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We all keep looking at the top 10 and the biggest question is.. Why in the world is LSU in the Top 10?

Is the Committee trying to safeguard another 2 SEC team playoff? Let's think about this..

Alabama did beat LSU...
However... LSU beat Georgia

IF Georgia beats Alabama and Alabama loses I think Alabama is still in... Sadly I think they might shaft the B1G ..especially if Ohio State wins.

Like right now it's 1 Alabama 5 Georgia

If Ohio State wins out and Alabama loses to Georgia.. I almost guarantee you they put Alabama in over Ohio State..

Here's where things get interesting and WHY I think LSU is being held up so high...

IF Alabama loses to Auburn in the Iron Bowl.. Then LSU would be looked at for the playoff because.. LSU beat Auburn.. And Alabama would have 2 losses. And LSU would own the tiebreaker by beating Auburn.

Basically one slip up by any team outside the SEC will guarantee 2 SEC teams Again in a playoff.

Does this sort of make sense or am I delusional?


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let's hope not again. I didn't watch the last one for that very same reason.
I think back to the ohio state/Michigan game on November 18th , 2006
number 1 ohio state beat number 2 Michigan 42 -39. the nation wanted a rematch for everything. the sec and espn threw a fit. they claimed that can never happen, 2 teams from the same conference. but yet a couple years later it did and again last year with 2 sec teams. so I didn't watch it.


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If there is one thing the playoff committee has been consistent at, its this:

They will load up on SEC teams in the top 25 (and now even ACC teams with Beemer on the committee) who have no reason being there. Why? Its simple. Its their safety net to pull at least one SEC (hopefully 2) into their top 4.

The higher they have these teams ranked, the more they are building up the Bama, Georgia and LSU resume. LSU has no business being in the top 10. Period. They looked laughable vs Bama. Citadel put up 100 more yards against Bama. Hell they put up over 250 MORE yard on the ground vs Bama than LSU.

They prop them up so when Bama (or Georgia) beats them they can say they have another top 25/top 10 win on their resume. Gotta cover up that 8 conference game schedule along with FCS scheduling of teams somehow.

Last year on the Tuesday before Championship Saturday, the committee released their final weekly rankings. Lying Herbie said, on national tv, "The difference between #5 (Bama) and #8 (USC) was "razor thin". OSU was #6 I believe.

Ohio State then goes to Indy and beats #4 Wisconsin (who was guaranteed a playoff birth with a win in that game). USC goes out and wins the PAC 12 title.

Bama sits at home because they didnt even win their division. They didnt have to go play another quality opponent, get dinged up...nope it was a free weekend for them to get healthy and prepare.

All of a sudden on the Sunday selection show Lying Herbie comes out on E$PN and says "Alabama is #4 because they are "UNEQUIVOCALLY" better than OSU and USC.

They are unequivocally better from sitting at home and not playing? Meanwhile OSU just beat their #4 ranked team and both OSU and USC won a Power 5 Championship that Bama didnt even qualify to play for in their conference.

Its not really a conspiracy theory when they do this right in front of everyone. They know with an 8 team playoff, their top 4 rankings still hold weight for seeding and where they will be playing, but they cannot provide the safety and total protection of these SEC (and now ACC) schools.

Syracuse was never a #12 team last week. Even though LSU beat Georgia by 20 head to head it does the committee no good for Bama or Georgia to rank them higher than Georgia because LSU cant play for the SEC Title. I could go on and on.

These other power 5 leaders need to put their foot down. What they are doing as a committee is already out of hand.


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Bleeding Red wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:10 pm If there is one thing the playoff committee has been consistent at, its this:

They will load up on SEC teams in the top 25 (and now even ACC teams with Beemer on the committee) who have no reason being there. Why? Its simple. Its their safety net to pull at least one SEC (hopefully 2) into their top 4.

The higher they have these teams ranked, the more they are building up the Bama, Georgia and LSU resume. LSU has no business being in the top 10. Period. They looked laughable vs Bama. Citadel put up 100 more yards against Bama. Hell they put up over 250 MORE yard on the ground vs Bama than LSU.

They prop them up so when Bama (or Georgia) beats them they can say they have another top 25/top 10 win on their resume. Gotta cover up that 8 conference game schedule along with FCS scheduling of teams somehow.

Last year on the Tuesday before Championship Saturday, the committee released their final weekly rankings. Lying Herbie said, on national tv, "The difference between #5 (Bama) and #8 (USC) was "razor thin". OSU was #6 I believe.

Ohio State then goes to Indy and beats #4 Wisconsin (who was guaranteed a playoff birth with a win in that game). USC goes out and wins the PAC 12 title.

Bama sits at home because they didnt even win their division. They didnt have to go play another quality opponent, get dinged up...nope it was a free weekend for them to get healthy and prepare.

All of a sudden on the Sunday selection show Lying Herbie comes out on E$PN and says "Alabama is #4 because they are "UNEQUIVOCALLY" better than OSU and USC.

They are unequivocally better from sitting at home and not playing? Meanwhile OSU just beat their #4 ranked team and both OSU and USC won a Power 5 Championship that Bama didnt even qualify to play for in their conference.

Its not really a conspiracy theory when they do this right in front of everyone. They know with an 8 team playoff, their top 4 rankings still hold weight for seeding and where they will be playing, but they cannot provide the safety and total protection of these SEC (and now ACC) schools.

