D3 Tournament Thread

[bbjunky81]

If I’m not mistaken fan of the youth is a Valley fan.

Whether they got the 4 or 5 that wouldn’t have changed their matchup….. and I don’t see why they would have been able to jump up to #3 over Zane Trace.

All in all, I think the coaches did a very good job across all 3 brackets this year. Sure, a team could possibly move a spot or so….. but I’m not seeing any extreme outliers in any division

Agreed. Personally, I like Valley's path to the District Final more than I do Zane Trace's.

I would agree with that. Valley has a slightly “easier” path to the district final, but then Minford will (most likely) be waiting there. I’d imagine most teams were hoping to avoid Minford.


In my personal opinion, of all the D3 teams that might be able to knock off Minford —- Valley is at the top of that list. It’s tough to beat a team 3 times in a season and players from both teams have played against each other since they were in elementary school. If both can get there, that would be a fun District final matchup.

[Tri-StateYouthSports]

Where do you see how each coach voted?

Supposed to be private among the coaches, but usually people find out one way or another.

East District posts a voting matrix for each of their Divisions.

Example their D-II voting matrix. (https://www.ohsaa.org/East-Sports-Tourn ... on-II-2023)




SEDAB should absolutely do this as well.

[Ironman92]

Where do you see how each coach voted?

Supposed to be private among the coaches, but usually people find out one way or another.

East District posts a voting matrix for each of their Divisions.

Example their D-II voting matrix. (https://www.ohsaa.org/East-Sports-Tourn ... on-II-2023)




SEDAB should absolutely do this as well.

100%….they are out there. Any Coach being ridiculous would be known, might not change much since they didn’t have the integrity in the first place to not be ridiculous.

If Portsmouth finished as a #19 seed, I’d be interested to what teams seeded them even lower than that….not saying anything ridiculous but just maybe a mess of #20-21 seeds that didn’t tally favorably in the end.

[trojandave]

Portsmouth being seeded #18 didn't surprise me, because we have been very inconsistent. I was hoping for something other than the South Point bracket, but we have to beat Peebles first. We have played a lot of close games, with the biggest margin of defeat being 18 points at South Point early in the season (73-55).

Lost 72-71 to Coal Grove on a 3 pointer at the buzzer
Lost 56-53 in OT to South Point on a 3 pointer at the buzzer
Lost at Ironton In OT 77-71 with an infamous no call near the end of regulation
Lost 72-70 at North Adams; Green Devils scored with 4 seconds to play
Lost 64-60 at Coal Grove
Won 58-57 over Wesley Christian in the Ironton Classic
Won 76-75 vs. Rock Hill
Won 52-48 at Rock Hill

Best win: 80-69 at Fairland, outscored the Dragons 50-31 in the 2nd half.

Bottom line: The Trojans can hang with anybody offensively, but the majority of their problems have been on the defensive end. If that continues, it will be a very short stay in the tourney. Portsmouth hasn't won a sectional since 2017.

[pembrook burrows III]

IMO, it was no coincidence that South Point, Fairland, and Portsmouth were all voted into the same district sub-bracket. Nobody outside the OVC wants to face any of those squads in the early rounds.

[Ironman92]

IMO, it was no coincidence that South Point, Fairland, and Portsmouth were all voted into the same district sub-bracket. Nobody outside the OVC wants to face any of those squads in the early rounds.

The grid would show that to be true or false

[bbjunky81]

IMO, it was no coincidence that South Point, Fairland, and Portsmouth were all voted into the same district sub-bracket. Nobody outside the OVC wants to face any of those squads in the early rounds.

Eh... I'm normally a fan of conspiracy theories and whatnot, but I struggle to find this true.

First off, in a Super Sectional, it's soooooo much harder to put the shtick to a team or teams. The highest and lowest seed get thrown out, so the averages are typically pretty dead on with where they belong.

I'd say that Fairland and Portsmouth's inconsistencies is what led them to be seeded where they were, which ended up putting them in the same bracket. Fairland losing to West Portsmouth is one of the biggest head scratchers of the 2022-2023 season. Wheelersburg beat West twice and has a better record than Fairland so it's no surprise they're ranked above them. Who else could Fairland have jumped?

Portsmouth maybe could have been a spot or two higher, but again, their own inconsistencies kind of let the air out of any argument they had to move up.

[Dragonguy13]

IMO, it was no coincidence that South Point, Fairland, and Portsmouth were all voted into the same district sub-bracket. Nobody outside the OVC wants to face any of those squads in the early rounds.

Eh... I'm normally a fan of conspiracy theories and whatnot, but I struggle to find this true.

First off, in a Super Sectional, it's soooooo much harder to put the shtick to a team or teams. The highest and lowest seed get thrown out, so the averages are typically pretty dead on with where they belong.

I'd say that Fairland and Portsmouth's inconsistencies is what led them to be seeded where they were, which ended up putting them in the same bracket. Fairland losing to West Portsmouth is one of the biggest head scratchers of the 2022-2023 season. Wheelersburg beat West twice and has a better record than Fairland so it's no surprise they're ranked above them. Who else could Fairland have jumped?

Portsmouth maybe could have been a spot or two higher, but again, their own inconsistencies kind of let the air out of any argument they had to move up.

