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Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:37 am

AS IT APPEARS WE ARE KEEPING MARV. SO NO SENSE IN EVEN WASTING TIME ABOUT THAT. I WANTED HIM GONE AS WELL. WHAT ARE OUR DRAFT NEEDS,I'D LOVE TO SEE SOME IDEAS ON HOW TO GET THINGS PAST A FIRST ROUND PLAYOFF GAME.AND WHERE IN TARNATION IS MY OLE BENGALIN' BUDDY ACE BEEN. WE MISS YOU ACE.


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Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:25 pm

SLOW DOWN YA'LL, CAN'T KEEP UP WITH THE POSTS, LOL. I FEEL THE SAME WAY RIGHT NOW.
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Post by farmer » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:37 pm

First thing is which players are not going to be resigned or retiring.

Like the O Line you have the 2 young tackles but you have the 2 old tackles starting. You can only keep so many. Kicker but not a priority in the draft. Then McCarron what may happen.

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Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:25 am

I think we lose aj, and definitely need a long toed kicker.
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Post by farmer » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:34 pm

The need of DB is always there with the pass happy teams. Can't have to many quality DB's. Much like Seattle who still had good reserves when starters were out.
With the high pick the Bengals need to pick the best available player available. Which could make the Bengals think about a player like RB Leonard Fournette. Since RB's had been dropping in past years but Dallas picking Zeke last year made a big difference. Fournette if healthy could be a big play maker. Worth the pick if available. Bengals do need someone besides Green who can break a big play. Didn't like hearing Green was missing meetings at the end of the year. Not sure if true.

Offensive lineman are needed depending how the coaches feel about the two young tackles. Guard and center is more of a need.
WR need of a deep threat and play maker.
DLine help
More looking for depth. If McCarron leaves a backup QB.

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Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:38 am

great observations farmer.
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Post by farmer » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:14 pm

One mock draft has Alabama LB Reuban Foster going to the Bengals. Which would be a big help. Athletic ability size and strength would add to the defense.
Then another one has a LB/DE from Missouri Charles Harris. Not to sold on his fit as compared to Foster.
So LB seems to be what some think is a need.

One to think about on defense if available is Jabril Peppers from UM. With his size and speed moving him to safety. Then allowing him more freedom to make plays and help on running plays. Then add some plays on offense would add excitement to the Bengals offense.

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Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:31 am

WE NEED A BUNCH THIS YEAR. I'M HAVIN A SINKIN FEELIN ABOUT A MASS EXODUS OVER KEEPIN MARV.
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Post by farmer » Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:56 am

YOU'RE TIGER BAIT wrote:WE NEED A BUNCH THIS YEAR. I'M HAVIN A SINKIN FEELIN ABOUT A MASS EXODUS OVER KEEPIN MARV.
Problem is many players like Marv as a person. A hidden problem maybe AJ Green if he was missing meetings and this happened before. Sure he was hurt this year but a diva WR mixed in with some of the other characters not a good mix.

As for the kicker I looked at one rating system for the draft only 3 may get drafted. Just have to see how they work out on a NFL field first before even thinking about it.

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Post by farmer » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:02 am

engals 2017 free agents
Player Pos. 2016 Team Type Current APY Guarantees
Andrew Whitworth LT Bengals UFA $9,000,000 $2,000,000
Domata Peko 4-3 DT Bengals UFA $4,500,000 $4,400,000
Brandon LaFell WR Bengals UFA $2,500,000 $1,000,000
Dre Kirkpatrick CB Bengals UFA $2,155,749 $7,840,065
Karlos Dansby 4-3 OLB Bengals UFA $2,000,000 $700,000
Kevin Zeitler RG Bengals UFA $1,886,050 $6,125,446
Eric Winston RT Bengals UFA $1,090,000 $80,000
Cedric Peerman RB Bengals UFA $1,065,000 $250,000
Margus Hunt 4-3 DE Bengals UFA $917,775 $1,049,892
Wallace Gilberry 4-3 DE Bengals UFA $885,000 $0
Brandon Thompson 4-3 DT Bengals UFA $840,000 $50,000
Chykie Brown CB Bengals UFA $760,000 $0
Randy Bullock K Bengals UFA $675,000 $0
T.J. Johnson C Bengals RFA $600,000 $0
Rex Burkhead RB Bengals UFA $565,550 $102,200

