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Re: 2022 Cincinnati Reds
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:08 am
by Omega
BigGuy10 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 8:12 am
Geronimo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 7:10 am
Reds still might get out last place? Seen some where they won 9 out of last 13 games ?
They have a good chance to jump out of last and even potentially to 3rd! Just depends on how the trade deadline goes and what team wants to show up..
We still have 6 vs the Marlins, 3 with the Nationals AND Rockies, and 12 with our divisional rivals Cubs and 10 vs the Pirates. If we can find a way to win roughly 20/34 of those games or more, I like our chances to get out of 5th place. But, I guess we'll see
Since their disastrous start, the Reds are 34-36, a .485 winning percentage, so third place is not out of reach. However I am more interested in their trade returns and if they call up and play their prospects going forward over the remaining games. I think that will show if ownership has a definite rebuild strategy towards winning or it their goal is still dumping current and future salary to enhance the bottom line.
Re: 2022 Cincinnati Reds
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:23 am
by BigGuy10
Omega wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:08 am
BigGuy10 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 8:12 am
Geronimo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 7:10 am
Reds still might get out last place? Seen some where they won 9 out of last 13 games ?
They have a good chance to jump out of last and even potentially to 3rd! Just depends on how the trade deadline goes and what team wants to show up..
We still have 6 vs the Marlins, 3 with the Nationals AND Rockies, and 12 with our divisional rivals Cubs and 10 vs the Pirates. If we can find a way to win roughly 20/34 of those games or more, I like our chances to get out of 5th place. But, I guess we'll see
Since their disastrous start, the Reds are 34-36, a .485 winning percentage, so third place is not out of reach. However I am more interested in their trade returns and if they call up and play their prospects going forward over the remaining games. I think that will show if ownership has a definite rebuild strategy towards winning or it their goal is still dumping current and future salary to enhance the bottom line.
Historically in the Castellini era, we haven't been known to get good returns when trading our big name guys so let's hope we can turn that around. Prospects wise, the bad thing is is that we don't really have many prospects who are ready to be called up yet.. we've already seen a majority of our AAA guys from all the injuries we've had this season.
Like I mentioned in a previous post, I'm not sold on us trading Castillo unless we get an absolute ransom for him since we still have him under control for another season. Don't rush if this isn't the best return we can get
Re: 2022 Cincinnati Reds
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:22 am
by Geronimo
Castillo has become a very good pitcher hope they get alot in return if they trade him ? He be good to build a round. In other words he's a keeper jmo..
Re: 2022 Cincinnati Reds
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:20 am
by GalliaGrad78
If he is good, they will trade him.
Re: 2022 Cincinnati Reds
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 6:58 am
by Omega
Reds trade Tyler Naquin, Phil Diehl to Mets for two minor league players
The Cincinnati Reds are trading outfielder Tyler Naquin and pitcher Phil Diehl to the New York Mets for two minor league players.
New York is sending second baseman Hector Rodriguez, 18, and RHP Jose Acuna, 19, to Cincinnati. Neither player is listed as one of MLB.com's top 30 prospects for the Mets.
https://www.wcpo.com/sports/baseball/re ... ue-players
Apparently Naquin would be a free agent at season end, so I guess the Reds are at least getting some return.
Still nothing solid on the rumored Castillo trade.
Re: 2022 Cincinnati Reds
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:59 pm
by Omega
Mariners trade to improve rotation, land Luis Castillo from Reds
From The Seattle Times:
MLB sources confirmed that the Mariners finalized a trade to acquire right-handed pitcher Luis Castillo of the Reds, the top pitcher available on the trade market in exchange for four prospects: Noelvi Marte and Edwin Arroyo and right-handed pitchers Andrew Moore and Levi Stoudt.
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/mar ... from-reds/
I have yet to see official confirmation from the Reds
Re: 2022 Cincinnati Reds
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 6:46 am
by Geronimo
Re: 2022 Cincinnati Reds
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 6:51 am
by Geronimo
That somes up the season of the Reds start all over again ??? Lost one good pitcher?
Re: 2022 Cincinnati Reds
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:58 am
by Omega
As to the return the Reds received for Castillo, the early reports have been favorable.
Noelvi Marte and Edwin Arroyo are regarded as two of the Mariners top three prospects, and among the top 100 in MiLB baseball. The pitchers look to be lottery tickets to fill out the deal.
Marte and Arroyo are both under 21. Good hit and good gloves in Class A ball.
