TVC Expansion

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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by Teufelhunden » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:05 am

fortdawg wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:44 am
Dundas I was commenting on another poster's idea but I can respond to yours.
Who plays Fort Frye and Oak Hill now?
That's the key to getting in.
People were playing Wahama and SG in all sports before they were accepted.
I don't see that with Fort and Oak Hill.
Let us stick with the Hocking for a minute and you tell me who besides Belpre and Waterford plays Fort in football?
Federal doesn't count.
Waterford plays them in everything---but since the two schools are close enough they can see each other that isn't surprising.
I don't follow Belpre basketball close enough to know if they play them home and away or at all----but I don't know of another school that plays them.
Miller could be in Beverly (their buses go through it to get to Waterford) in an hour and in the 23 plus years I've been up there they haven't played Fort in anything.
The drive to Beverly wouldn't be bad for Federal, Eastern, Southern, or Wahama and none of them play Fort in much of anything.
If you want to kill a league start forcing coaches to play teams they don't anything to do with.
They start to complain and suddenly the league breaks up. See the SEOAL if you doubt me.
Let me give you this example, let's take Miller football for the last 4 years: 0-4 against Trimble; 1-3 against Waterford: 2-2 against Belpre, Wahama, SG, and Southern, and we fared pretty well against the rest of the league.
Does anybody believe we or any of the other teams in the league would have beaten Fort Frye over that time period besides Trimble?
So unless your last name is Faires, you are basically adding a loss to your schedule---do you really think people are lining up to do that?
Good points Fortdawg. But I would just once like to see the faces on those young Cadets as they step off the bus down in Crown City after the 3 hour trip and get a look at the grinning, tobacco spitting gents wearing the stripes. :D



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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by one Oak » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:48 am

I posted above that Oak Hill is playing Nelsonville York in 2019 and Wellston in 2020. In basketball, we are playing four TVC Ohio teams this year.

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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by Older bird » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:21 pm

The problem with FF is they too small for Ohio and too good for Hocking. Athens is trying to beef up their sched and I think will try even more n next few years. If Vinton can keep their turnaround they don’t want a smaller school either. NY put them on non conference schedule so why add them to league. Geography they would fit Hocking (H2O ford already n) but just not going to happen

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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by Older bird » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:22 pm

Older bird wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:21 pm
The problem with FF is they too small for Ohio and too good for Hocking. Athens is trying to beef up their sched and I think will try even more n next few years. If Vinton can keep their turnaround they don’t want a smaller school either. NY put them on non conference schedule so why add them to league. Geography they would fit Hocking (H2O ford already n) but just not going to happen
And in my opinion River Valley needs to leave Ohio for everyone benefit

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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by bullfrog93 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:34 pm

Older bird wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:22 pm
Older bird wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:21 pm
The problem with FF is they too small for Ohio and too good for Hocking. Athens is trying to beef up their sched and I think will try even more n next few years. If Vinton can keep their turnaround they don’t want a smaller school either. NY put them on non conference schedule so why add them to league. Geography they would fit Hocking (H2O ford already n) but just not going to happen
And in my opinion River Valley needs to leave Ohio for everyone benefit
Yes, please! And the sooner the better. Killing playoff points.

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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by NY BUCK » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:38 pm

bullfrog93 wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:34 pm
Older bird wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:22 pm
Older bird wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:21 pm
The problem with FF is they too small for Ohio and too good for Hocking. Athens is trying to beef up their sched and I think will try even more n next few years. If Vinton can keep their turnaround they don’t want a smaller school either. NY put them on non conference schedule so why add them to league. Geography they would fit Hocking (H2O ford already n) but just not going to happen
And in my opinion River Valley needs to leave Ohio for everyone benefit
Yes, please! And the sooner the better. Killing playoff points.
Agree.. I have been saying this for a good while. But they would have to leave themselves, for any change to take place and I don’t see that happening.

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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by Older bird » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:42 pm

Maybe they volunteer to go to Hocking

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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by bullfrog93 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:45 pm

Older bird wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:42 pm
Maybe they volunteer to go to Hocking
Yes, the Hocking could use another excuse to go to Golden Corral anyway, and they don't seem to mind the long bus trips and the zero playoff points garnered. :mrgreen:

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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by NYBuckeye96 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:40 pm

Older bird wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:21 pm
The problem with FF is they too small for Ohio and too good for Hocking. Athens is trying to beef up their sched and I think will try even more n next few years. If Vinton can keep their turnaround they don’t want a smaller school either. NY put them on non conference schedule so why add them to league. Geography they would fit Hocking (H2O ford already n) but just not going to happen
Fort Frye is the same size as Nelsonville-York. Is NY too small for the TVC OHIO? NY has winning records against every other team in the TVC OHIO and has the most conference championships.

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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by OSU22 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:06 pm

NYBuckeye96 wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:40 pm
Older bird wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:21 pm
The problem with FF is they too small for Ohio and too good for Hocking. Athens is trying to beef up their sched and I think will try even more n next few years. If Vinton can keep their turnaround they don’t want a smaller school either. NY put them on non conference schedule so why add them to league. Geography they would fit Hocking (H2O ford already n) but just not going to happen
Fort Frye is the same size as Nelsonville-York. Is NY too small for the TVC OHIO? NY has winning records against every other team in the TVC OHIO and has the most conference championships.
LOL YES! NY is too small for the Ohio in my opinion. NY should be in the Hocking, atleast in every other sport.......they stay in the Ohio for one reason. Can you guess what it is? lol

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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by fortdawg » Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:58 pm

OSU22 I think you may very well see that in the future among several of the schools.

