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Ironmen#2588 wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:37 am Do you really think west could play with jackson there "Westfan" then why won't west schedule jackson then and play them. Only team that can hang with jackson and play at that level, Is Burg and Chillicothe. honestly I'd love to see burg move up to Div. 4, but probably won't happen anytime soon if ever happen. Unless they start winning multiple state titles in the next few years. Then the OHSAA will bring them up because the way they are playing.
This year absolutely West could play with Jackson. Some years no. Jackson is a much bigger school. That's why divisions are divided by enrollment.

Winning state titles has nothing to do with your OHSAA Division


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Westfan wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:44 am
Ironmen#2588 wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:37 am Do you really think west could play with jackson there "Westfan" then why won't west schedule jackson then and play them. Only team that can hang with jackson and play at that level, Is Burg and Chillicothe. honestly I'd love to see burg move up to Div. 4, but probably won't happen anytime soon if ever happen. Unless they start winning multiple state titles in the next few years. Then the OHSAA will bring them up because the way they are playing.
This year absolutely West could play with Jackson. Some years no. Jackson is a much bigger school. That's why divisions are divided by enrollment.

Winning state titles has nothing to do with your OHSAA Division
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Westfan wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:44 am
Ironmen#2588 wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:37 am Do you really think west could play with jackson there "Westfan" then why won't west schedule jackson then and play them. Only team that can hang with jackson and play at that level, Is Burg and Chillicothe. honestly I'd love to see burg move up to Div. 4, but probably won't happen anytime soon if ever happen. Unless they start winning multiple state titles in the next few years. Then the OHSAA will bring them up because the way they are playing.
This year absolutely West could play with Jackson. Some years no. Jackson is a much bigger school. That's why divisions are divided by enrollment.

Winning state titles has nothing to do with your OHSAA Division
Once every 3 or 5 years they could possibly compete with jackson the first half. Exactly they are a bigger school. never mind I said that. But still if west wants to prove how good they really are then they schedule a few bigger schools every once in awhile


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Ironmen#2588 wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:03 am Once every 3 or 5 years they could possibly compete with jackson the first half. Exactly they are a bigger school. never mind I said that. But still if west wants to prove how good they really are then they schedule a few bigger schools every once in awhile
Compete for a half? You should move to Wheelersburg.

West doesn't need to prove anything to anyone.


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Westfan wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:19 am
Ironmen#2588 wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:03 am Once every 3 or 5 years they could possibly compete with jackson the first half. Exactly they are a bigger school. never mind I said that. But still if west wants to prove how good they really are then they schedule a few bigger schools every once in awhile
Compete for a half? You should move to Wheelersburg.

West doesn't need to prove anything to anyone.
What does Burg have to do with this Westfan? You must be green with envy.


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Jolly P(irate) wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:24 am
Westfan wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:19 am
Ironmen#2588 wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:03 am Once every 3 or 5 years they could possibly compete with jackson the first half. Exactly they are a bigger school. never mind I said that. But still if west wants to prove how good they really are then they schedule a few bigger schools every once in awhile
Compete for a half? You should move to Wheelersburg.

West doesn't need to prove anything to anyone.
What does Burg have to do with this Westfan? You must be green with envy.
He sounds like he would fit in well. Easy transition.


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Westfan wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:28 am
Jolly P(irate) wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:24 am
Westfan wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:19 am

Compete for a half? You should move to Wheelersburg.

West doesn't need to prove anything to anyone.
What does Burg have to do with this Westfan? You must be green with envy.
He sounds like he would fit in well. Easy transition.
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Jolly P(irate) wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:30 am
Westfan wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:28 am
Jolly P(irate) wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:24 am
What does Burg have to do with this Westfan? You must be green with envy.
He sounds like he would fit in well. Easy transition.
Winning is a desired trait.
My point is that west has a good program but the program doesn't play at the level of jackson. Only school around is Burg other than schools north of Jackson. Yeah I did say only for a half, the 1st half. Then jackson would run away with it in the 2nd half. if you think west can play with jackson then let's hope they schedule them and let them prove it and see what kind of game it would be. That's the point


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Westfan wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:44 am
Ironmen#2588 wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:37 am Do you really think west could play with jackson there "Westfan" then why won't west schedule jackson then and play them. Only team that can hang with jackson and play at that level, Is Burg and Chillicothe. honestly I'd love to see burg move up to Div. 4, but probably won't happen anytime soon if ever happen. Unless they start winning multiple state titles in the next few years. Then the OHSAA will bring them up because the way they are playing.
This year absolutely West could play with Jackson. Some years no. Jackson is a much bigger school. That's why divisions are divided by enrollment.