Any trade for prospects is a crap shoot. None of the 4 are guaranteed to make the Reds in the future, but at least Krall got more than a bag of balls for Castillo. It does appear the Reds are going to rebuild through prospects and the farm system. The down side is the Reds have been very inconsistent in developing their minor league talent.
Re: 2022 Cincinnati Reds
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:27 am
by Geronimo
Re: 2022 Cincinnati Reds
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:59 am
by Geronimo
Mariners only shot is a wild card but at least they have a shot !!! Go Mariners !!!
Re: 2022 Cincinnati Reds
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:17 am
by Geronimo
Don't trade Mahle ?
Re: 2022 Cincinnati Reds
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2022 11:57 am
by Omega
Geronimo wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:17 am
Don't trade Mahle ?
They do need a veteran pitcher to anchor the staff so their young rotation can mature, but from what I have read, Cincy has put everybody but Greene, Lodolo, and Stephenson on the block for the best prospect(s) available. Whether Krall sees enough talent in return to pull the trade trigger remains to be seen. 2023 and 2024 figure to be lost years. Maybe the prospects will develop and 2025 will be a competitive season for the Reds.
Re: 2022 Cincinnati Reds
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:42 pm
by Omega
A few rays of sunshine in an otherwise miserable season:
The Reds are now in 4th place, a half game ahead of Pittsburgh.
Brandon Drury has hit his 20th home run.
The Reds have won 12 of their last 19 games.
The Reds are now 9-5 against the AL East, a division many feel is the best in MLB.
Re: 2022 Cincinnati Reds
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 7:16 am
by Geronimo
Still thinking if did not clean house so Early in a weak division they would be in the Hunt.
Re: 2022 Cincinnati Reds
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:36 am
by GalliaGrad78
Reds are merely a farm team for the rest of MLB.
Re: 2022 Cincinnati Reds
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:42 am
by Omega
Reds Trade Tommy Pham To Red Sox For PTBNL
The Reds appear to make a pure salary dump with this move. Pham was only hitting .240, which I guess is the new .280 in MLB. I kind of liked Pham and his volatile personality. At least he was entertaining.
https://www.mlb.com/news/reds-trade-tom ... to-red-sox
More trades to come on deadline day?
Re: 2022 Cincinnati Reds
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:19 am
by BigGuy10
Reds are now 13-7 in their last 20 games and really haven't looked too bad. I'm going to miss Castillo no doubt, however on paper the Reds got a huge W in this trade. We have now acquired 10 new prospects with 6 of them making our teams top 30 (Ranks #1,#5,#6,#8,#14 and #15)
I know it's tough to see our team trade away players we like however I haven't seen us be (on paper) this committed to rebuilding our farm system this heavily with intentions to develop these players at a high level. If this works out, expect the Reds to be very dangerous come 2024 or 2025.
With how the market has been thus far, Tyler Mahle is the best SP available for a team in need of one and will pay big returns to acquire him. Don't be surprised at sometime today if we see names like Mahle, Drury, or Farmer shipped out elsewhere for some pretty solid prospects to boost our farm even more. If that's the case, I'm all for it. Always Go Reds!
Re: 2022 Cincinnati Reds
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:26 am
by Omega
BigGuy10 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:19 am
Reds are now 13-7 in their last 20 games and really haven't looked too bad. I'm going to miss Castillo no doubt, however on paper the Reds got a huge W in this trade. We have now acquired 10 new prospects with 6 of them making our teams top 30 (Ranks #1,#5,#6,#8,#14 and #15)
I know it's tough to see our team trade away players we like however I haven't seen us be (on paper) this committed to rebuilding our farm system this heavily with intentions to develop these players at a high level. If this works out, expect the Reds to be very dangerous come 2024 or 2025.
With how the market has been thus far, Tyler Mahle is the best SP available for a team in need of one and will pay big returns to acquire him. Don't be surprised at sometime today if we see names like Mahle, Drury, or Farmer shipped out elsewhere for some pretty solid prospects to boost our farm even more. If that's the case, I'm all for it. Always Go Reds!
Good post BG10.
The current Reds FO strategy of rebuilding through young prospects is valid. I just hope the Castellini majority ownership stays the course and acquire some talent evaluation acumen along the way.
Re: 2022 Cincinnati Reds
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:21 pm
by BigGuy10
Tyler Mahle is on the move to the Minnesota Twins for 3 prospects: Twins #7 Spencer Steer (2B/3B), #18 Steve Hajjar (LHP), and #23 Christian Encarnacion-Strand (1B/3B)
Will miss Mahle for sure but again, I will be optimistic about what all we're doing for our farm system
