I don’t know about that but Schwartz is definitely a ref that likes to be seen. I don’t think he’s as good as he thinks he is. I just thought the officiating was inconsistent for both teams. It hurt burg because they let it frustrate them hence why they acted like they did.Larry Fine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:49 amSo you’re hinting around that Schwartzel does not like Wheelersburg and intentionally calls an unfair game when Burg plays ? Also that the referees would watch the Burg players get “hammered” and would intentionally not call the foul ?yabbadabbadoo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:27 amRBH23 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:38 pm
No one said Northwest won because of the officials. Northwest was absolutely the better team. Would probably beat Burg 7-8x out of 10 games.
But the officials simply called an inconsistent game. That fact can be true as well.
This isn’t rocket science folks. Was not hard to see both were true even for people who have never played, never coached, or never officiated.
NW was the better team but bottom line NW was allowed to play more physical and it showed. Wasn't surprised of the foul discrepancy especially when I saw Schwartzel was one of the officials. That guy has had a hardon for Burg for years and no one really knows why. He made two total calls in Burg's favorite and I know this because I kept track of him. Not sure who the other two officals were but when one team (Burg) drives the lane, gets hammered with no call and the other team (NW) drives the lane and gets the call on the same type of play, yeah it's going to alter one teams play. Burg's offense all season was driving to the hole and getting a layup or the foul. They weren't getting the fouls on Saturday. Still not saying officials alone cost the Burg. NW was stronger. NW was just able to play there game. Burg wasn't!!!
It's funny that I was listening to the radio guys on WNXT and one of them said that I can betcha all of Scioto County was pulling for the Mohawks today just made me chuckle. Seemed about right.
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I would 100% agree with you that Kevin Schwartzel is not as good as he thinks he is. Have thought that forever, despite his referee HOF induction.wobycat wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:18 amI don’t know about that but Schwartz is definitely a ref that likes to be seen. I don’t think he’s as good as he thinks he is. I just thought the officiating was inconsistent for both teams. It hurt burg because they let it frustrate them hence why they acted like they did.Larry Fine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:49 amSo you’re hinting around that Schwartzel does not like Wheelersburg and intentionally calls an unfair game when Burg plays ? Also that the referees would watch the Burg players get “hammered” and would intentionally not call the foul ?yabbadabbadoo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:27 am
NW was the better team but bottom line NW was allowed to play more physical and it showed. Wasn't surprised of the foul discrepancy especially when I saw Schwartzel was one of the officials. That guy has had a hardon for Burg for years and no one really knows why. He made two total calls in Burg's favorite and I know this because I kept track of him. Not sure who the other two officals were but when one team (Burg) drives the lane, gets hammered with no call and the other team (NW) drives the lane and gets the call on the same type of play, yeah it's going to alter one teams play. Burg's offense all season was driving to the hole and getting a layup or the foul. They weren't getting the fouls on Saturday. Still not saying officials alone cost the Burg. NW was stronger. NW was just able to play there game. Burg wasn't!!!
It's funny that I was listening to the radio guys on WNXT and one of them said that I can betcha all of Scioto County was pulling for the Mohawks today just made me chuckle. Seemed about right.
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Ok that makes sense . I knew something wasn’t right. Burg players and coaches don’t act that way for no reason. That had to be frustrating watching that happen the whole time.wobycat wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:18 amI don’t know about that but Schwartz is definitely a ref that likes to be seen. I don’t think he’s as good as he thinks he is. I just thought the officiating was inconsistent for both teams. It hurt burg because they let it frustrate them hence why they acted like they did.Larry Fine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:49 amSo you’re hinting around that Schwartzel does not like Wheelersburg and intentionally calls an unfair game when Burg plays ? Also that the referees would watch the Burg players get “hammered” and would intentionally not call the foul ?yabbadabbadoo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:27 am
NW was the better team but bottom line NW was allowed to play more physical and it showed. Wasn't surprised of the foul discrepancy especially when I saw Schwartzel was one of the officials. That guy has had a hardon for Burg for years and no one really knows why. He made two total calls in Burg's favorite and I know this because I kept track of him. Not sure who the other two officals were but when one team (Burg) drives the lane, gets hammered with no call and the other team (NW) drives the lane and gets the call on the same type of play, yeah it's going to alter one teams play. Burg's offense all season was driving to the hole and getting a layup or the foul. They weren't getting the fouls on Saturday. Still not saying officials alone cost the Burg. NW was stronger. NW was just able to play there game. Burg wasn't!!!