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Post by farmer » Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:02 pm

After seeing the list of who could go both Lines need work. The O Line is Whitworth going to resign. He is close to the decline in skills. Which is why the Bengals drafted Cedric Ogbuehi who is still having some trouble. If they do not think he can overcome that maybe think about moving him to guard. Winston finished his 10th year so how long he wants to play. Good team player and helpful to the younger players. Fischer started playing better and moved around some as an extra blocker in short yardage. Zietler played well but will want big money. Which he probably will go elsewhere to get. Center Free agent TJ Johnson took over with a few games to go from Bodine. The other guard position was not consistent.

The Bengals need to improve coaching to get more out of their players. Always value in the middle rounds. If one of the high rated tackles are there in the first round they need to think about it and shifting players around.

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Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:04 am

burkhead is quickly becoming one of my favorite bengals , love watching him as one of the children of the corn at Nebraska,and the giants are trying very hard to get whitworth. would hate to lose him, he's a lifelong Bengal and one of the best. but he is getting long in the tooth by nfl standards. zeitler is awesome and deserves to get a raise as well as burkhead. really don't want to lose aj, but had a bad feeling about him for a while now.i'd dump pacman and burfict on to somebody else like hot lead. pacman is warshed up. and burfict may be the best linebacker in the nfl, if you could put a shock collar on him at the whistle.and the coaching just stinks, we have had as much talent last 4/5 years as anybody in the league. need a bellcow of a running back. and some new linemen.
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Post by farmer » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:12 pm

Burkhead played well when he had the chance on offense but even better all year on special teams. With Brossard coming off an injury he would be a good player to have. But good RB's are able to be found all the time.
McCarron has value but the Otzwieller in Houston will make some teams want to see more on field before overpaying.
Crap Man played very good times but then you deal with the Crap.
Berfect played very well at times but will always have the chance to go off. Much like former NBA player Dennis Rodman.
Zietler will the Bengals pay up and will he think the Bengals will turn around. Which can also be said about Whitworth. The Giants saw the weak link at OT and he could be a big help in a Super Bowl push. Since Whitworth does not have to many good years left.

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Post by mattash » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:42 pm

Going to be a new team next year. We won't keep half

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Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:48 am

I got that same feeling boss
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Post by farmer » Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:40 pm

A lot of talk about Whitworth going elsewhere. Nick Mangold was released by the Jets. Getting Mangold would give Whitworth reason to stay. If the young tackles are ready to start moving Whitworth back to Guard. Sure would give options to beef up that offensive line.

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Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:14 am

I would love to snag mangold, but he's getting long in the tooth as well. I really dig whitworth a career long Bengal. but he's got a best maybe 2/3 years left. would love to see him get a ring before he leaves.
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Post by farmer » Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:58 pm

Yes he is getting older but this team will not stay together for to many more years. Mangold is a good option for now. Getting a good young center can learn from him. Getting Mangold can help to keep key players and maybe bring in free agents. As free agent place kicker from LA Rams Greg Zuelein would be great for the kicking game.

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Post by GalliaGrad78 » Mon Feb 27, 2017 5:20 am

Marv needs to go.

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Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:53 am

I AGREE ABOUT MARV AND MANGOLD.
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Post by mattash » Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:23 am

Lafell 2 years 10 Mil today

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Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:50 am

please cut pac man n burfict.
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mattash wrote:Lafell 2 years 10 Mil today

cool.
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Post by farmer » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:48 am

Pac Man and Burfect are not going anywhere unless the Bengals have someone to replace them. The Free Agent signing is going on. Will the Bengals sign more of their players or sign a new player? The QB signing and run will bring up AJ's name again. Which gives the Bengals options as well as to replace AJ if he leaves. What happens the next few days will show the direction needed when the draft comes up.
Just heard Whitworth may go to the Rams. Ouch

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Post by farmer » Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:04 pm

Hopefully the young tackles can play with Whitworth leaving. He was good last year but for how long. Losing Zietler to the Browns need a replacement. Signing Kirkpatrick not a big fan. He has not come close to what he was thought to be when drafted. To many what he was thinking plays. Now depends on who the sign.