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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by NY BUCK » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:02 pm

NY may be to small for the Ohio but that doesn’t mean NY shouldn’t be in the Ohio I don’t think change is needed in that regard, specially in Football. NY definitely does more than hold their own being the smallest school. Other sports though I can probably see but I don’t think change is needed.

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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by shelton » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:14 pm

OHIO

East
Warren, NY, Alex, Fort Frye

West
Meigs, RV, OH, Wellston, VC

HOCKING

North
Waterford, Trimble, Miller, Parkersburg Catholic, Belpre

South
Federal Hocking, Eastern, Southern, Wahama

This format would drop Athens and South Gallia. Add Parkersburg Catholic, Oak Hill, Warren and Fort Frye. This isn’t necessarily expansion but it’s realignment and I think it’s an interesting idea( that will never happen)

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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by dilligaf » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:45 pm

Now. Are we trying to run ny out of the tvc ohio to make more room for bigger schools

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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by Poo Bear » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:01 pm

dilligaf wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:45 pm
Now. Are we trying to run ny out of the tvc ohio to make more room for bigger schools
FYI , Jackson is very happy in the FAC. Thanks

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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by Orange and Brown » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:01 pm

NY BUCK wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:02 pm
NY may be to small for the Ohio but that doesn’t mean NY shouldn’t be in the Ohio I don’t think change is needed in that regard, specially in Football. NY definitely does more than hold their own being the smallest school. Other sports though I can probably see but I don’t think change is needed.
We can't compete year in and year out in the other sports. We need to stay in the Ohio for Football but we need to be in the Hocking for the other sports.
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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by Orange and Brown » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:02 pm

shelton wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:14 pm
OHIO

East
Warren, NY, Alex, Fort Frye

West
Meigs, RV, OH, Wellston, VC

HOCKING

North
Waterford, Trimble, Miller, Parkersburg Catholic, Belpre

South
Federal Hocking, Eastern, Southern, Wahama

This format would drop Athens and South Gallia. Add Parkersburg Catholic, Oak Hill, Warren and Fort Frye. This isn’t necessarily expansion but it’s realignment and I think it’s an interesting idea( that will never happen)
We don't need 4 taml divisions.
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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by NY BUCK » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:10 pm

Orange and Brown wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:01 pm
NY BUCK wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:02 pm
NY may be to small for the Ohio but that doesn’t mean NY shouldn’t be in the Ohio I don’t think change is needed in that regard, specially in Football. NY definitely does more than hold their own being the smallest school. Other sports though I can probably see but I don’t think change is needed.
We can't compete year in and year out in the other sports. We need to stay in the Ohio for Football but we need to be in the Hocking for the other sports.
I can agree with that.

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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by shelton » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:25 pm

Orange and Brown wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:02 pm
shelton wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:14 pm
OHIO

East
Warren, NY, Alex, Fort Frye

West
Meigs, RV, OH, Wellston, VC

HOCKING

North
Waterford, Trimble, Miller, Parkersburg Catholic, Belpre

South
Federal Hocking, Eastern, Southern, Wahama

This format would drop Athens and South Gallia. Add Parkersburg Catholic, Oak Hill, Warren and Fort Frye. This isn’t necessarily expansion but it’s realignment and I think it’s an interesting idea( that will never happen)
We don't need 4 taml divisions.
What about with out the splits?? Just Ohio/hocking... sane teams?

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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by Orange and Brown » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:31 pm

shelton wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:25 pm
Orange and Brown wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:02 pm
shelton wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:14 pm
OHIO

East
Warren, NY, Alex, Fort Frye

West
Meigs, RV, OH, Wellston, VC

HOCKING

North
Waterford, Trimble, Miller, Parkersburg Catholic, Belpre

South
Federal Hocking, Eastern, Southern, Wahama

This format would drop Athens and South Gallia. Add Parkersburg Catholic, Oak Hill, Warren and Fort Frye. This isn’t necessarily expansion but it’s realignment and I think it’s an interesting idea( that will never happen)
We don't need 4 taml divisions.
What about with out the splits?? Just Ohio/hocking... sane teams?
Now your back to an odd number of teams which is the only problem the TVC has now.
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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by NY BUCK » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:44 pm

Only thing really needed here is one more team in the Ohio (Fort Frye, Oak Hill, etc..) Other than that it’s a pretty well put together conference.

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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by 55buckeyes98 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:48 pm

My idea:. You could swap Hocking teams around if u want

OHIO
NY
Alex
Meigs
Vinton
Wellston
Athens

Hocking
Fort Frye
Oak Hill
Trimble
Belpre
River Valley
Waterford

Hocking B
Miller
Fed Hock
Southern
Eastern
Wahama
South Galia

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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by Orange and Brown » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:02 pm

Just so everyone knows. You cannot quote someone and change their original post.
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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by dilligaf » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:17 pm

I like it 55 buckeye

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Re: TVC Expansion

Post by shelton » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:40 pm

Orange and Brown wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:02 pm
Just so everyone knows. You cannot quote someone and change their original post.
Sorry... didn’t mean to make it look like that. I think I accidentally typed inside of the quote I’m not sure exactly what I did but my last post turned out weird... I see that it has been deleted

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