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TVC Expansion

Post by Dundas » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:31 am

I look for Fort Frye to petition the conference for membership now that the PVC has pretty much folded. The TVC needs to add 2 teams to get to 18 total and an even number for 2 divisions. Again, Oak Hill will not like playing in the SOCII. The TVC needs to invite them to join. The week to week non conference game is a killer for each division. Especially for the teams that have late season slots to fill. I’ve thrown out the 3 division format that I think would work great but there are plenty of people who don’t like 6 team divisions. I’ve heard a lot about keeping a large number in the divisions to help generate playoff points for the teams that finish in the top 3 spots. Okay. I get it. So i spent some time and thought it over. Here is a simpler version of addition. It’s even for easier scheduling. It’s based pretty much on numbers. It’s not drastically different from what we have now. Basically it just evens out the conferences and gets rid of the late season non conference games for each division. Let me know what’s wrong with this one. Haha

What do you think about this?

Ohio

Athens 334 D3
VC 252 D4
Meigs 213 D4
Alex 210 D5
River Valley 203 D5
Wellston 176 D5
Oak Hill 172 D5
NY 147 D6

Hocking

Fort Frye 148 D6
Belpre 125 D6
Fed Hock 119 D6
Trimble 105 D7
Eastern 102 D7
Wahama 91 D7
Southern 91D7
S Gallia 91 D7
Miller 82 D7
Waterford 78 D7


8 team Ohio. First 4 games are non conference and last 6 conference.

10 team hocking. First week non conference. Last 9 conference.

Would that make everyone happy? Playoff generating machines for both divisions. Should get 2-3 in each year from each division. Sometimes 4 in the Hocking.

Again, this will end the non conference weeks that teams struggle to fill. It’s only a matter of time before a team or two won’t be able to find a week 5-10 matchup with all of SEO conferences moving to even numbers starting next year with the soc and in 2020 with the mvl and ecol. Games will be hard to come by after 2020. I think this would be a great conference. Even though it’s not my first choice of formats. What do you think?



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Post by Dundas » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:59 am

For those that do not know the area/TVC. Here is a map with black names as Ohio Division and Blue names as Hocking Division and where they are in relation to each other.
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Post by mattash » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:26 am

Poor South Gallia all the way down there by themselves. Should of been SOC

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Post by mattash » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:32 am

TVC 2XL
Logan
Athens
Marietta
Warren
Vinton County
Jackson
Meigs
Gallia Academy

TVC XL
NY
Fort Frye
Belpre
Wellston
Alexander
River Valley
Trimble
Oak Hill

TVC L
Fed Hock
Eastern
Wahama
Southern
South Gallia
Miller
Waterford
Frontier

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Post by Howard Cosell » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:50 am

mattash wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:32 am
TVC 2XL
Logan
Athens
Marietta
Warren
Vinton County
Jackson
Meigs
Gallia Academy

TVC XL
NY
Fort Frye
Belpre
Wellston
Alexander
River Valley
Trimble
Oak Hill

TVC L
Fed Hock
Eastern
Wahama
Southern
South Gallia
Miller
Waterford
Frontier
Matt
This is a great idea but it has one flaw. It makes too much sense lol. No way Athens and vinton county go for this. Vinton county would leave first. It’s too bad because this would create the best conference in SEO.
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Post by Dundas » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:19 am

Howard Cosell wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:50 am
mattash wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:32 am
TVC 2XL
Logan
Athens
Marietta
Warren
Vinton County
Jackson
Meigs
Gallia Academy

TVC XL
NY
Fort Frye
Belpre
Wellston
Alexander
River Valley
Trimble
Oak Hill

TVC L
Fed Hock
Eastern
Wahama
Southern
South Gallia
Miller
Waterford
Frontier
Matt
This is a great idea but it has one flaw. It makes too much sense lol. No way Athens and vinton county go for this. Vinton county would leave first. It’s too bad because this would create the best conference in SEO.
It could’ve happened back in 1967 but the SEOAL didn’t want Vinton County.

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Post by 93Bulldog » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:01 am

Ok, that's it!

PETA is really pissed. They are stepping in. It's one thing to beat a dead horse, but to abuse its corpse is just totally uncalled for.

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Post by Dundas » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:12 am

93Bulldog wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:01 am
Ok, that's it!

PETA is really pissed. They are stepping in. It's one thing to beat a dead horse, but to abuse its corpse is just totally uncalled for.

:mrgreen:
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Post by NY BUCK » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:49 am

I personally think the league is just fine how it is, I can see the Ohio adding one more team in Fort Frye or Oak Hill but I don’t see Oak Hill wanting to come anytime soon even being in the SOCII. Fort I don’t think would join if they got put in the Hocking.

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Post by mattash » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:07 am

93Bulldog wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:01 am
Ok, that's it!

PETA is really pissed. They are stepping in. It's one thing to beat a dead horse, but to abuse its corpse is just totally uncalled for.

:mrgreen:
Lol

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Post by ArmChairQB » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:13 am

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Post by bbtrucking.inc » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:00 am

mattash wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:32 am
TVC 2XL
Logan
Athens
Marietta
Warren
Vinton County
Jackson
Meigs
Gallia Academy

TVC XL
NY
Fort Frye
Belpre
Wellston
Alexander
River Valley
Trimble
Oak Hill

TVC L
Fed Hock
Eastern
Wahama
Southern
South Gallia
Miller
Waterford
Frontier
Waterford would rip everybody in that one a new one.

