like ironton should consolidate with a nearby school system if they ever want to be competitive again! :mrgreen:
Correct. Eventually that will be the result.


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4th and iches wrote: Thu May 10, 2018 10:04 am Carl has a lot of time on his hands
Your wife couldn't make it over last night. 😉


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BigCarlito72 wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 11:48 pm Irontons steady - consistent population decline

2016 10,891 -30 -0.27%
2015 10,921 -87 -0.79%
2014 11,008 -58 -0.52%
2013 11,066 -27 -0.24%
2012 11,093 -36 -0.32%
2011 11,129 0.00%
2010 11,129 -82 -0.73%
2000 11,211 -1,540 -12.08%
1990 12,751 -1,539 -10.77%
1980 14,290 -740 -4.92%
1970 15,030 -715 -4.54%
1960 15,745 -588 -3.60%

Decline - Decline - Decline

Presently the median age average in Ironton

Male - 42
Female- 38

The median age in Ironton is over 2% older than the state average.



Ironton currently has over a 3.1% unemployment rate.

The poverty rate in Ironton is 40% higher than the national average.

In approximately a 5 year span Irontons enrollment decreased by 100 students. 100!

The population is Still In steady decline.

The median age is aging.

Seriously - where is the numbers and the people going to come from that will be significant enough to change the steady population decline and counter the aging median average in order to sustain this school and this football program over the next 5 - 10 years as well as long term?

And for those of you who do not find reality as a significant variable consider this.

Presently just below 400 student enrollment.

Per the above in 5 years or so you will be around 300 total enrollment or just below.

The roster will dip from 40 to around 30 or so - and so on and so on.

This is just the truth. I have no emotional investment whatsoever. The question is still valid and relevant to the discussion.

There is only so much a coach or coaches can do. They cannot change any of these applicable factors.

So what should your TRUE and realistic expectations be?

It is food for thought.

Are you prepared to accept the reality of the inevitable?
Alright Mr. socio-economic guru, what is your solution to the status of the Ironton program? If you have none, why bother with all of this nonsense? Move on to a thread where your negativity is welcome. I could not care less for your constant pessimism. I wish all SEO programs well and want to them all to suceed regardless of your meanderings


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Re: Pendleton - New Ironton Head Football Coach

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79Tiger wrote: Thu May 10, 2018 1:52 pm
BigCarlito72 wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 11:48 pm Irontons steady - consistent population decline

2016 10,891 -30 -0.27%
2015 10,921 -87 -0.79%
2014 11,008 -58 -0.52%
2013 11,066 -27 -0.24%
2012 11,093 -36 -0.32%
2011 11,129 0.00%
2010 11,129 -82 -0.73%
2000 11,211 -1,540 -12.08%
1990 12,751 -1,539 -10.77%
1980 14,290 -740 -4.92%
1970 15,030 -715 -4.54%
1960 15,745 -588 -3.60%

Decline - Decline - Decline

Presently the median age average in Ironton

Male - 42
Female- 38

The median age in Ironton is over 2% older than the state average.



Ironton currently has over a 3.1% unemployment rate.

The poverty rate in Ironton is 40% higher than the national average.

In approximately a 5 year span Irontons enrollment decreased by 100 students. 100!

The population is Still In steady decline.

The median age is aging.

Seriously - where is the numbers and the people going to come from that will be significant enough to change the steady population decline and counter the aging median average in order to sustain this school and this football program over the next 5 - 10 years as well as long term?

And for those of you who do not find reality as a significant variable consider this.

Presently just below 400 student enrollment.

Per the above in 5 years or so you will be around 300 total enrollment or just below.

The roster will dip from 40 to around 30 or so - and so on and so on.

This is just the truth. I have no emotional investment whatsoever. The question is still valid and relevant to the discussion.

There is only so much a coach or coaches can do. They cannot change any of these applicable factors.

So what should your TRUE and realistic expectations be?

It is food for thought.

Are you prepared to accept the reality of the inevitable?
Alright Mr. socio-economic guru, what is your solution to the status of the Ironton program? If you have none, why bother with all of this nonsense? Move on to a thread where your negativity is welcome. I could not care less for your constant pessimism. I wish all SEO programs well and want to them all to suceed regardless of your meanderings
The new coach may prove to be the next Bob Lutz for Ironton; I wish the entire Tiger clan the best.

But Carlito is describing something that I have also observed, guys. Higher Population density and familial stability (usually most affected by finances) compared to your divisional peers are the keys to long term football success, certainly in the smaller divisions.

Ironton is dropping by both metrics. To say this is true is NOT saying that there are no kids in stable situations; it is merely saying that there are fewer in those good situations across the district.


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Those metrics are exactly why arnton needs to Join the tvc ohio


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I could see Ironton dropping to division 6 over the next few years.


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Game day wrote: Thu May 10, 2018 3:08 pm I could see Ironton dropping to division 6 over the next few years.
Not even close


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That’s not completely far fetched. Ironton’s enrollment # is 155 and CB # is 169. DVI is 114-162.


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if everything goes as planned me n tim hodges will be there at the meet n greet for new ironton fighting tiger coach trevon Pendleton and his staff tonight. Friday the 11th at the endzone in ironton at 6pm. ya'll ought to come out and meet this guy. and help him get off to a great start at ironton this fall.


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