I think you’re spot on about Fairland. They’ve been up and down this year but definitely a team to keep an eye on. They sit exactly where I thought they would be. Kinda thought NW might jump them but the loss Friday and FHS strength of schedule I believe got them the 7. I don’t see anyone 1-6 who they should be in front of for sure.

[coop]

My gripe would be of I'm NA, they DRUBBED ZT and only had a few more losses.

NA and ZT didn’t play this year. No idea why that says that on maxpreps. ZT’s losses are to Vinton Co, Miami Trace and Warren

NA beat Chesapeake on 11/29

Very weird.

[coop]

If I’m not mistaken fan of the youth is a Valley fan.

Whether they got the 4 or 5 that wouldn’t have changed their matchup….. and I don’t see why they would have been able to jump up to #3 over Zane Trace.

All in all, I think the coaches did a very good job across all 3 brackets this year. Sure, a team could possibly move a spot or so….. but I’m not seeing any extreme outliers in any division

Agreed. Personally, I like Valley's path to the District Final more than I do Zane Trace's.

I would agree with that. Valley has a slightly “easier” path to the district final, but then Minford will (most likely) be waiting there. I’d imagine most teams were hoping to avoid Minford.


In my personal opinion, of all the D3 teams that might be able to knock off Minford —- Valley is at the top of that list. It’s tough to beat a team 3 times in a season and players from both teams have played against each other since they were in elementary school. If both can get there, that would be a fun District final matchup.

Both games were very close... I know in the 2nd game Minford was up, and Valley stormed back to tie it, but Falcons got the W.

[Crab's Brother]

IMO, it was no coincidence that South Point, Fairland, and Portsmouth were all voted into the same district sub-bracket. Nobody outside the OVC wants to face any of those squads in the early rounds.

There are way too many variables in this to make that happen.

In the old set up with 3 sectional, you bet your last dollar it did. Now? I just do not see how a group of high school coaches could pull it off.

[bbjunky81]

IMO, it was no coincidence that South Point, Fairland, and Portsmouth were all voted into the same district sub-bracket. Nobody outside the OVC wants to face any of those squads in the early rounds.

There are way too many variables in this to make that happen.

In the old set up with 3 sectional, you bet your last dollar it did. Now? I just do not see how a group of high school coaches could pull it off.

Totally agree. The math would be near impossible to figure out prior considering the abundance of coaches all voting within the same super sectional.

[wobycat]

Burg has made me think they can win the district now. They are starting to close on games that the previously couldn't. Tough district, but I think they are one of the teams that can pull it out.

[coop]

District Finals Prediction:

#5 Valley vs #1 Minford
#6 Burg vs #2 South Point

[Blitz]

District Finals Prediction:

#4 Valley vs #1 Minford
#5 Burg vs #2 South Point

I would say this is most likely...Burg is #6 though

[bbjunky81]

My predictions for District Semis:

#1 Minford vs. #8 Northwest
#4 North Adams vs. #5 Valley

#2 South Point vs. #7 Fairland
#3 Zane Trace vs. #6 Wheelersburg

Finals:

#1 Minford vs. #5 Valley
#2 South Point vs. #6 Wheelersburg

Regional Semis:

#1 Minford vs. #2 South Point

Minford wins to play in the Regional final.








No real surprises on my picks. #6 Burg could be beat by #3 Zane Trace, we might be sleeping on Zane Trace a touch. Fairland isn't the Fairland of old but they could potentially knock off South Point in the semi's.

If Wheelersburg were to play South Point that would be a great game, I just think South Point has the type of horse that could lead them to a district title. Burg more balanced and deeper.

[coop]

District Finals Prediction:

#4 Valley vs #1 Minford
#5 Burg vs #2 South Point

I would say this is most likely...Burg is #6 though

I fixed that thank you!!

[coop]

My predictions for District Semis:

#1 Minford vs. #8 Northwest
#4 North Adams vs. #5 Valley

#2 South Point vs. #7 Fairland
#3 Zane Trace vs. #6 Wheelersburg

Finals:

#1 Minford vs. #5 Valley
#2 South Point vs. #6 Wheelersburg

Regional Semis:

#1 Minford vs. #2 South Point

Minford wins to play in the Regional final.








No real surprises on my picks. #6 Burg could be beat by #3 Zane Trace, we might be sleeping on Zane Trace a touch. Fairland isn't the Fairland of old but they could potentially knock off South Point in the semi's.

If Wheelersburg were to play South Point that would be a great game, I just think South Point has the type of horse that could lead them to a district title. Burg more balanced and deeper.

Pretty good picks! A few games could go either way, You could see a Burg vs Valley final, just as well as the Minford/SP. Valley and Minford match up well and have played 2 great games, and Valley and Burg split with the difference being less than 10 TOTAL points in both games.

Should be exciting tournament.

[MattyIce]

North Adams will beat Valley in the District Semis.

[bbjunky81]

North Adams will beat Valley in the District Semis.

I don't know, maybe. We're all probably a little too down on Valley. End of the day - Copley and Buckle are two very talented kids. Another 1000 point scorer in Arnett, and a 6'8" kid in the middle. I got a feeling they figure it out before tournament.