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Post by FANOSPORTS » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:03 pm

Howard Cosell wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:50 am
mattash wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:32 am
TVC 2XL
Logan
Athens
Marietta
Warren
Vinton County
Jackson
Meigs
Gallia Academy

TVC XL
NY
Fort Frye
Belpre
Wellston
Alexander
River Valley
Trimble
Oak Hill

TVC L
Fed Hock
Eastern
Wahama
Southern
South Gallia
Miller
Waterford
Frontier
Matt
This is a great idea but it has one flaw. It makes too much sense lol. No way Athens and vinton county go for this. Vinton county would leave first. It’s too bad because this would create the best conference in SEO.
Agree, this is the perfect set-up but will never happen. Playoff & tournament wise it would more prepare all teams involved for better competition in all sports.
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Post by Raider6309 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:08 pm

Well Jackson and Gallia are in pretty good leagues now. Fort Frye and Oak Hill will join the TVC. Warren needs to join the TVC. They have the votes to get in

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Post by koondoger » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:48 pm

Raider6309 wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:08 pm
Well Jackson and Gallia are in pretty good leagues now. Fort Frye and Oak Hill will join the TVC. Warren needs to join the TVC. They have the votes to get in
Don't forget Logan. I think they have the votes to get in this time. :mrgreen:
That's how teh koondoger sees it! :mrgreen:

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Post by VetteMan » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:26 pm

Probably won't happen, but sure looks good on paper. TVC would be the envy of a lot of other leagues. 24 schools, 8 in three Divisions, pretty well balanced, bringing the SEOL back, the TVC would be one of the better leagues around. And Matt, Logan would tell you it's the best idea that they have heard in a long time.

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Post by Teufelhunden » Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:09 pm

mattash wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:32 am
TVC 2XL
Logan
Athens
Marietta
Warren
Vinton County
Jackson
Meigs
Gallia Academy

TVC XL
NY
Fort Frye
Belpre
Wellston
Alexander
River Valley
Trimble
Oak Hill

TVC L
Fed Hock
Eastern
Wahama
Southern
South Gallia
Miller
Waterford
Frontier
I sure would love to be on that bus traveling from Frontier to South Gallia. LOL Take that trip to see 5 guys with no teeth wearing the stripes and spitting tobacco on your shoes while they grin at you during the pregame conference. It would be culture shock for those Cougar boys. He11 they don't even grease them up down in them parts. :oops:

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Post by enigmaax » Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:22 pm

VetteMan wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:26 pm
TVC would be the envy of a lot of other leagues.
Apparently it is the envy of a lot of people already. Numerous schools have asked to be admitted in the last five years (some multiple times) and there's been 23084937589674567498 about how the TVC let everyone in a 43 county radius in. These threads are never really about what is best for the TVC or its current members, but more about rescuing some other school/conference.

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Post by Dundas » Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:40 pm

enigmaax wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:22 pm
VetteMan wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:26 pm
TVC would be the envy of a lot of other leagues.
Apparently it is the envy of a lot of people already. Numerous schools have asked to be admitted in the last five years (some multiple times) and there's been 23084937589674567498 about how the TVC let everyone in a 43 county radius in. These threads are never really about what is best for the TVC or its current members, but more about rescuing some other school/conference.
I explained how it benefits the TVC. Creating an even number of schools in each division will eliminate the late non conference games that teams must schedule. It’s only a matter of time before teams start playing 9 game seasons.

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Post by dilligaf » Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:42 pm

I hope it never changes

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Post by Cats claw » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:14 pm

I have never heard of anyone having trouble finding 2 non league games most have a rivalry game for 1 of them anyways

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Post by Dundas » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:14 pm

I’ve given specific points as to why it would be a benefit to go to an even numbered division format. What are the reasons against it, other than “I don’t want change”?

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Post by Dundas » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:17 pm

Cats claw wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:14 pm
I have never heard of anyone having trouble finding 2 non league games most have a rivalry game for 1 of them anyways
VC has had a difficult time filling week 7. Ny has had a difficult time filling non conference weeks. Every conference in SEO will be even numbered within 2 years and those belpre/valley, VC/Minford, Alex/Warren etc, will not be possible anymore. It’s about to get even more difficult if the divisions stay at an odd number. Especially for the teams that have a late (week 5-10) non conference game.

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Post by Dundas » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:20 pm

Dundas wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:17 pm
Cats claw wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:14 pm
I have never heard of anyone having trouble finding 2 non league games most have a rivalry game for 1 of them anyways
VC has had a difficult time filling week 7. Ny has had a difficult time filling non conference weeks. Every conference in SEO will be even numbered within 2 years and those belpre/valley, VC/Minford, Alex/Warren etc, will not be possible anymore. It’s about to get even more difficult if the divisions stay at an odd number. Especially for the teams that have a late (week 5-10) non conference game.
Again, I give specific details and information as to why it will be in our best interest to move to even divisions. Does the Hocking not want Fort Frye? If that’s the case, then add FF to the Ohio so at least one conference doesn’t have the scheduling issue and let the Hocking travel to Cincinnati, Columbus or only schedule 9 games. I for one, do not want that for my school.

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Post by Cats claw » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:30 pm

Dundas wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:20 pm
Dundas wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:17 pm
Cats claw wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:14 pm
I have never heard of anyone having trouble finding 2 non league games most have a rivalry game for 1 of them anyways
VC has had a difficult time filling week 7. Ny has had a difficult time filling non conference weeks. Every conference in SEO will be even numbered within 2 years and those belpre/valley, VC/Minford, Alex/Warren etc, will not be possible anymore. It’s about to get even more difficult if the divisions stay at an odd number. Especially for the teams that have a late (week 5-10) non conference game.
Again, I give specific details and information as to why it will be in our best interest to move to even divisions. Does the Hocking not want Fort Frye? If that’s the case, then add FF to the Ohio so at least one conference doesn’t have the scheduling issue and let the Hocking travel to Cincinnati, Columbus or only schedule 9 games. I for one, do not want that for my school.
Sounds like more of the Ohio division problem but I see your point

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