It's funny that I was listening to the radio guys on WNXT and one of them said that I can betcha all of Scioto County was pulling for the Mohawks today just made me chuckle. Seemed about right.
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"I'm picking up some sarcasm." Tommy BoyLarry Fine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:41 amOk that makes sense . I knew something wasn’t right. Burg players and coaches don’t act that way for no reason. That had to be frustrating watching that happen the whole time.wobycat wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:18 amI don’t know about that but Schwartz is definitely a ref that likes to be seen. I don’t think he’s as good as he thinks he is. I just thought the officiating was inconsistent for both teams. It hurt burg because they let it frustrate them hence why they acted like they did.Larry Fine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:49 am
So you’re hinting around that Schwartzel does not like Wheelersburg and intentionally calls an unfair game when Burg plays ? Also that the referees would watch the Burg players get “hammered” and would intentionally not call the foul ?
Man people love dumping on the Burg. Lol
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Bingo!! No one knows why he hates Burg. I had heard him and Coach Barrick got into about 15 years ago and he has held a grudge since.Larry Fine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:49 amSo you’re hinting around that Schwartzel does not like Wheelersburg and intentionally calls an unfair game when Burg plays ? Also that the referees would watch the Burg players get “hammered” and would intentionally not call the foul ?yabbadabbadoo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:27 amRBH23 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:38 pm
No one said Northwest won because of the officials. Northwest was absolutely the better team. Would probably beat Burg 7-8x out of 10 games.
But the officials simply called an inconsistent game. That fact can be true as well.
This isn’t rocket science folks. Was not hard to see both were true even for people who have never played, never coached, or never officiated.
NW was the better team but bottom line NW was allowed to play more physical and it showed. Wasn't surprised of the foul discrepancy especially when I saw Schwartzel was one of the officials. That guy has had a hardon for Burg for years and no one really knows why. He made two total calls in Burg's favorite and I know this because I kept track of him. Not sure who the other two officals were but when one team (Burg) drives the lane, gets hammered with no call and the other team (NW) drives the lane and gets the call on the same type of play, yeah it's going to alter one teams play. Burg's offense all season was driving to the hole and getting a layup or the foul. They weren't getting the fouls on Saturday. Still not saying officials alone cost the Burg. NW was stronger. NW was just able to play there game. Burg wasn't!!!
It's funny that I was listening to the radio guys on WNXT and one of them said that I can betcha all of Scioto County was pulling for the Mohawks today just made me chuckle. Seemed about right.
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How many times are the same people going to type “Northwest was better but the refs screwed us!”
Wheelersburg athletics is superior in every way to Northwest. You lost one year. Let them have this one without making excuses.
Maybe Northwest got more calls because Lintz was able to drive past anyone guarding him and Wheelersburg wasn’t able to?
Wheelersburg athletics is superior in every way to Northwest. You lost one year. Let them have this one without making excuses.
Maybe Northwest got more calls because Lintz was able to drive past anyone guarding him and Wheelersburg wasn’t able to?
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I've been thinking the same thing, deep down they can't believe Northwest beat them , so the refs beat them. bUT Northwest has a good team! lol
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Same ole crybaby burg fan that bitch about the refs every game and also hate Swartz and bashes him Everytime he sees him , sounds like he's the one with the hardon .
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I watched the game with unbiased eyes and not one time did I think the referees had anything to do with the outcome. Northwest was just better and based off what they did to Portsmouth a few days prior, I don’t think they would’ve beaten Burg 7/10 times like one poster said. I think it would be more along the 9-10/10 times. Northwest has a great team and you can tell they have played together for a long time. Very fluid and always seemed to be one step ahead in this tournament run so far.
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I know Ironton and Wheelersburg always goes back and forth on recruiting thing. So in reality then, Wheelersburg only scored 42 points, right. Now consider the one transfer in scored 26 out of those, that leaves only 16 points scored from homegrown talent. That's not going to get any team very far. My outlook on this game was the Mohawks took them to the house all nite!
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That's right buddy. How many games have you watched him ref a Burg game over the years? I saw what I saw in all of those games and I will continue to post how horrible he is after every Burg game because he will never change. His beef was with Coach Barrick and for some reason he is still taking it out on the Burg kids.
He's pathetic and I'll always say it. Schawrtzel called 2 fouls on NW and he was the one under the basket most of the game.
