After seeing this game/ Oak Hill has some good talent and are very well coached. The Burg is getting better each and every game I see them play, more aggressive on defense and not settling just for the 3 ball, driving to the hole and causing more pressure on the defense. Coleman is a very good player and the reason at least on this night that he did not score like he usually does, was because he only played 3 minutes in first half because of fowl trouble. Anytime I hear anyone bringing up the (bad refs) caused this or that, it makes me sick, I have always played and taught others that you have to be better than bad calls, it is not what happens to you that counts, it is how you react to it that does. I believe that both teams our very sound/ just speaking to this game played, Burg need to improve on their free throws to have a chance on going deep in tourney , they missed 16 .Oaktown wrote:My apologies, not trying to make it personal. With that being said, in two games with Burg, Oak Hill is still 3 points better. Oak Hill has the resume to support it and Burg does not. The only comparable basis we have to go on is that they split meetings and you were beaten by the same South Webster team we disposed of by 22 points. If Burg wins that game maybe you have a legitimate argument.wobycat wrote:Burg isn't that great either but I believe they're better than oak hill. Holden and lowery are legit. Coleman is very solid. The other two are fundamental. Dyer off the bench provides height and athletic ability. You don't have to be salty about another man's opinion.
I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this one.
SOC2 (2016-17) Schedule/Results/Standings
Re: SOC2 (2016-17) Schedule/Results/Standings
Re: SOC2 (2016-17) Schedule/Results/Standings
Right, but you lost to South Webster 3 weeks into the season and Oak Hill didn't beat you until January. How long are you going to use that excuse? Are you guys going to still be saying in March if you lose in the tournament that it was because you started 3 weeks later than everyone else?wobycat wrote:I wouldn't think that you would believe burg is better, but at least keep in mind that burg went deep in football playoffs missing around three weeks of practice, and getting used to the court.Oaktown wrote:My apologies, not trying to make it personal. With that being said, in two games with Burg, Oak Hill is still 3 points better. Oak Hill has the resume to support it and Burg does not. The only comparable basis we have to go on is that they split meetings and you were beaten by the same South Webster team we disposed of by 22 points. If Burg wins that game maybe you have a legitimate argument.wobycat wrote:Burg isn't that great either but I believe they're better than oak hill. Holden and lowery are legit. Coleman is very solid. The other two are fundamental. Dyer off the bench provides height and athletic ability. You don't have to be salty about another man's opinion.
I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this one.
Re: SOC2 (2016-17) Schedule/Results/Standings
While we are bringing up Burg being 3 weeks behind this year (4 last year), let's bring this up.
Oak Hill has basketball as their last period of the day YEAR ROUND. No other coach gets access to these "practices". So not only is Burg behind 3 weeks on the Oaks...
If they play in the tournament, Burg will win again. The defensive game plan was great, and the Burg's game plan and defense held them to 40. I have yet to hear people talking about how the game plan held Hale to 2 points.
Oak Hill has basketball as their last period of the day YEAR ROUND. No other coach gets access to these "practices". So not only is Burg behind 3 weeks on the Oaks...
If they play in the tournament, Burg will win again. The defensive game plan was great, and the Burg's game plan and defense held them to 40. I have yet to hear people talking about how the game plan held Hale to 2 points.
Re: SOC2 (2016-17) Schedule/Results/Standings
I will let the rest of the SOC2 know they need to take a 3 week break to let Wheelersburg get all caught up.hoops37 wrote:While we are bringing up Burg being 3 weeks behind this year (4 last year), let's bring this up.
Oak Hill has basketball as their last period of the day YEAR ROUND. No other coach gets access to these "practices". So not only is Burg behind 3 weeks on the Oaks...
If they play in the tournament, Burg will win again. The defensive game plan was great, and the Burg's game plan and defense held them to 40. I have yet to hear people talking about how the game plan held Hale to 2 points.
- Mad-Dogg
- SEOP
- Posts: 4161
- Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:34 pm
- Location: Wheelersburg Oh home of the 2x State Champs, 8x Regional Champs and 34x SOC Div 2 Champs
- Contact:
Re: SOC2 (2016-17) Schedule/Results/Standings
Typical oaks fan. Bein a smart arseOaktown wrote:I will let the rest of the SOC2 know they need to take a 3 week break to let Wheelersburg get all caught up.hoops37 wrote:While we are bringing up Burg being 3 weeks behind this year (4 last year), let's bring this up.