Syracuse was never a #12 team last week. Even though LSU beat Georgia by 20 head to head it does the committee no good for Bama or Georgia to rank them higher than Georgia because LSU cant play for the SEC Title. I could go on and on.

These other power 5 leaders need to put their foot down. What they are doing as a committee is already out of hand.
Totally agree...


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Bleeding Red wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:10 pm If there is one thing the playoff committee has been consistent at, its this:

They will load up on SEC teams in the top 25 (and now even ACC teams with Beemer on the committee) who have no reason being there. Why? Its simple. Its their safety net to pull at least one SEC (hopefully 2) into their top 4.

The higher they have these teams ranked, the more they are building up the Bama, Georgia and LSU resume. LSU has no business being in the top 10. Period. They looked laughable vs Bama. Citadel put up 100 more yards against Bama. Hell they put up over 250 MORE yard on the ground vs Bama than LSU.

They prop them up so when Bama (or Georgia) beats them they can say they have another top 25/top 10 win on their resume. Gotta cover up that 8 conference game schedule along with FCS scheduling of teams somehow.

Last year on the Tuesday before Championship Saturday, the committee released their final weekly rankings. Lying Herbie said, on national tv, "The difference between #5 (Bama) and #8 (USC) was "razor thin". OSU was #6 I believe.

Ohio State then goes to Indy and beats #4 Wisconsin (who was guaranteed a playoff birth with a win in that game). USC goes out and wins the PAC 12 title.

Bama sits at home because they didnt even win their division. They didnt have to go play another quality opponent, get dinged up...nope it was a free weekend for them to get healthy and prepare.

All of a sudden on the Sunday selection show Lying Herbie comes out on E$PN and says "Alabama is #4 because they are "UNEQUIVOCALLY" better than OSU and USC.

They are unequivocally better from sitting at home and not playing? Meanwhile OSU just beat their #4 ranked team and both OSU and USC won a Power 5 Championship that Bama didnt even qualify to play for in their conference.

Its not really a conspiracy theory when they do this right in front of everyone. They know with an 8 team playoff, their top 4 rankings still hold weight for seeding and where they will be playing, but they cannot provide the safety and total protection of these SEC (and now ACC) schools.

Syracuse was never a #12 team last week. Even though LSU beat Georgia by 20 head to head it does the committee no good for Bama or Georgia to rank them higher than Georgia because LSU cant play for the SEC Title. I could go on and on.

These other power 5 leaders need to put their foot down. What they are doing as a committee is already out of hand.
I'm see it also. Year in and out the ESPN talks these guys up. Its literally sicking to watch.


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:lol: :lol: :lol: HOMERS....and Envytidehatesec....Shots at your local Health Dept :lol: ...Free too..Wont do any good however....Proctology exam could help...Not sure...But maybe...Could extract those big HOMERS out of your backside..But who could say for sure..49-20....And all the other ugly :lol: :lol:


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Keep in mind a few things ohio HOMERS when you want to boast or pull a Mel Gibson :lol: :lol:

ohio has NEVER defeated Clemson or Fla State in a Collegiate football game...EVER..that is one fact

ohio has NEVER defeated Georgia..Auburn...Tennessee...Florida..or SCarolina,,in a football game...That is another FACT......ohio is 0-13 ALL-time vs these opponents.....Another Fact....

Ohio is 1-3 All-time vs THE TIDE...That is a fact..ohio is 3-11 vs THE SEC all-time...That is a FACT...

THE SEC is 90-60 vs the big 14..That is a Fact.....

The big 14 is 69-27 all-time vs LSU..Georgia..War Eagle..THE TIDE...The Gators..The Vols..SCarolina....THE MSU..and Mizzu.....THAT IS A FACT..

ohio is 10-13 all-time vs USC...That is a Fact


ohio has won 1 ballgame...and lost 2 all-time vs Texas...THAT is a FACT.....Jack :lol:

ohio has won 2 ballgames and Lost 3 times to Stanford All-time....And that is a fact

ohio has won 2 football games against SOONER and lost 2 games..2-2....And a flag buried on the 50 in the concrete shithole...AND that is a fact



ohio is 1-1 all-time vs LSU...And that IS a FACT

ohio is 2-2 all-time vs THE U..And THAT is a Fact

ohio is 1-1 All-Time vs Va.Tech....and that is a fact

ohio DOES NOT have a winning record against ANY of these BLUEBLOOD PROGRAMS.. in the country.....They are 21-41 ALL-time vs THE BLUEBLOODS of College football.....THAT is a fact...

But there IS a Saving Grace....ohio is 4-2 against The Irish....The only "Blueblood Program" they HAVE a WINNING record against....That is a FACT...OVERALL?..VS THE "Bluebloods"..25-43....Not Rut,indy,illini,minny,mary,corn,purdy,spart,bucky,hawk,and NWestern!!...That is for darn sure :lol: :lol:

ohio has LOST 3 more games to Penn State AND Michigan combined than they have won....And THAT is a FACT

Mike Tomczak is the most accomplished QB in the History of ohio bux football.....AND that is a FACT

ohio has a losing record ALL-TIME in BOWL-GAMES.....And that is a FACT.....

ohio has NEVER defeated a team at home Out-of Conference in that hell-hole who was RANKED in the TOP-5 of the AP Rankings.....EVER.....And THAT is a FACT

Woody Hayes,Earle Bruce,John Cooper,and THE Reverend Senator Vest were ALL Unceremoniously ran out of Columbus on a rail....The previous 4 before Pinnochio......THAT IS A FACT..MACK....Will ole LONG NOSE be the next FACT?