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Prime Time wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:49 pm I know Ironton and Wheelersburg always goes back and forth on recruiting thing. So in reality then, Wheelersburg only scored 42 points, right. Now consider the one transfer in scored 26 out of those, that leaves only 16 points scored from homegrown talent. That's not going to get any team very far. My outlook on this game was the Mohawks took them to the house all nite!
Burg don’t grow em like they used to. Or did they ever grow their own?
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Good ol TigerBob spewing the crap again. Not one Burg fan said the refs screwed Burg. Everyone is saying NW was able to play more physical and it affected Burg's style of play, which is taking the ball to the hole. Burg was a young team and once they started getting hammered with no calls, took them out of their game.TigerBob wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:01 pm How many times are the same people going to type “Northwest was better but the refs screwed us!”
Wheelersburg athletics is superior in every way to Northwest. You lost one year. Let them have this one without making excuses.
Maybe Northwest got more calls because Lintz was able to drive past anyone guarding him and Wheelersburg wasn’t able to?
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Says the man whose team is playing with what, 3 Burg transfers!!!The Ghost of Swanker wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:16 pmPrime Time wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:49 pm I know Ironton and Wheelersburg always goes back and forth on recruiting thing. So in reality then, Wheelersburg only scored 42 points, right. Now consider the one transfer in scored 26 out of those, that leaves only 16 points scored from homegrown talent. That's not going to get any team very far. My outlook on this game was the Mohawks took them to the house all nite!
Burg don’t grow em like they used to. Or did they ever grow their own?
You are a clown!!
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So it was the refs that lost the game to the Mohawks, one ref for years hates the Burg kids, ok that answers all the reasons why Northwest pounded them with the help of one ref. Wow! Gotta luv this!
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Now where was wagoner from? I can't remember?The Ghost of Swanker wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:16 pmPrime Time wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:49 pm I know Ironton and Wheelersburg always goes back and forth on recruiting thing. So in reality then, Wheelersburg only scored 42 points, right. Now consider the one transfer in scored 26 out of those, that leaves only 16 points scored from homegrown talent. That's not going to get any team very far. My outlook on this game was the Mohawks took them to the house all nite!
Burg don’t grow em like they used to. Or did they ever grow their own?
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Prime Time wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:49 pm I know Ironton and Wheelersburg always goes back and forth on recruiting thing. So in reality then, Wheelersburg only scored 42 points, right. Now consider the one transfer in scored 26 out of those, that leaves only 16 points scored from homegrown talent. That's not going to get any team very far. My outlook on this game was the Mohawks took them to the house all nite!
You are correct and Burg fans have said that all year. They would not have even made it out of the Sectional had they not had Lattimore but at least Burg fans can step up and admit that. ASk Ironton how many games they would have won in football over the last 6 years without all of the transfers. You will get crickets from that group!!
Ask Swanker how far his team would have went if it wasn't for the transfers from Burg!!
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You are literally naming the ref who has an alleged decade plus agenda against Wheelersburg! God you are dumb.yabbadabbadoo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:20 pmGood ol TigerBob spewing the crap again. Not one Burg fan said the refs screwed Burg. Everyone is saying NW was able to play more physical and it affected Burg's style of play, which is taking the ball to the hole. Burg was a young team and once they started getting hammered with no calls, took them out of their game.TigerBob wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:01 pm How many times are the same people going to type “Northwest was better but the refs screwed us!”
Wheelersburg athletics is superior in every way to Northwest. You lost one year. Let them have this one without making excuses.
Maybe Northwest got more calls because Lintz was able to drive past anyone guarding him and Wheelersburg wasn’t able to?
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That’s what I thought, I reread his post and laughed at the double talk! This guy is a Hall of Fame referee and he’s got a agenda against one team, that’s laughable but in peoples minds there has to be a excuse for losing.
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Reading comprehension is really bad on this board. You must have went to IHS with their solid 2 star education.Prime Time wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:21 pm So it was the refs that lost the game to the Mohawks, one ref for years hates the Burg kids, ok that answers all the reasons why Northwest pounded them with the help of one ref. Wow! Gotta luv this!
Not one Burg fan has said “NW won because of the refs.” The fact is every Burg fan has given nothing but praise to the NW team stating that the better team won.
We are simply pointing out a bad ref who really shouldn’t be officiating based on this performance. I didn’t know his name or background issues with Burg, but it was clear his bias watching the game.