Oak Hill has basketball as their last period of the day YEAR ROUND. No other coach gets access to these "practices". So not only is Burg behind 3 weeks on the Oaks...
If they play in the tournament, Burg will win again. The defensive game plan was great, and the Burg's game plan and defense held them to 40. I have yet to hear people talking about how the game plan held Hale to 2 points.
It's not the size of the dog in the fight. It's the size of the fight in the dog. (D Jay on Hustle & Flow)
Fearless Bold Tough
We Are The Storm
Make It Rain
Reach Higher
Power Of One
Respect The W
Be The Best
Fearless Bold Tough
We Are The Storm
Make It Rain
Reach Higher
Power Of One
Respect The W
Be The Best
-
- SEOP
- Posts: 4597
- Joined: Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:50 pm
Re: SOC2 (2016-17) Schedule/Results/Standings
Oaktown wrote:bbjunky81 wrote:wobycat wrote:Burg isn't that great either but I believe they're better than oak hill. Holden and lowery are legit. Coleman is very solid. The other two are fundamental. Dyer off the bench provides height and athletic ability. You don't have to be salty about another man's opinion.
You have this butchered... Holden and Coleman are legit***.. Coleman is the best big man in the league, hands down. Lowery is OK I guess, but legit is a little much.
So you missed Long holding Coleman to 4 points the other night then? Add in his blocked shots and double digit rebounds and Coleman was a non-factor in that game. There's more to being the best big than just scoring points on teams with no post defenders. How about defense and rebounds? Kind of important stuff in basketball.
I would honestly stop talking about how great and wonderful you think you have become over night and start worrying about a very good Waverly team that can easily hang another L on your head.
Are you serious??? Those two fouls Kaden picked up in the first qtr were total BS!!! One on a moving screen that both teams did the rest of the night and another one was never called and the 2nd on a drive where there was very little contact. Also, he wasn't "held" to 4 points by anyone. IMO, he didn't touch the ball enough in the paint because OH had no one that could cover him down there. We're talking about a player that was averaging around 20-25 points a game the last 3-4 games and I bet he didn't shoot the ball 5 times in this game. When No. 14 for OH picked up his 3rd foul early in the 3rd qtr and then he was still guarding Coleman, HE HARDLY EVEN TOUCHED THE BALL AFTER THAT!!!!!!They could have easily gotten him out of the game because he struggled with Coleman's strength underneath. You can't score if you don't get the ball. At least that is the way it was when I played ball.
Re: SOC2 (2016-17) Schedule/Results/Standings
Standings (Updated Feb-04 05:07 PM)
=========================================================================
Schedule/Results
Fri Dec-09
(11-1) Oak Hill
(10-2) Wheelersburg
(8-4) South Webster
(7-4) Waverly
(6-6) Minford
(2-10) Valley
(2-10) West
(1-10) Northwest
=========================================================================
Schedule/Results
Fri Dec-09
- Wheelersburg(62) @ (54)Valley
Waverly(69) @ (54)West
Minford(33) @ (47)South Webster
Oak Hill(53) @ (33)Northwest
- South Webster(38) @ (35)Wheelersburg
West(61) @ (71)Valley
Northwest(41) @ (61)Minford
Oak Hill(56) @ (45)Waverly
- Minford(34) @ (52)Wheelersburg
Northwest(61) @ (63)West
Valley(38) @ (60)Oak Hill
South Webster(47) @ (56)Waverly
- Valley(57) @ (76)South Webster
- Northwest(38) @ (62)Wheelersburg
South Webster(65) @ (36)West
Valley(73) @ (78)Waverly
Oak Hill(55) @ (39)Minford
- Waverly(46) @ (51)Wheelersburg
West(45) @ (57)Oak Hill
Minford(70) @ (65)Valley
South Webster(64) @ (34)Northwest
- Wheelersburg(50) @ (57)Oak Hill
- Wheelersburg(55) @ (41)West
Northwest @ Valley
Waverly(53) @ (58)Minford
Oak Hill(64) @ (42)South Webster
- Valley(35) @ (60)Wheelersburg
West(73) @ (75)Waverly
South Webster(50) @ (40)Minford
Northwest(28) @ (74)Oak Hill
- Wheelersburg(68) @ (55)South Webster
Valley(47) @ (61)West
Minford(55) @ (48)Northwest
Waverly(47) @ (57)Oak Hill
- West(47) @ (56)Minford
- Wheelersburg(68) @ (50)Minford
West(29) @ (41)Northwest
Oak Hill(61) @ (35)Valley
Waverly(59) @ (50)South Webster
- Oak Hill(40) @ (44)Wheelersburg
Minford(55) @ (35)West
South Webster(48) @ (40)Valley
Northwest(46) @ (69)Waverly
- Wheelersburg @ Northwest
West(45) @ (69)South Webster
Waverly(48) @ (29)Valley
Minford(45) @ (56)Oak Hill
- Wheelersburg @ Waverly
Oak Hill @ West
Valley @ Minford
Northwest @ South Webster
- Waverly @ Northwest
- West @ Wheelersburg
Valley @ Northwest
Minford @ Waverly
South Webster @ Oak Hill
"you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Wayne Gretzky"
Michael Scott
Michael Scott
Re: SOC2 (2016-17) Schedule/Results/Standings
Burg @ Northwest score?