These are Facts HOMERS...TRUTHS.....You guys got your minds on The CIA...THE FBI.....THE Russians.....The Military Complex...The Cubans...The Mafia...LBJ....Mark May...Herbie....ESPN....Coach Saban....Coach Swinney....Greg Sankey...The College FOOTBALL Committee...THE GENERAL.....Brett McMurphy....Zach Smith...Tom Herman..Kirby Smart....Coach O.....Joe Burrow....THE SEC where it "JUST MEANS More....WE WERE FLAT...... :lol:

Get your mind off UFOs...Martians....and big 14 schools getting screwed :lol: ...The League is 84-70 so far....The big 14 west is 39-38....Your bell cow got the hell beat out of them by 29...By a 5-6 ballclub....Spart sucks..bucky is taking serious cash out of their RBs pocket and he wont do anything about it :lol: and PSU stinks EVEN worse....Man up and prove yourself....Mel aint here to help you HOMERS


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THE SEC has won 9 out of the last 12 college football championships...10 out of the last 15....13 out of the last 26....BY 5 different schools.......THE TIDE with 6(5 out of the last 9..)LSU with 2.....War Eagle with 1...Florida with 3....Tennessee with 1.....Conspiracy? :lol: :lol: :lol: ....Doubt it....How many have the big 14 won since 1992? And how many schools?....A HOMER wont answer this. They will crawl in a hole. SINCE the 2000 football season LSU has won more games than anyone in the big 14..or12..or10..(.or Whatever the hell it is called) not named ohio.....AND has played in a hell of a lot BETTER and TOUGHER Conference than ohio has....And the Tigers have won 2 titles(One under the GREAT Saban)....These arent Theories either....Facts HOMERS


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The General wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:00 pm Keep in mind a few things ohio HOMERS when you want to boast or pull a Mel Gibson :lol: :lol:

ohio has NEVER defeated Clemson or Fla State in a Collegiate football game...EVER..that is one fact

ohio has NEVER defeated Georgia..Auburn...Tennessee...Florida..or SCarolina,,in a football game...That is another FACT......ohio is 0-13 ALL-time vs these opponents.....Another Fact....

Ohio is 1-3 All-time vs THE TIDE...That is a fact..ohio is 3-11 vs THE SEC all-time...That is a FACT...

THE SEC is 90-60 vs the big 14..That is a Fact.....

The big 14 is 69-27 all-time vs LSU..Georgia..War Eagle..THE TIDE...The Gators..The Vols..SCarolina....THE MSU..and Mizzu.....THAT IS A FACT..

ohio is 10-13 all-time vs USC...That is a Fact


ohio has won 1 ballgame...and lost 2 all-time vs Texas...THAT is a FACT.....Jack :lol:

ohio has won 2 ballgames and Lost 3 times to Stanford All-time....And that is a fact

ohio has won 2 football games against SOONER and lost 2 games..2-2....And a flag buried on the 50 in the concrete shithole...AND that is a fact



ohio is 1-1 all-time vs LSU...And that IS a FACT

ohio is 2-2 all-time vs THE U..And THAT is a Fact

ohio is 1-1 All-Time vs Va.Tech....and that is a fact

ohio DOES NOT have a winning record against ANY of these BLUEBLOOD PROGRAMS.. in the country.....They are 21-41 ALL-time vs THE BLUEBLOODS of College football.....THAT is a fact...

But there IS a Saving Grace....ohio is 4-2 against The Irish....The only "Blueblood Program" they HAVE a WINNING record against....That is a FACT...OVERALL?..VS THE "Bluebloods"..25-43....Not Rut,indy,illini,minny,mary,corn,purdy,spart,bucky,hawk,and NWestern!!...That is for darn sure :lol: :lol:

ohio has LOST 3 more games to Penn State AND Michigan combined than they have won....And THAT is a FACT

Mike Tomczak is the most accomplished QB in the History of ohio bux football.....AND that is a FACT

ohio has a losing record ALL-TIME in BOWL-GAMES.....And that is a FACT.....

ohio has NEVER defeated a team at home Out-of Conference in that hell-hole who was RANKED in the TOP-5 of the AP Rankings.....EVER.....And THAT is a FACT

Woody Hayes,Earle Bruce,John Cooper,and THE Reverend Senator Vest were ALL Unceremoniously ran out of Columbus on a rail....The previous 4 before Pinnochio......THAT IS A FACT..MACK....Will ole LONG NOSE be the next FACT?

These are Facts HOMERS...TRUTHS.....You guys got your minds on The CIA...THE FBI.....THE Russians.....The Military Complex...The Cubans...The Mafia...LBJ....Mark May...Herbie....ESPN....Coach Saban....Coach Swinney....Greg Sankey...The College FOOTBALL Committee...THE GENERAL.....Brett McMurphy....Zach Smith...Tom Herman..Kirby Smart....Coach O.....Joe Burrow....THE SEC where it "JUST MEANS More....WE WERE FLAT...... :lol:

Get your mind off UFOs...Martians....and big 14 schools getting screwed :lol: ...The League is 84-70 so far....The big 14 west is 39-38....Your bell cow got the hell beat out of them by 29...By a 5-6 ballclub....Spart sucks..bucky is taking serious cash out of their RBs pocket and he wont do anything about it :lol: and PSU stinks EVEN worse....Man up and prove yourself....Mel aint here to help you HOMERS
I don't debate with you much anymore, usually because I don't have the time to do research and actually prove a point. But, the constant bashing is kind of getting annoying. So...

