Coaching Vacancies

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Re: Coaching Vacancies

Post by Tomkitty » Fri May 19, 2017 10:02 am

School Boards have almost no involvement in who is hired. It is presented to the board that a position is open and who is recommended for the position by the administrators. The board does not even know who the other candidates are. The only reason the Board votes is to ensure that the criteria for hiring has been met and try to ensure the candidate has been vetted properly. Typically, the Super, AD and Building Administrator conduct the interviews and choose the candidate. Now, you are getting to the heart of the issue. The Super and Building Administrator are typically not sports...they are academics and administrators. That is what they are hired to do. Educate and administrate. While the AD can be knowledgeable in 1 or 2, it is difficult to be knowledgeable in all sports.



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Re: Coaching Vacancies

Post by Eaglemaniac » Fri May 19, 2017 10:18 am

Dogg, you make it sound like you know something...sure wish you'd share with the rest of us. I am not any person of importance, but I feel like I am "in the know" so to speak.

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Re: Coaching Vacancies

Post by Jayski » Fri May 19, 2017 10:24 am

Who would Eastern get to replace Hill? Not saying he is not replaceable...everyone can be replaced...but does anyone have a replacement in mind? Has anyone spoke to Hill about their displeasure? Perhaps he would resign if he was aware of any "reasonable" actions that warranted such actions.

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Re: Coaching Vacancies

Post by N2Hoops » Fri May 19, 2017 10:27 am

Who ended up landing the Federal Hocking position?

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Re: Coaching Vacancies

Post by Tomkitty » Fri May 19, 2017 11:59 am

Eaglemaniac wrote:
Fri May 19, 2017 10:18 am
Dogg, you make it sound like you know something...sure wish you'd share with the rest of us. I am not any person of importance, but I feel like I am "in the know" so to speak.
Absolutely not. Did not mean to imply that. I was just trying to clear up some confusion about Boards role in hiring coaches - and specifically the comments about Bowen not being football coach at Eastern. It has been several years ago, and I don't know either person so I have no idea why one person was picked over the other. I just know that the Board didn't decide. They would have only be given the recommended candidate's name.

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Re: Coaching Vacancies

Post by ball57 » Fri May 19, 2017 12:23 pm

Jayski wrote:
Fri May 19, 2017 10:24 am
Who would Eastern get to replace Hill? Not saying he is not replaceable...everyone can be replaced...but does anyone have a replacement in mind? Has anyone spoke to Hill about their displeasure? Perhaps he would resign if he was aware of any "reasonable" actions that warranted such actions.
My last comment on this whole thread because this is getting beat to death. Jayski, if every coach resigned when a parent voiced their displeasure there wouldn't be any coaches anywhere!! As was stated earlier one family in particular have given him a hard time since day one. If my memory serves me correct some of these same people gave Jay Reynolds a hard time when he had them in jr. High. Jay now coaches with the girls program. We hope that Coach Hill and his staff stay!!!! End of rant!

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Re: Coaching Vacancies

Post by route7 » Fri May 19, 2017 12:36 pm

ball57 wrote:
Fri May 19, 2017 12:23 pm
Jayski wrote:
Fri May 19, 2017 10:24 am
Who would Eastern get to replace Hill? Not saying he is not replaceable...everyone can be replaced...but does anyone have a replacement in mind? Has anyone spoke to Hill about their displeasure? Perhaps he would resign if he was aware of any "reasonable" actions that warranted such actions.
My last comment on this whole thread because this is getting beat to death. Jayski, if every coach resigned when a parent voiced their displeasure there wouldn't be any coaches anywhere!! As was stated earlier one family in particular have given him a hard time since day one. If my memory serves me correct some of these same people gave Jay Reynolds a hard time when he had them in jr. High. Jay now coaches with the girls program. We hope that Coach Hill and his staff stay!!!! End of rant!
Everyone loved jay Reynolds when he had the boys. Coach hill is the only one complained about!

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Re: Coaching Vacancies

Post by ball57 » Fri May 19, 2017 12:57 pm

route7 wrote:
Fri May 19, 2017 12:36 pm
ball57 wrote:
Fri May 19, 2017 12:23 pm
Jayski wrote:
Fri May 19, 2017 10:24 am
Who would Eastern get to replace Hill? Not saying he is not replaceable...everyone can be replaced...but does anyone have a replacement in mind? Has anyone spoke to Hill about their displeasure? Perhaps he would resign if he was aware of any "reasonable" actions that warranted such actions.
My last comment on this whole thread because this is getting beat to death. Jayski, if every coach resigned when a parent voiced their displeasure there wouldn't be any coaches anywhere!! As was stated earlier one family in particular have given him a hard time since day one. If my memory serves me correct some of these same people gave Jay Reynolds a hard time when he had them in jr. High. Jay now coaches with the girls program. We hope that Coach Hill and his staff stay!!!! End of rant!
Everyone loved jay Reynolds when he had the boys. Coach hill is the only one complained about!
I didn't have a problem with Ciach Reynolds but not everyone loved him!! Goes to show you, you're not going to find someone who everyone loves!!!