"you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Wayne Gretzky"
Michael Scott
Michael Scott
-
- SEOPS HO
- Posts: 9605
- Joined: Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:34 am
- Location: On The Ridge
Re: SOC2 (2016-17) Schedule/Results/Standings
Burg won 54-35
"Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends"
Re: SOC2 (2016-17) Schedule/Results/Standings
Just to post some facts for some of you guys that say officiating doesn't matter. Here are some stats on the Oak Hill vs Burg game. Oak Hill was 16 for 40 on field goals for 40% to Burgs 13 for 36 on field goals for 36%. Oaks 5 of 14 for threes for 36% vs Burg 3 for 13 for 23%. So score based on field goals alone was Oaks 37- Burgs 29. The difference was the Oaks were 3-3 on free throws and Burg was 15 of 24. So basically the Oaks were statistically better in every offensive shooting category.
24 free throw attempts vs 3. Any more questions as to whether or not referees impact the outcome of games? Or any questions as to how lop sided the fouls were in that game? 12 of those fouls were called on 3 Oak Hill starters just on Tanner Holden.
24 free throw attempts vs 3. Any more questions as to whether or not referees impact the outcome of games? Or any questions as to how lop sided the fouls were in that game? 12 of those fouls were called on 3 Oak Hill starters just on Tanner Holden.
-
- Varsity
- Posts: 491
- Joined: Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:06 am
Re: SOC2 (2016-17) Schedule/Results/Standings
South Point had the same problem when they played at burg....Burg had way more free throws...Don't tell me refs don't matter...And the refs always give the so called stars the benefit of the doubt....Tanner Holden dunked one on SP...He couldn't just get back on defense.. He had to turn around and stare and pose the SP player down for 5 seconds without the refs teeing him up...It's sickening how these refs kiss certain Coaches and players butts because of their name or status....By the way the Holden kid didn't impress me at all...He scored 6 points....Coleman kid is their best player....If I were 6'5 and couldn't get more than 6 point on a team I sure wouldn't be showboating......
-
- SEOP
- Posts: 4597
- Joined: Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:50 pm
Re: SOC2 (2016-17) Schedule/Results/Standings
Oaktown wrote:Just to post some facts for some of you guys that say officiating doesn't matter. Here are some stats on the Oak Hill vs Burg game. Oak Hill was 16 for 40 on field goals for 40% to Burgs 13 for 36 on field goals for 36%. Oaks 5 of 14 for threes for 36% vs Burg 3 for 13 for 23%. So score based on field goals alone was Oaks 37- Burgs 29. The difference was the Oaks were 3-3 on free throws and Burg was 15 of 24. So basically the Oaks were statistically better in every offensive shooting category.
24 free throw attempts vs 3. Any more questions as to whether or not referees impact the outcome of games? Or any questions as to how lop sided the fouls were in that game? 12 of those fouls were called on 3 Oak Hill starters just on Tanner Holden.
Like I said on another post about this game-Were you even there???? Oak Hill shot jump shot after jump shot all night and hardly took the ball to the hole. Burg, Holden in paticular was driving the ball to the basket most of the game, getting the fouls and getting to the line. You said it yourself when you said OH shot 14 threes. How many of there other 26 shots were in the paint? If memory serves me correctly I don't remember to many layups by OH.