Do you make some valid points? Sure, absolutely.

But, Ohio State has played Georgia one time ever (1993) and the Bulldogs won 21-14.

Ohio State has played Auburn one time ever (1990) and the Tigers won 31-14.

Ohio State has played Tennessee one time ever (1996) and the Vols won 20-14.

Ohio State has in fact been whooped by Florida the only two times they've ever played.

It's not like these schools have a long history of playing each other and OSU has just been their whipping boy. That is how you are trying to make it sound, and you would be wrong about that. You can't say much about a series if it was only one game ever.

1-2 against Texas. 2-3 against Stanford. 2-2 against Oklahoma. That doesn't say too much, pretty even series.

1-1 against LSU. 2-2 against Miami. 1-1 against Virginia Tech. I have no idea why you are making fun of those. Those series are deadlocked. And again, not much of a history there either.

Sure, you make SOME good points. And yes, you provided facts. But good for you, I can go look up facts as well.

Here's the other thing. Ohio plays in the MAC. Ohio State plays in the B1G. Two different schools. So, if we're going on what you typed and what is actually fact, everything that you just said was completely wrong. So, good job.

Again, I'm not making fun of you or calling you names, just so we're clear about that.

I'm not where Ohio State shaded glasses, I can understand facts. Just let people cheer for their favorite team. Why is that so hard?


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Ohio A&M (est. 1873) and renamed Ohio State (1878) for many decades even up thru the Woody, Earle years they were referred by many people as just OHIO. Look at the old Jesse Owens clips and such when the jersey's said Ohio. Woody used to sign a lot of memorabilia and would usually write "Yeah Ohio" on it . The OSU symbol wasn't started until 1977 and was changed to "THE Ohio State University" in 1986 when they started all this trademark branding for $$$ stuff, like Ohio U. (which was est. in 1804) was trying to infringe on their copyrights or trademarks as most people around the USA know the difference you would think, duh !!! Maybe OU should sue them for the O-H-I-O chant. They tried just last year to trademark the OSU brand for themselves and didn't want Oklahoma State using it and that failed miserably as they both have a right to use it as does Oregon State out west so they had to compromise . (I wonder how much money went to pay for that lawsuit ?) Anything for the almighty power of a name, talk about priorities :lol:

*Anyway, since 1968 the Big-10 (50 years), Ohio State has 3 titles 1968, 2002, 2014 on the field and 1 on paper 1970 (Named before bowl games back then, Stanford beat them in the Rose Bowl) and Michigan had a share in 1997 (w/Nebraska before they were in the conference) ** Penn State was an independent when they won their titles**

And finally I don't believe in a SEC conspiracy theory but I do know this year that neither OSU nor Michigan really wants to take a drubbing in the CFB playoffs so they better hope OSU wins and neither one makes it in. If the powers that be have their druthers they really want a LSU-OSU matchup which is an even better reason to keep them both in the top 10 weekly (jmo)
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Chieftain2009 wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:18 pm
The General wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:00 pm Keep in mind a few things ohio HOMERS when you want to boast or pull a Mel Gibson :lol: :lol:

ohio has NEVER defeated Clemson or Fla State in a Collegiate football game...EVER..that is one fact

ohio has NEVER defeated Georgia..Auburn...Tennessee...Florida..or SCarolina,,in a football game...That is another FACT......ohio is 0-13 ALL-time vs these opponents.....Another Fact....

Ohio is 1-3 All-time vs THE TIDE...That is a fact..ohio is 3-11 vs THE SEC all-time...That is a FACT...

THE SEC is 90-60 vs the big 14..That is a Fact.....

The big 14 is 69-27 all-time vs LSU..Georgia..War Eagle..THE TIDE...The Gators..The Vols..SCarolina....THE MSU..and Mizzu.....THAT IS A FACT..

ohio is 10-13 all-time vs USC...That is a Fact


ohio has won 1 ballgame...and lost 2 all-time vs Texas...THAT is a FACT.....Jack :lol:

ohio has won 2 ballgames and Lost 3 times to Stanford All-time....And that is a fact

ohio has won 2 football games against SOONER and lost 2 games..2-2....And a flag buried on the 50 in the concrete shithole...AND that is a fact



ohio is 1-1 all-time vs LSU...And that IS a FACT

ohio is 2-2 all-time vs THE U..And THAT is a Fact

ohio is 1-1 All-Time vs Va.Tech....and that is a fact

ohio DOES NOT have a winning record against ANY of these BLUEBLOOD PROGRAMS.. in the country.....They are 21-41 ALL-time vs THE BLUEBLOODS of College football.....THAT is a fact...

But there IS a Saving Grace....ohio is 4-2 against The Irish....The only "Blueblood Program" they HAVE a WINNING record against....That is a FACT...OVERALL?..VS THE "Bluebloods"..25-43....Not Rut,indy,illini,minny,mary,corn,purdy,spart,bucky,hawk,and NWestern!!...That is for darn sure :lol: :lol:

ohio has LOST 3 more games to Penn State AND Michigan combined than they have won....And THAT is a FACT

Mike Tomczak is the most accomplished QB in the History of ohio bux football.....AND that is a FACT

ohio has a losing record ALL-TIME in BOWL-GAMES.....And that is a FACT.....

ohio has NEVER defeated a team at home Out-of Conference in that hell-hole who was RANKED in the TOP-5 of the AP Rankings.....EVER.....And THAT is a FACT

Woody Hayes,Earle Bruce,John Cooper,and THE Reverend Senator Vest were ALL Unceremoniously ran out of Columbus on a rail....The previous 4 before Pinnochio......THAT IS A FACT..MACK....Will ole LONG NOSE be the next FACT?