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Re: Coaching Vacancies

Post by mondayamqb » Fri May 19, 2017 1:19 pm

Tomkitty wrote:
Fri May 19, 2017 11:59 am
Eaglemaniac wrote:
Fri May 19, 2017 10:18 am
Dogg, you make it sound like you know something...sure wish you'd share with the rest of us. I am not any person of importance, but I feel like I am "in the know" so to speak.
Absolutely not. Did not mean to imply that. I was just trying to clear up some confusion about Boards role in hiring coaches - and specifically the comments about Bowen not being football coach at Eastern. It has been several years ago, and I don't know either person so I have no idea why one person was picked over the other. I just know that the Board didn't decide. They would have only be given the recommended candidate's name.
Agree with what BOE's are supposed to do. However, some are much more involved and controlling than they are supposed to be with regard to hirings. BOE's officially hire 2 positions: Superintendent and Treasurer. If all would only stick to that......

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Re: Coaching Vacancies

Post by Eaglemaniac » Fri May 19, 2017 2:21 pm

Hill only one complained about? Coach Williams has had someone wanting here gone for the past four years. Coach Durst has had someone wanting him gone for the past four years. Coach Newland has had someone want him gone for the past three years. Coach Bowen has had someone want him gone for the past several years. Common denominator here??? These coaches all get the same treatment whether winning or losing. You cannot please everyone. If you do disagree and say that Hill is the only one, then I will simply say you probably only watch basketball and do not support the other sports. Because at Eastern....IT IS EVERY SPORT!!!

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Re: Coaching Vacancies

Post by ball57 » Fri May 19, 2017 4:00 pm

Eaglemaniac wrote:
Fri May 19, 2017 2:21 pm
Hill only one complained about? Coach Williams has had someone wanting here gone for the past four years. Coach Durst has had someone wanting him gone for the past four years. Coach Newland has had someone want him gone for the past three years. Coach Bowen has had someone want him gone for the past several years. Common denominator here??? These coaches all get the same treatment whether winning or losing. You cannot please everyone. If you do disagree and say that Hill is the only one, then I will simply say you probably only watch basketball and do not support the other sports. Because at Eastern....IT IS EVERY SPORT!!!
Amen!!!

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Re: Coaching Vacancies

Post by ball57 » Fri May 19, 2017 4:14 pm

ball57 wrote:
Fri May 19, 2017 4:00 pm
Eaglemaniac wrote:
Fri May 19, 2017 2:21 pm
Hill only one complained about? Coach Williams has had someone wanting here gone for the past four years. Coach Durst has had someone wanting him gone for the past four years. Coach Newland has had someone want him gone for the past three years. Coach Bowen has had someone want him gone for the past several years. Common denominator here??? These coaches all get the same treatment whether winning or losing. You cannot please everyone. If you do disagree and say that Hill is the only one, then I will simply say you probably only watch basketball and do not support the other sports. Because at Eastern....IT IS EVERY SPORT!!!
Amen!!! You are so right!!

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Re: Coaching Vacancies

Post by route7 » Fri May 19, 2017 4:23 pm

I watch all three sports. Way more complaints about hill than either of the other two. Kids don't want to play for him. But they will for the other guys

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Re: Coaching Vacancies

Post by E High » Sat May 20, 2017 3:55 pm

Tomkitty : There are athletic committees at many schools that are used. It consists of the AD, Principal, Super , and 2 board members . The board members are their bosses and in many cases they dominate the process . Some board members believe they know more about coaching and other school issues . Thus , the hiring process at some/many schools are not like they used to be . Good luck to all this coming year !

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Re: Coaching Vacancies

Post by Eaglemaniac » Sun May 21, 2017 9:28 pm

Hill may get more complaints than others...I don't keep score. I just know that I have heard the same kind of complaints about all of them. Question Route7 saying they play for the others though...out of 15-20 basketball players, I think only about 4 or 5 play for Bowen. Maybe I'm wrong...

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Re: Coaching Vacancies

Post by ball57 » Mon May 22, 2017 9:38 pm

Well.....after reading all this. I think anyone would be crazy to want and coach at Eastern! If you are one of the coaches already at Eastern.....GOOD LUCK!!!!!

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Re: Coaching Vacancies

Post by Super trooper » Tue May 23, 2017 8:12 am

Eastern has the worst fans in southeastern ohio. Period

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Re: Coaching Vacancies

Post by waverlytiger » Tue May 23, 2017 9:34 am

Super trooper wrote:
Tue May 23, 2017 8:12 am
Eastern has the worst fans in southeastern ohio. Period
Just in basketball... football and baseball fans are very supportive and those programs are going up. Meanwhile basketball lacks support in large part because of the coach

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Re: Coaching Vacancies

Post by Super trooper » Tue May 23, 2017 1:42 pm

That's not it. They didn't like Howie when he was there.

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Re: Coaching Vacancies

Post by TVC » Tue May 23, 2017 3:18 pm

Super trooper wrote:
Tue May 23, 2017 1:42 pm
That's not it. They didn't like Howie when he was there.
Agree, they really didn't like Howie and when his recruits and relation were graduated he left a successful program with around $30 bucks in the basketball fund and that only justified their not liking him.

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Re: Coaching Vacancies

Post by sgrebel » Wed May 24, 2017 5:45 pm

Homie back to Eastern as AD????!!!!!??? What I'm hearing

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Re: Coaching Vacancies

Post by Carl Spackler » Wed May 24, 2017 8:27 pm

Who is Homie?

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Re: Coaching Vacancies

Post by Carl Spackler » Sun May 28, 2017 9:42 am

Good luck to South Gallia on their hire hehe

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