Winning state titles has nothing to do with your OHSAA Division
West definitely competes with Jackson this year, and if you look at a block of time over 15-20 years very likely compete with them > 50%. Jackson this year I think are missing some pieces for another run in post season or a FAC league championship. I think there are more teams beside Burg and Chilli that can hang with them in the area and Hillsboro this week could be one, but West I think could for sure. We will see a little more about them with Waverly and then in Week 10 when they come here. Enrollment is what makes the determination for Divisions.


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Abe Froman wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:26 am
Westfan wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:44 am
Ironmen#2588 wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:37 am Do you really think west could play with jackson there "Westfan" then why won't west schedule jackson then and play them. Only team that can hang with jackson and play at that level, Is Burg and Chillicothe. honestly I'd love to see burg move up to Div. 4, but probably won't happen anytime soon if ever happen. Unless they start winning multiple state titles in the next few years. Then the OHSAA will bring them up because the way they are playing.
This year absolutely West could play with Jackson. Some years no. Jackson is a much bigger school. That's why divisions are divided by enrollment.

Winning state titles has nothing to do with your OHSAA Division
West definitely competes with Jackson this year, and if you look at a block of time over 15-20 years very likely compete with them > 50%. Jackson this year I think are missing some pieces for another run in post season or a FAC league championship. I think there are more teams beside Burg and Chilli that can hang with them in the area and Hillsboro this week could be one, but West I think could for sure. We will see a little more about them with Waverly and then in Week 10 when they come here. Enrollment is what makes the determination for Divisions.
If that is legit and true, then why won't west schedule jackson then? if west thinks they can play with jackson, then schedule jackson, it's that simple. Teams won't play jackson because who they are, they talk all the time and say that they can beat jackson but they won't schedule them to play them. Why do you think jackson couldn't get into any of the local leagues in the area when the SEOAL was over, no wanted them to come in to their league. That's why they had to go form their own league and I will definitely see in the future years of schools being added to that league. And most important piece they lost to a broken leg in Evans. Who was an game changer every time he was on the field.


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Ironmen#2588 wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:29 am If that is legit and true, then why won't west schedule jackson then? if west thinks they can play with jackson, then schedule jackson, it's that simple. Teams won't play jackson because who they are, they talk all the time and say that they can beat jackson but they won't schedule them to play them. Why do you think jackson couldn't get into any of the local leagues in the area when the SEOAL was over, no wanted them to come in to their league. That's why they had to go form their own league and I will definitely see in the future years of schools being added to that league. And most important piece they lost to a broken leg in Evans. Who was an game changer every time he was on the field.
Why don't you call our AD and ask him?

Jackson is D3. The SOCII is a D5 league. They don't belong. And more than anything, the long bus rides late at night for basketball, soccer, tennis, whatever have as much to do why they weren't voted in.


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Westfan wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:41 am
Ironmen#2588 wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:29 am If that is legit and true, then why won't west schedule jackson then? if west thinks they can play with jackson, then schedule jackson, it's that simple. Teams won't play jackson because who they are, they talk all the time and say that they can beat jackson but they won't schedule them to play them. Why do you think jackson couldn't get into any of the local leagues in the area when the SEOAL was over, no wanted them to come in to their league. That's why they had to go form their own league and I will definitely see in the future years of schools being added to that league. And most important piece they lost to a broken leg in Evans. Who was an game changer every time he was on the field.
Why don't you call our AD and ask him?

Jackson is D3. The SOCII is a D5 league. They don't belong. And more than anything, the long bus rides late at night for basketball, soccer, tennis, whatever have as much to do why they weren't voted in.
nah I'm good, think jackson would rather play bigger and better schools anyway, thanks for the offer tho. But you can have your AD call out AD and ask if he will schedule West since you all think you can play with us. Long bus rides? They are going back and forth to jackson from Burg, Portsmouth, and those areas. Their not driving to Columbus or Cleveland. It's Like an hour if that going to some places, so don't say it's the drive because it's not.