These are Facts HOMERS...TRUTHS.....You guys got your minds on The CIA...THE FBI.....THE Russians.....The Military Complex...The Cubans...The Mafia...LBJ....Mark May...Herbie....ESPN....Coach Saban....Coach Swinney....Greg Sankey...The College FOOTBALL Committee...THE GENERAL.....Brett McMurphy....Zach Smith...Tom Herman..Kirby Smart....Coach O.....Joe Burrow....THE SEC where it "JUST MEANS More....WE WERE FLAT...... :lol:

Get your mind off UFOs...Martians....and big 14 schools getting screwed :lol: ...The League is 84-70 so far....The big 14 west is 39-38....Your bell cow got the hell beat out of them by 29...By a 5-6 ballclub....Spart sucks..bucky is taking serious cash out of their RBs pocket and he wont do anything about it :lol: and PSU stinks EVEN worse....Man up and prove yourself....Mel aint here to help you HOMERS
I don't debate with you much anymore, usually because I don't have the time to do research and actually prove a point. But, the constant bashing is kind of getting annoying. So...

Do you make some valid points? Sure, absolutely.

But, Ohio State has played Georgia one time ever (1993) and the Bulldogs won 21-14.

Ohio State has played Auburn one time ever (1990) and the Tigers won 31-14.

Ohio State has played Tennessee one time ever (1996) and the Vols won 20-14.

Ohio State has in fact been whooped by Florida the only two times they've ever played.

It's not like these schools have a long history of playing each other and OSU has just been their whipping boy. That is how you are trying to make it sound, and you would be wrong about that. You can't say much about a series if it was only one game ever.

1-2 against Texas. 2-3 against Stanford. 2-2 against Oklahoma. That doesn't say too much, pretty even series.

1-1 against LSU. 2-2 against Miami. 1-1 against Virginia Tech. I have no idea why you are making fun of those. Those series are deadlocked. And again, not much of a history there either.

Sure, you make SOME good points. And yes, you provided facts. But good for you, I can go look up facts as well.

Here's the other thing. Ohio plays in the MAC. Ohio State plays in the B1G. Two different schools. So, if we're going on what you typed and what is actually fact, everything that you just said was completely wrong. So, good job.

Again, I'm not making fun of you or calling you names, just so we're clear about that.

I'm not where Ohio State shaded glasses, I can understand facts. Just let people cheer for their favorite team. Why is that so hard?
1st of all I make ALL valid points.

ohio has been "whooped" 6 consecutive times by FSU and Clemson being outscored by 81 pts.....With 0 wins..

Playing 68 games vs The "Bluebloods" of College Football is a pretty good sample size!...Only winning 35% is pretty telling I would say and ONLY having 1 winning record all-time against any of them says a lot. At least that is what would be screeched on the Mountain Top "IF" the venerable shoe was on the other foot.So "whipping boy" as you called it is a pretty good analogy in this respect.

ohio HOMERS dont want to hear about FACTS like this...Or be told. And to be perfectly fair,who could blame them? :lol:

HOMERS want to talk about how many years,months,weeks,minutes,and seconds it has been since Michigan has beat #hi#....Or how they have"Dominated" UM the last 20 yrs or so.Not that Michigan still has the most wins in the series or how THE SEC dominates them.

#hi# bux people want to talk "how" they got screwed last year and want to cry about how the Playoff Committee and ESPN love Alabama and Nick Saban.And the "Favorable" treatment :lol: ;) ....There was a screwing that went on.... Actually 2....One involved a flag planted on the 50...in CBus.....The other involved a 31 point thrashing In Iowa.And the fact that the big 14 has been whitewashed the last 2 times they appeared in the Playoffs by 69 points and 2 outfits more than likely doesnt help matters.

HOMERS are already playing the "IF"game relative to the playoffs right now :lol: ...A team that plays in,at best, the 4th best conference in America FROM Top to bottom and maybe the 5th behind the American. A league that is 84-70 combined by the 14 schools. A league that has a division that is 39-38 this late in the year. A league that has 7 teams with a losing record as of now. An outfit who has beat 2 teams with a winning record. An outfit whose wins have come over teams who are a combined 46-64 record Over-all. A team that got Long-Nosed by 29 points to a 5-6 football team.A team that has given up Nearly 400 yds to THE OSU.Over 500 yds to TCU.Nearly 500 to PSU..Over 400 to Indy and Minny EACH....540 to Purdue..450 to Neb.....540 to Maryland....Do PLAYOFF teams do this?...Against this kind of Churn?..Dont believe so...But they will NEED 4 teams...And we know about ohio cash,political clout,Fox Sports love,THE "brand",and Commissioner Delany.....It will really ramp up for HOMERS if #hi# beats Michigan.

THE OSU Cowboys are in The BIG 10. THE Ohio University is in The MAC.#hi# bux play in the big 14 :lol: Why do HOMERS make SO MANY excuses why they lose?..Why they are NOT elite, as some, in all eyes in America? :lol: Why are they THE biggest Haters in college football and the MOST ridiculed from Coast to Coast?..Why dont they want people to cheer for their favorite teams and brag on them? What is it like to have envytidehatesec?..I know it HAS to be bad...