Mr Wonderful, you are correct. Coleman is the best player on the Burg and it has shown the last 5-6 games as he is averaging around 25 a game during that span. The reason he only scored 5 against OH is that the Burg did not get him the ball down low. OH had NO ONE that could guard him just like SP didn't and he dropped 28 on them. Holden is a 16 year old kid. You going to tell me a South Point player has never stared down a player from the other team after making a play on them ?????? Please!!!! Sell that crap to someone else!!!!
-
- Varsity
- Posts: 491
- Joined: Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:06 am
Re: SOC2 (2016-17) Schedule/Results/Standings
yabbadabodoo or whatever your name is fred.....You darn right SP has stared down a kid and posed but they got teed up for it....So if a kid is 16 he gets a free pass from this!!!!! Go sell that crap to a liberal because that's the way they think!!! Make these kids accountable! Trouble with you and a lot of other people you watch this crap on TV and think it's cute. .Burg calls it swagger.. I call it arrogant punk cockiness ! Just maybe the reason coleman scored 5 is that persins defense shut him down and I guarantee if SP plays Burg again he wont get 28 pts
Re: SOC2 (2016-17) Schedule/Results/Standings
lolmrwonderful wrote:yabbadabodoo or whatever your name is fred.....You darn right SP has stared down a kid and posed but they got teed up for it....So if a kid is 16 he gets a free pass from this!!!!! Go sell that crap to a liberal because that's the way they think!!! Make these kids accountable! Trouble with you and a lot of other people you watch this crap on TV and think it's cute. .Burg calls it swagger.. I call it arrogant punk cockiness ! Just maybe the reason coleman scored 5 is that persins defense shut him down and I guarantee if SP plays Burg again he wont get 28 pts
Re: SOC2 (2016-17) Schedule/Results/Standings
Waverly hit one three ball and that was in the first period. Tigers shot 11-16 from the line while Wheelersburg's Kaden Coleman hit 16-19 himself, a perfect 9-9 in the 2nd half and 6-6 in the 4th. Coleman lead all scorers with 26 points, 10 in the 4th. Tigers make just a couple more of those threes or a couple of the 5 FT's they missed and it's a different game.
Re: SOC2 (2016-17) Schedule/Results/Standings
Anyone have the Northwest @ Valley score on 1/17/17 ?
Northwest @ South Webster on 2/10/17
Northwest @ South Webster on 2/10/17
"you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Wayne Gretzky"
Michael Scott
Michael Scott
Re: SOC2 (2016-17) Schedule/Results/Standings
Standings (Updated Feb-11 09:32 PM)
=========================================================================
Schedule/Results
Fri Dec-09
(12-1) Oak Hill
(11-2) Wheelersburg
(9-4) South Webster
(7-5) Waverly
(7-6) Minford
(2-11) Valley
(2-11) West
(1-11) Northwest
=========================================================================
Schedule/Results
Fri Dec-09
- Wheelersburg(62) @ (54)Valley
Waverly(69) @ (54)West
Minford(33) @ (47)South Webster
Oak Hill(53) @ (33)Northwest
- South Webster(38) @ (35)Wheelersburg
West(61) @ (71)Valley
Northwest(41) @ (61)Minford
Oak Hill(56) @ (45)Waverly
- Minford(34) @ (52)Wheelersburg
Northwest(61) @ (63)West
Valley(38) @ (60)Oak Hill
South Webster(47) @ (56)Waverly
- Valley(57) @ (76)South Webster
- Northwest(38) @ (62)Wheelersburg
South Webster(65) @ (36)West
Valley(73) @ (78)Waverly
Oak Hill(55) @ (39)Minford
- Waverly(46) @ (51)Wheelersburg