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Westfan wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:41 am
Ironmen#2588 wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:29 am If that is legit and true, then why won't west schedule jackson then? if west thinks they can play with jackson, then schedule jackson, it's that simple. Teams won't play jackson because who they are, they talk all the time and say that they can beat jackson but they won't schedule them to play them. Why do you think jackson couldn't get into any of the local leagues in the area when the SEOAL was over, no wanted them to come in to their league. That's why they had to go form their own league and I will definitely see in the future years of schools being added to that league. And most important piece they lost to a broken leg in Evans. Who was an game changer every time he was on the field.
Why don't you call our AD and ask him?

Jackson is D3. The SOCII is a D5 league. They don't belong. And more than anything, the long bus rides late at night for basketball, soccer, tennis, whatever have as much to do why they weren't voted in.
Waverly is DIV.


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Westfan wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:44 am
Ironmen#2588 wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:37 am Do you really think west could play with jackson there "Westfan" then why won't west schedule jackson then and play them. Only team that can hang with jackson and play at that level, Is Burg and Chillicothe. honestly I'd love to see burg move up to Div. 4, but probably won't happen anytime soon if ever happen. Unless they start winning multiple state titles in the next few years. Then the OHSAA will bring them up because the way they are playing.
This year absolutely West could play with Jackson. Some years no. Jackson is a much bigger school. That's why divisions are divided by enrollment.

Winning state titles has nothing to do with your OHSAA Division
Every 2 years ohsaa does a competitive balance meaning if some schools are dominating their division no matter the number of boys in the school they move them to a bigger division just ask Bishop Hartley they should be in Div 5 as far as enrollment goes but since in the past 4 or 5 years they have won state championships in D5 and D4 2 years running they got bumped up again to D3 and Coldwater should be D5 but due to competitive balance they got moved to D6 to compete with Marion Local


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You are mistaken my friend. That is not what competitive balance is at all. Competitive balance takes into account the kids that don't reside inside your school district, or a kid that moved into the district after 7th grade. For example....a student that resides in franklin furnace but goes to school at Wheelersburg counts as 3 instead of 1.


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scott1297 wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:36 pm
Westfan wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:44 am
Ironmen#2588 wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:37 am Do you really think west could play with jackson there "Westfan" then why won't west schedule jackson then and play them. Only team that can hang with jackson and play at that level, Is Burg and Chillicothe. honestly I'd love to see burg move up to Div. 4, but probably won't happen anytime soon if ever happen. Unless they start winning multiple state titles in the next few years. Then the OHSAA will bring them up because the way they are playing.
This year absolutely West could play with Jackson. Some years no. Jackson is a much bigger school. That's why divisions are divided by enrollment.

Winning state titles has nothing to do with your OHSAA Division
Every 2 years ohsaa does a competitive balance meaning if some schools are dominating their division no matter the number of boys in the school they move them to a bigger division just ask Bishop Hartley they should be in Div 5 as far as enrollment goes but since in the past 4 or 5 years they have won state championships in D5 and D4 2 years running they got bumped up again to D3 and Coldwater should be D5 but due to competitive balance they got moved to D6 to compete with Marion Local
Yea.......No


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scott1297 wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:36 pm
Westfan wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:44 am
Ironmen#2588 wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:37 am Do you really think west could play with jackson there "Westfan" then why won't west schedule jackson then and play them. Only team that can hang with jackson and play at that level, Is Burg and Chillicothe. honestly I'd love to see burg move up to Div. 4, but probably won't happen anytime soon if ever happen. Unless they start winning multiple state titles in the next few years. Then the OHSAA will bring them up because the way they are playing.
This year absolutely West could play with Jackson. Some years no. Jackson is a much bigger school. That's why divisions are divided by enrollment.

Winning state titles has nothing to do with your OHSAA Division
Every 2 years ohsaa does a competitive balance meaning if some schools are dominating their division no matter the number of boys in the school they move them to a bigger division just ask Bishop Hartley they should be in Div 5 as far as enrollment goes but since in the past 4 or 5 years they have won state championships in D5 and D4 2 years running they got bumped up again to D3 and Coldwater should be D5 but due to competitive balance they got moved to D6 to compete with Marion Local
Not even close Scott.


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If that was the case scott..Coldwater wouldn't be in 6 they should be in 4 ..


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imagine if jackson loses the 8-12 boys which what makes them Div 3. Imagine if they lost those kids and became Div 4.


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Ironmen#2588 wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:26 am imagine if jackson loses the 8-12 boys which what makes them Div 3. Imagine if they lost those kids and became Div 4.
That Region is pretty loaded too. Lol. But would definitely help Jackson.


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