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The General seems to be making lots of friends on here.


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Bleeding Red wrote: Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:21 pm The General seems to be making lots of friends on here.
I sure as hell hope so!!...A man cant have enough friends :D


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FANOSPORTS wrote: Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:52 am Ohio A&M (est. 1873) and renamed Ohio State (1878) for many decades even up thru the Woody, Earle years they were referred by many people as just OHIO. Look at the old Jesse Owens clips and such when the jersey's said Ohio. Woody used to sign a lot of memorabilia and would usually write "Yeah Ohio" on it . The OSU symbol wasn't started until 1977 and was changed to "THE Ohio State University" in 1986 when they started all this trademark branding for $$$ stuff, like Ohio U. (which was est. in 1804) was trying to infringe on their copyrights or trademarks as most people around the USA know the difference you would think, duh !!! Maybe OU should sue them for the O-H-I-O chant. They tried just last year to trademark the OSU brand for themselves and didn't want Oklahoma State using it and that failed miserably as they both have a right to use it as does Oregon State out west so they had to compromise . (I wonder how much money went to pay for that lawsuit ?) Anything for the almighty power of a name, talk about priorities :lol:

*Anyway, since 1968 the Big-10 (50 years), Ohio State has 3 titles 1968, 2002, 2014 on the field and 1 on paper 1970 (Named before bowl games back then, Stanford beat them in the Rose Bowl) and Michigan had a share in 1997 (w/Nebraska before they were in the conference) ** Penn State was an independent when they won their titles**

And finally I don't believe in a SEC conspiracy theory but I do know this year that neither OSU nor Michigan really wants to take a drubbing in the CFB playoffs so they better hope OSU wins and neither one makes it in. If the powers that be have their druthers they really want a LSU-OSU matchup which is an even better reason to keep them both in the top 10 weekly (jmo)
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General, I grew up on Alabama football with Coach Bryant, Joe Namath, Kenny Stabler, Scott Hunter of the 60's and then the Bone in the 70's. I watched in horror after Coach Stalling left and we went through about 15 years of mediocrity with Dubose, Shula and the mess with Price. Coach Nick Saban came in and made the Tide relevant again the way Coach Bryant did.

I understand how people want us to lose, much like the country was rooting against USC when they dominated in the early 2000's, Nebraska in the 90"s and Miami in the 80's. Its a cycle and our run will come to an end some day in the future. I also remember a few things I was taught as a youngster, to remember my raising, treat others with respect and to show class win or lose.

I think in my own personal belief that most of us on here give and take in good nature ribbing but sometimes, even I go too far. That is one reason I no longer post on here as much as I did in the past or on the once famous JJ Huddle site that is now gone. Its a game and at the end of the day I am going to be friends with Ohio State, West Virginia, Michigan and our case, Auburn fans because they are as passionate about their team as you and I.

Win or lose, I am going to be Crimson Tide until the day I die. When we lose, the sun will come up and life will go forward and I am going to move on. I'll even throw in a few digs at some friends BurgFan77 and people I work with or know personally but I am not going on a forum and bust people's chops if I don't know them. Life is too short and there are more important things to be concerned with. No disrespect to you or any other poster on here is intended.

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Good post Bama Mike.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family also.


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The General wrote: Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:27 am
Chieftain2009 wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:18 pm
The General wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:00 pm Keep in mind a few things ohio HOMERS when you want to boast or pull a Mel Gibson :lol: :lol:

ohio has NEVER defeated Clemson or Fla State in a Collegiate football game...EVER..that is one fact

ohio has NEVER defeated Georgia..Auburn...Tennessee...Florida..or SCarolina,,in a football game...That is another FACT......ohio is 0-13 ALL-time vs these opponents.....Another Fact....

Ohio is 1-3 All-time vs THE TIDE...That is a fact..ohio is 3-11 vs THE SEC all-time...That is a FACT...

THE SEC is 90-60 vs the big 14..That is a Fact.....

The big 14 is 69-27 all-time vs LSU..Georgia..War Eagle..THE TIDE...The Gators..The Vols..SCarolina....THE MSU..and Mizzu.....THAT IS A FACT..

ohio is 10-13 all-time vs USC...That is a Fact


ohio has won 1 ballgame...and lost 2 all-time vs Texas...THAT is a FACT.....Jack :lol:

ohio has won 2 ballgames and Lost 3 times to Stanford All-time....And that is a fact

ohio has won 2 football games against SOONER and lost 2 games..2-2....And a flag buried on the 50 in the concrete shithole...AND that is a fact



ohio is 1-1 all-time vs LSU...And that IS a FACT

ohio is 2-2 all-time vs THE U..And THAT is a Fact

ohio is 1-1 All-Time vs Va.Tech....and that is a fact

ohio DOES NOT have a winning record against ANY of these BLUEBLOOD PROGRAMS.. in the country.....They are 21-41 ALL-time vs THE BLUEBLOODS of College football.....THAT is a fact...