West(45) @ (57)Oak Hill
Minford(70) @ (65)Valley
South Webster(64) @ (34)Northwest
- Wheelersburg(50) @ (57)Oak Hill
- Wheelersburg(55) @ (41)West
Northwest @ Valley
Waverly(53) @ (58)Minford
Oak Hill(64) @ (42)South Webster
- Valley(35) @ (60)Wheelersburg
West(73) @ (75)Waverly
South Webster(50) @ (40)Minford
Northwest(28) @ (74)Oak Hill
- Wheelersburg(68) @ (55)South Webster
Valley(47) @ (61)West
Minford(55) @ (48)Northwest
Waverly(47) @ (57)Oak Hill
- West(47) @ (56)Minford
- Wheelersburg(68) @ (50)Minford
West(29) @ (41)Northwest
Oak Hill(61) @ (35)Valley
Waverly(59) @ (50)South Webster
- Oak Hill(40) @ (44)Wheelersburg
Minford(55) @ (35)West
South Webster(48) @ (40)Valley
Northwest(46) @ (69)Waverly
- Wheelersburg(54) @ (35)Northwest
West(45) @ (69)South Webster
Waverly(48) @ (29)Valley
Minford(45) @ (56)Oak Hill
- Wheelersburg(47) @ (42)Waverly
Oak Hill(53) @ (48)West
Valley(41) @ (51)Minford
Northwest @ South Webster
- Waverly @ Northwest
- West @ Wheelersburg
Valley @ Northwest
Minford @ Waverly
South Webster @ Oak Hill
"you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Wayne Gretzky"
Michael Scott
Michael Scott
Re: SOC2 (2016-17) Schedule/Results/Standings
Standings (Updated Feb-11 09:40 PM)
=========================================================================
Schedule/Results
Fri Dec-09
(12-1) Oak Hill
(11-2) Wheelersburg
(9-4) South Webster
(7-5) Waverly
(7-6) Minford
(2-11) Valley
(2-11) West
(1-11) Northwest
=========================================================================
Schedule/Results
Fri Dec-09
- Wheelersburg(62) @ (54)Valley
Waverly(69) @ (54)West
Minford(33) @ (47)South Webster
Oak Hill(53) @ (33)Northwest
- South Webster(38) @ (35)Wheelersburg
West(61) @ (71)Valley
Northwest(41) @ (61)Minford
Oak Hill(56) @ (45)Waverly
- Minford(34) @ (52)Wheelersburg
Northwest(61) @ (63)West
Valley(38) @ (60)Oak Hill
South Webster(47) @ (56)Waverly
- Valley(57) @ (76)South Webster
- Northwest(38) @ (62)Wheelersburg
South Webster(65) @ (36)West
Valley(73) @ (78)Waverly
Oak Hill(55) @ (39)Minford
- Waverly(46) @ (51)Wheelersburg
West(45) @ (57)Oak Hill
Minford(70) @ (65)Valley
South Webster(64) @ (34)Northwest
- Wheelersburg(50) @ (57)Oak Hill
- Wheelersburg(55) @ (41)West
Northwest @ Valley
Waverly(53) @ (58)Minford
Oak Hill(64) @ (42)South Webster
- Valley(35) @ (60)Wheelersburg
West(73) @ (75)Waverly
South Webster(50) @ (40)Minford
Northwest(28) @ (74)Oak Hill
- Wheelersburg(68) @ (55)South Webster
Valley(47) @ (61)West
Minford(55) @ (48)Northwest
Waverly(47) @ (57)Oak Hill
- West(47) @ (56)Minford
- Wheelersburg(68) @ (50)Minford
West(29) @ (41)Northwest
Oak Hill(61) @ (35)Valley
Waverly(59) @ (50)South Webster
- Oak Hill(40) @ (44)Wheelersburg
Minford(55) @ (35)West
South Webster(48) @ (40)Valley
Northwest(46) @ (69)Waverly
- Wheelersburg(54) @ (35)Northwest
West(45) @ (69)South Webster
Waverly(48) @ (29)Valley
Minford(45) @ (56)Oak Hill
- Wheelersburg(47) @ (42)Waverly
Oak Hill(53) @ (48)West
Valley(41) @ (51)Minford
Northwest(37) @ (69)South Webster
- Waverly @ Northwest
- West @ Wheelersburg
Valley @ Northwest
Minford @ Waverly
South Webster @ Oak Hill
"you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Wayne Gretzky"
Michael Scott
Michael Scott
Re: SOC2 (2016-17) Schedule/Results/Standings
Waverly has to win out and Oak Hill beat South Webster for the Tigers to share 3rd place with the Jeeps. Not what the Tigers were hoping for after a 9-1 start but it's been a good year.