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Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:06 am

I'M ABOUT FED UP WITH MY BENGALS ----- WE LOST 2 OF THE BEST LINEMAN IN THE NFL TO FREE AGENCY. AND 2 I DEARLY LOVED TO WATCH PLAY. FORMER LSU TIGER AND LIFETIME BENGAL ANDREW WHITWORTH, AND FORMER WISCONSIN BADGER KEVIN ZEITLER. WHO HAS PLAYED HIS CAREER WITH THE BENGALS. WE KEEP MARVIN LEWIS AND LET THESE 2 WALK. THAT'S A REAL HEAD SCRATCHER TO ME.
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Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:10 am

I thought dre was too small from jump street, big hit the browns of all people getting zeitler. we can't afford to lose aj I really dig him. but he's a starter on another nfl team. and we know it.and it breaks my heart to lose whitworth, who is one of the classiest players in the nfl. especially if he hooks up with the rams. if we're going to lose him. I'd like to see him go to a contender and win a ring before he hangs his cleats up.
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Post by farmer » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:47 am

The Bengals line goes down but the Browns make upgrades. It is not like Bengals develop talent on the offensive line. Not many players who can come right in and play in the draft. With all the team talent the Bengals have had the last 2 years. The Bengals did not make a move in the playoffs and keeping Marv. Like them or not the Patriots get the most out of talent, Then to not hold on to them to long. The big difference is the QB and the Staff.
The Bengals staff is not close to what it was a few years ago. Having a top defense and many parts on the offense.

The Bengals did a great job getting players in the draft the last 5 years but right now feels like it use to after the draft of poor players and team fit. They have to spend money smartly to win playoff games. Maybe their plan is something we can not see right now. So it may work out just not much faith in that right now many fans.

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Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:02 pm

I agree farmer. we are a sinking ship now. in my opinion not wanting to better ourselves.
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Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:36 pm

looks like we lost domata peko to the broncos.
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Post by farmer » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:46 pm

Peko at times got pushed around. Age is limiting his effectiveness. Good in a rotation.

Bengals are sitting back not doing much in this signing period. The only thing helping the Bengals is having a poor record last year gets them an easier schedule. Unless they get great production from players in the draft. I do not see them making the big jump like the Falcons did this past season. Unless the Bengals can work some kind of magic all season and playoffs. Sure wouldn't put money on it right now.

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Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:27 am

I always liked the guy myself. everybody gets pushed around sometimes when you are dealing with men from 300 to 340ish during the season. loved to fire up the crowd. I have a feeling we are riding a sinking ship. and I hate that with the talent we have had the last 5 to 6 years.
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Post by farmer » Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:00 am

Lost back up DE Markus HUNT to the Colts. Played pretty good on the run last year. Not the best pass rusher but his height blocking passes and kicks.

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Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:34 am

MARGUS HUNT WAS ANOTHER GUY I REALLY LIKED. I REMEMBER WATCHING HIM PLAY AT SMU. I HAD NOT HEARD ABOUT HIM.
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Post by farmer » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:44 am

Hunt finally got on the field more on defense last year after spending most of his playing time on special teams. I always thought they should have used him more before. The Bengals are hoping that Andrew Billings drafted last year and Marcus Hardison drafted the year before can be healthy. Hopefully the can. Kind of like the Bengals are thinking with the two young offensive tackles.

Word out former Bengal Andre Smith is looking to comeback to help out the offensive line. Smith never came close to living up to the hype coming out of Alabama as an offensive tackle with skills to put together a career close to former Bengal Anthony Munoz. Then talk about former Oklahoma running back Mixon talking with the Bengals. Who is a very good player but with the headache of hitting the woman while in high school.

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