But there IS a Saving Grace....ohio is 4-2 against The Irish....The only "Blueblood Program" they HAVE a WINNING record against....That is a FACT...OVERALL?..VS THE "Bluebloods"..25-43....Not Rut,indy,illini,minny,mary,corn,purdy,spart,bucky,hawk,and NWestern!!...That is for darn sure :lol: :lol:

ohio has LOST 3 more games to Penn State AND Michigan combined than they have won....And THAT is a FACT

Mike Tomczak is the most accomplished QB in the History of ohio bux football.....AND that is a FACT

ohio has a losing record ALL-TIME in BOWL-GAMES.....And that is a FACT.....

ohio has NEVER defeated a team at home Out-of Conference in that hell-hole who was RANKED in the TOP-5 of the AP Rankings.....EVER.....And THAT is a FACT

Woody Hayes,Earle Bruce,John Cooper,and THE Reverend Senator Vest were ALL Unceremoniously ran out of Columbus on a rail....The previous 4 before Pinnochio......THAT IS A FACT..MACK....Will ole LONG NOSE be the next FACT?

These are Facts HOMERS...TRUTHS.....You guys got your minds on The CIA...THE FBI.....THE Russians.....The Military Complex...The Cubans...The Mafia...LBJ....Mark May...Herbie....ESPN....Coach Saban....Coach Swinney....Greg Sankey...The College FOOTBALL Committee...THE GENERAL.....Brett McMurphy....Zach Smith...Tom Herman..Kirby Smart....Coach O.....Joe Burrow....THE SEC where it "JUST MEANS More....WE WERE FLAT...... :lol:

Get your mind off UFOs...Martians....and big 14 schools getting screwed :lol: ...The League is 84-70 so far....The big 14 west is 39-38....Your bell cow got the hell beat out of them by 29...By a 5-6 ballclub....Spart sucks..bucky is taking serious cash out of their RBs pocket and he wont do anything about it :lol: and PSU stinks EVEN worse....Man up and prove yourself....Mel aint here to help you HOMERS
I don't debate with you much anymore, usually because I don't have the time to do research and actually prove a point. But, the constant bashing is kind of getting annoying. So...

Do you make some valid points? Sure, absolutely.

But, Ohio State has played Georgia one time ever (1993) and the Bulldogs won 21-14.

Ohio State has played Auburn one time ever (1990) and the Tigers won 31-14.

Ohio State has played Tennessee one time ever (1996) and the Vols won 20-14.

Ohio State has in fact been whooped by Florida the only two times they've ever played.

It's not like these schools have a long history of playing each other and OSU has just been their whipping boy. That is how you are trying to make it sound, and you would be wrong about that. You can't say much about a series if it was only one game ever.

1-2 against Texas. 2-3 against Stanford. 2-2 against Oklahoma. That doesn't say too much, pretty even series.

1-1 against LSU. 2-2 against Miami. 1-1 against Virginia Tech. I have no idea why you are making fun of those. Those series are deadlocked. And again, not much of a history there either.

Sure, you make SOME good points. And yes, you provided facts. But good for you, I can go look up facts as well.

Here's the other thing. Ohio plays in the MAC. Ohio State plays in the B1G. Two different schools. So, if we're going on what you typed and what is actually fact, everything that you just said was completely wrong. So, good job.

Again, I'm not making fun of you or calling you names, just so we're clear about that.

I'm not where Ohio State shaded glasses, I can understand facts. Just let people cheer for their favorite team. Why is that so hard?
1st of all I make ALL valid points.

ohio has been "whooped" 6 consecutive times by FSU and Clemson being outscored by 81 pts.....With 0 wins..

Playing 68 games vs The "Bluebloods" of College Football is a pretty good sample size!...Only winning 35% is pretty telling I would say and ONLY having 1 winning record all-time against any of them says a lot. At least that is what would be screeched on the Mountain Top "IF" the venerable shoe was on the other foot.So "whipping boy" as you called it is a pretty good analogy in this respect.

ohio HOMERS dont want to hear about FACTS like this...Or be told. And to be perfectly fair,who could blame them? :lol:

HOMERS want to talk about how many years,months,weeks,minutes,and seconds it has been since Michigan has beat #hi#....Or how they have"Dominated" UM the last 20 yrs or so.Not that Michigan still has the most wins in the series or how THE SEC dominates them.

#hi# bux people want to talk "how" they got screwed last year and want to cry about how the Playoff Committee and ESPN love Alabama and Nick Saban.And the "Favorable" treatment :lol: ;) ....There was a screwing that went on.... Actually 2....One involved a flag planted on the 50...in CBus.....The other involved a 31 point thrashing In Iowa.And the fact that the big 14 has been whitewashed the last 2 times they appeared in the Playoffs by 69 points and 2 outfits more than likely doesnt help matters.

HOMERS are already playing the "IF"game relative to the playoffs right now :lol: ...A team that plays in,at best, the 4th best conference in America FROM Top to bottom and maybe the 5th behind the American. A league that is 84-70 combined by the 14 schools. A league that has a division that is 39-38 this late in the year. A league that has 7 teams with a losing record as of now. An outfit who has beat 2 teams with a winning record. An outfit whose wins have come over teams who are a combined 46-64 record Over-all. A team that got Long-Nosed by 29 points to a 5-6 football team.A team that has given up Nearly 400 yds to THE OSU.Over 500 yds to TCU.Nearly 500 to PSU..Over 400 to Indy and Minny EACH....540 to Purdue..450 to Neb.....540 to Maryland....Do PLAYOFF teams do this?...Against this kind of Churn?..Dont believe so...But they will NEED 4 teams...And we know about ohio cash,political clout,Fox Sports love,THE "brand",and Commissioner Delany.....It will really ramp up for HOMERS if #hi# beats Michigan.

