OSU President Gee speaks out against Boise St and TCU

[Hoggy]

I took it as though javon white when talking about Izzo was meaning OSU basketball should schedule tougher non conference.

OSU football schedules one non conf game a year against BCS level schools and then pads their schedule with MAC schools... bottom tier E.Mich, at that. I'll give them Marshall and OU but come on, Eastern Michigan. A team that is annually bottom 10 in the country. No way can you use the excuse of schedules being made out 10 years in advance. Did OSU schedule makers really think they were going to be any more of a challenge than if they played Hilliard Davidson? Need to go back to days of wins against FCS schools not counting toward bowl eligibility. Maybe even requiring a minimum number of games vs BCS level schools.

We can't all play Wofford, Liberty and Coastal Carolina. Bottom line all the big conference teams play a few cup cakes but everyone wants to bash Ohio State. It is jealousy, if Ohio State would have blown a lead like Saban and Alabama did the talking heads would be saying how JT choked but since it was Saban, Auburn was just better.

Come on now....didn't you know Ohio State is the only team to schedule weaker out of conference teams. I totally agree, Bama and the great Saban, pulled one of the biggest choke jobs that I have ever witnessed. Do you think they get bashed by the media?

[The General]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/s ... id=5854511

Another viewpoint.

[ManitouDan]

Equating playing in the big ten and SEC are 2 different animals. Year in , Year out , week in , week out (with very exceptions) SEC teams get challenged on a much more consistent basis than does big ten teams. Both are top of the food chain conference but there's only One # 1 , and it ain't the big ten. C'mon OSU played 2 tough games this year , Wisc and Iowa (Iowa's a stretch) Bama has played 7 teams ranked in the top twenty --you are reading correctly ! 7 out of the 12 games in the top twenty ! How would Boise or TCU handle that ?

[ManitouDan]

7 teams ranked at the time Bama played them to be exact

[The General]

I agree about the SEC COMPLETELY...AND Iowa is a very big stretch. And I still know that Boise and TCU are outstanding teams who would find the going awfully rough week in and week out in the league. And I still know that Alabama is one of the top few teams in the country,even with 3 losses in the SEC

[Raiderball]

Hoggy and Charge... I have posted many times that WVU could/should pick up tougher non conf game than Coastal Carolina/Wofford. I have also stated that OSU is used as an example because we are in Ohio and most are familiar with their schedule. On another post I have mentioned Alabama playing 1st year IA Georgia St among others.
You morons defend OSU weak ass schedule by putting down other teams schedules. You can't face the truth.
Your tough non conference game against Miami.... they just lost to a middle of the pack team from the Big Least... (at home by the way) as you like to refer to it. How impressive is you win against them now?

[The General]

Not very... ...But pretty huge when you consider the conquests of Marshall,OU,EMU,Purdue,Illinois,Minnesota,Michigan,Indiana,Iowa,and Penn State.

[Hoggy]

Hoggy and Charge... I have posted many times that WVU could/should pick up tougher non conf game than Coastal Carolina/Wofford. I have also stated that OSU is used as an example because we are in Ohio and most are familiar with their schedule. On another post I have mentioned Alabama playing 1st year IA Georgia St among others.
You morons defend OSU weak booty schedule by putting down other teams schedules. You can't face the truth.
Your tough non conference game against Miami.... they just lost to a middle of the pack team from the Big Least... (at home by the way) as you like to refer to it. How impressive is you win against them now?

Wasn't addressing you numb nuts, but apparently you feel the need to chime in and get your jabs in whenever you can. In case you need it broken down Barnie style.....I have admitted and agreed about the weak non-conference schedule the Buckeyes play, but once again, why do all of the OSU haters feel the need to point out the obvious? I can accept it more from an SEC fan, but coming from a WVU supporter I find it amusing. I guess you want someone to compliment you on your infinite wisdom of the game and how you discovered something that was meant to be a secret. Give it a rest "Moron" and come to terms that the current system enables this type of scheduling....like it or not! I wish the system was different, but until it changes or forces teams to schedule top 25 teams every week, all we can do is support our teams and be thankful we aren't experiencing the frustrations that Michigan and Notre Dame supporters are currently experiencing.

You can only beat a dead horse so many different ways Goober!

[javon white]

Ohio State does play a much better schedule next year-Akron (not so good), Toledo (one of the best MAC schools), Colorado, soon to be new Big Ten member Nebraska and Michigan State. Plus, they will have a conference championship game.

You really need to read Gee's comments about big time athletics when he was at Vanderbilt (he got widespread praise for doing away with the athletic department there and putting it under the intramural department) and he did do a good job there as he has done at OSU (both times), West Virginia and the Ivies. In fact, he is one of the nation's best presidents.

My beef is that anyone who attended OSU hears the word "diversity" the whole time they are there and that OSU strives for it. In fact, their largest scholarship, the Morrill Scholarship, is preferred to be awarded to an incoming freshman whose parents have never had the opportunity to attend college and/or who is a first generational college student. With his comments (whether one agrees with them or not), he does not appear to be in favor of "diversity" when he talks about the small non-BCS schools and "the little sisters of the poor".

I do somewhat understand his comments but I just don't think someone who played OSU's schedule this year is the best spokesperson about a team playing the "little sisters of the poor".

The bottom line is money and the BCS provides it for the BCS schools-no one wants to give up their share of the pie and that is understandable. President Gee is one of the loudest proponents of the BCS as it generally brings OSU a large amount of money and there is nothing wrong with that. A better system would be to do what every other division and sport does in the NCAA-have a playoff. I strongly suspect that they could make a lot of money, if not more, if they wanted, take care of the big football programs (all of which still have lavish athletic departments) while taking care of the "little sisters of the poor" as the NCAA hoops tourney does each year with its play in game. I also strongly suspect that if they wanted to that they could keep most of the bowls in effect as well rotating the first, second, third and championship rounds of the playoffs each year between them.

Now if the same situation occurs next year, I could see President Gee having some legitimacy with the "little sisters of the poor" comment as their schedule is more legitimate. This year with the 2010 Buckeye schedule was simply not the best year for President Gee to make such a comment.

[Yossarian]

In an article on espn.com, President Gee has been quoted as saying that both TCU and Boise State have not played schedules tough enough to warrant an appearance in the National Championship game if either would run the table.

He also states that the SEC and Big Ten teams do not play "the sisters of the poor".

Now as a Buckeye fanatic, I agree with the schedule situation of both TCU and Boise. All of their "big wins" this year have proven to be against subpar competition as the teams they got big wins over went on to lose games against struggling programs, by large margins.

But I dont think it is a great idea for Gee to be chiming in on football schedules, national championships and who has earned what.

Thoughts?

I agree he needs to stick to academics and let the play on the field do the Buckeye's talking. I like the guy but wasn't he the one that said a tie with Michigan was a great win one season?