THE OSU Cowboys are in The BIG 10. THE Ohio University is in The MAC.#hi# bux play in the big 14 :lol: Why do HOMERS make SO MANY excuses why they lose?..Why they are NOT elite, as some, in all eyes in America? :lol: Why are they THE biggest Haters in college football and the MOST ridiculed from Coast to Coast?..Why dont they want people to cheer for their favorite teams and brag on them? What is it like to have envytidehatesec?..I know it HAS to be bad...

If I annoy you so bad chief?...Some advice..Dont pay attention!...But obviously you do.
ohio has been "whooped" 6 consecutive times by FSU and Clemson being outscored by 81 pts.....With 0 wins..A QUOTE FROM THE GENERAL


mr. general I don't know if you have seen the schedule or the header to this topic. BUT IT IS ABOUT OHIO STATE VS. MICHIGAN. WHO CARES ABOUT THE STATS OR COMPARING OTHER LEAGUES. THIS IS OHIO STATE /MICHIGAN WEEK. TONS OF PROGRAMS WOULD LOVE TO HAVE OUR HISTORY, MULTIPLE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS AWARD WINNING PLAYERS, HEISMAN WINNERS AND THE LIST GO ON AND ON. ==================== IT IS WHAT IT IS. WHO CARES. THIS IS ALL ABOUT OHIO STATE AND MICHIGAN, NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.


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AND URBAN MEYER WON 2 OF THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS COACHING FLORIDA. AND IS THE BUCKEYES HEAD COACH NOW.
AND WE HAVE WON 2 NATIONAL TITLES SINCE 2002. ONLY BAMA CAN MAKE A CLAIM LIKE THAT. WHICH HAS WON SEVERAL.

WHO CARES -------- HEADS UP THE LAST TIME BAMA AND THE BUCKEYES MET UP IN 2014. IT WAS SETTLED ON THE FIELD BY THE BUCKEYES AS THEY DESTROYED THE TIDE.AND THE ONLY PERSON WHO HAS RAN FOR MORE YARDS OVER ALABAMA THAN EZEKIAL ELLIOT WAS FORREST GUMP. AND THEN WE DESTROYED OREGON. NOBODY GAVE US A CHANCE IN 2002 WHEN WE PLAYED THE INVINCILBLE MIAMI HURRICANES EITHER. BUT I HAVE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP HAT PROVING THEY WON BOTH.

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NO!!!!!....You WRONG again :lol: :lol:....Actually the header of this thread is HOMERS with horrible cases of the debilitating scourge known as Envytidehatesec...Concerned if there is 'An SEC Conspiracy theory" and if Mel Gibson and Jim Garrison are correct :lol: :lol:

Who cares about ohio/michigan nationally?...Nobody...Except the media wondering if Michigan can hang on in that 4th spot,which is hilarious that they would be there anyhow.

This is THE TIDE and Auburn week!!!.....THE GAME...The Biggest rivalry in College football History..THE IRON BOWL..ohio is 2nd tier....To answer you ?..ALL programs would love to have THE TIDE's history,including ohio for sure.

IN REALITY....THE TIDE has won 13 National Titles....ohio has won 4

Nobody cares about Pinnochio Meyer in this college football loving country!! :lol:Surely you know that!! Especially in Florida and Alabama...Except HOMERs and the numbers have dwindled. Nobody respects this frontrunning phony...In Fact...He has become a laughingstock....a cartoon character...A caricature of himself that college football hasnt seen since Les Miles :lol: His dramatic performance last week should get pontiff consideration for a Tony award...Or a Daytime Emmy...Or even An Oscar for the best performance of a supporting Actor...Misleads but doesnt mean to?....Selective memory loss?...What a big bunch of bullshit :lol: :lol: ...He fits right in though at this place!..Like hand and glove..Steve Spurrier is BY FAR the best Coach for The Gators Ever...Without question

Everyone KNOWS WHAT THE TIDE has accomplished and NOBODY else is even close...LSU has WON 2 National Championships in football playing in BY FAR the best and toughest conference in America..And have won more games than anyone in the big 14 this century sans ohio,and have played much tougher competition on a weekly and yearly basis.

Since 2002 when ohio upset THE U,THE SEC have won 10 National Championships in football by 4 different schools

Since the 2009 season THE TIDE and War EAGLE have combined to win 16 more games than #hi# and Michigan and have lost 7 less games.

Since the 2009 season THE SEC has had 4 Heisman trophy winners. 2 RB's from THE TIDE...A QB for War Eagle...And a QB for Texas A&M......There have NONE fron the big 14 :lol:

Since the 2009 season....And exclude this season...Alabama has won 5 National Championships and Auburn has won 1!!

What is even MORE stunning is that in 2009,2010,2011,2012,2013,2015,and 2016.....The WINNER of College Football's PREEMINENT Rivalry game between THE TIDE and Auburn has either WON the National Championship or finished Runnerup :lol: :lol: ....Would have been 8/9 if Auburn would have beat Ga in the rematch last yr for THE SEC Crown....BUT,,Instead of Auburn being in the playoffs last year...?..It was Georgia :lol: :lol:

ohio-Michigan winner since the 2009 season has won 1 national championship and that was the BIGGEST political farce in the history of college football..A JOKE

Now YTB I would'nt worry about How,When,Why,and Where I put my info and posts...If it bothers you to read TRUTH....And FACTS?....Dont read it.....Or get you another slug of tea :lol: :lol:


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