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Columbus Wellington 70 Clay 56 (2017 Elite 8)

Post by LucasDavenport » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:14 am

Just thought I would start this:

And in all Due Respect and a wink and a Nod to our Clay Posters I Predict:

Wellington 72 Clay 50.

Good luck Panthers!!



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Re: Division 4 Regional Final: Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

Post by N2Hoops » Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:16 am

Grove City Christian is better than Wellington. I will take Clay by 3.

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Re: Division 4 Regional Final: Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

Post by Super trooper » Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:53 am

I think clay should be the favorite honestly. Wellington doesn't shoot the ball very well

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Re: Division 4 Regional Final: Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

Post by Prime Time » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:14 am

Lucas you like those numbers don't you lol. Hope for same Clay results. Good Luck Clay

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Re: Division 4 Regional Final: Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

Post by dragonalum » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:15 am

Looking at how the two teams have played in the tournament, I'm going to take the Panthers in this one.

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Re: Division 4 Regional Final: Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

Post by Fanatic » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:21 am

You don't have to shoot all that well if you can get twice as many rebounds as your opponent. Half of them offensive. Wellington out rebounded Waterford 44 to 25 with 21 of those being offensive rebounds . Wellington weak spot last night looked like foul shooting, 16-25, and attacking Waterford's zone defense.

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Re: Division 4 Regional Final: Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

Post by bbjunky81 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:33 am

Wellington has the size advantage by a lot, Clay has more shooters! This game will be determined by Clay's ability to shoot the outside shot on the offensive end, and their ability to rebound on the defensive end! I think Clay can do it!

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Re: Division 4 Regional Final: Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

Post by 93Bulldog » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:58 am

Teams always struggle shooting the first time they visit the convo. Be weary that we may have seen Wellington at its worse. I could be wrong and I hope I am. But the fact is, they are a private school in columbus which brings in players who are 6'9, 6'7, 6'4, 6'4. Its an uphill climb for any of our small public schools when they face such a team.

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Re: Division 4 Regional Final: Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

Post by N2Hoops » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:22 am

Fanatic wrote:You don't have to shoot all that well if you can get twice as many rebounds as your opponent. Half of them offensive. Wellington out rebounded Waterford 44 to 25 with 21 of those being offensive rebounds . Wellington weak spot last night looked like foul shooting, 16-25, and attacking Waterford's zone defense.
I think Clay will rebound much better with Wellington than Waterford did. Clay is much more disciplined and physical than Waterford is.

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Re: Division 4 Regional Final: Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

Post by 93Bulldog » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:34 am

Uh, more disciplined & physical? I'd say Clay is better than Waterford in a few areas - but those two are not it.

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Re: Division 4 Regional Final: Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

Post by N2Hoops » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:43 am

93Bulldog wrote:Uh, more disciplined & physical? I'd say Clay is better than Waterford in a few areas - but those two are not it.
I would politely disagree, the only thing Waterford runs is one double baseline screen set and dribble drive with a lot of standing. Fortunately for the Wildcats they can all shoot the 3 well, so it works.

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Re: Division 4 Regional Final: Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

Post by Madness » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:58 am

Adrenaline, emotions and the want to. That is something Clay has going for them. Private schools expect this, public schools want this. Play with heart and leave it on the floor. The want is more powerful than the expect. Play your game and keep the streak going. Good luck Friday night Clay Panthers. Win your ticket to the final four.

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Re: Division 4 Regional Final: Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

Post by 93Bulldog » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:13 am

N2Hoops wrote:
93Bulldog wrote:Uh, more disciplined & physical? I'd say Clay is better than Waterford in a few areas - but those two are not it.
I would politely disagree, the only thing Waterford runs is one double baseline screen set and dribble drive with a lot of standing. Fortunately for the Wildcats they can all shoot the 3 well, so it works.
They are also very desciplined in their fundamentals & protecting the basketball & teamwork. Clay had a ton of turnovers last night & did a lot of one-on-one basketball. The second game was nothing but a fantastic street ball game between two teams who wanted to run. It was extremely chaotic. #15 for clay is a terrific hoops player, but that one-on-one drive to the basket will not be there friday with a 6'9 & 6'7 lurking in the paint. Clay will have to pass well & shoot well to win. Ive seen these types of games 100 times, its the only way to beat a Wellington or Africentric or harvest prep.

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Re: Division 4 Regional Final: Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

Post by biggdowgg » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:35 am

Unless Wellington had a really bad night like 93bulldog says could have been the case,other then their size,I was not impressed, very poor shooting even missed lay ups ,and ball handling was not good at all ,the one guard traveled a LOT they called only 4 or 5 of them,but clay will have to shoot well because there won't be many second chance baskets.

Good luck to clay,this is a very winnable game for them.

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Re: Division 4 Regional Final: Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

Post by N2Hoops » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:38 am

93Bulldog wrote:
N2Hoops wrote:
93Bulldog wrote:Uh, more disciplined & physical? I'd say Clay is better than Waterford in a few areas - but those two are not it.
I would politely disagree, the only thing Waterford runs is one double baseline screen set and dribble drive with a lot of standing. Fortunately for the Wildcats they can all shoot the 3 well, so it works.
They are also very desciplined in their fundamentals & protecting the basketball & teamwork. Clay had a ton of turnovers last night & did a lot of one-on-one basketball. The second game was nothing but a fantastic street ball game between two teams who wanted to run. It was extremely chaotic. #15 for clay is a terrific hoops player, but that one-on-one drive to the basket will not be there friday with a 6'9 & 6'7 lurking in the paint. Clay will have to pass well & shoot well to win. Ive seen these types of games 100 times, its the only way to beat a Wellington or Africentric or harvest prep.
That is just the nature of the beast when it comes to uptempo basketball. Clay and GCC both like to get up and down.

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Re: Division 4 Regional Final: Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

Post by wobycat » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:53 am

I think clay has proved they belong here. This team is really good and well coached. Watched some of this online. Coach did not get tore up when things didn't go his way. Kept composure, called good timeouts. Made great adjustments.

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Re: Division 4 Regional Final: Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

Post by formerfcfan » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:44 pm

N2Hoops wrote:Grove City Christian is better than Wellington. I will take Clay by 3.
Wellington beat GCC by 8 earlier this year, for what it's worth.
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Re: Division 4 Regional Final: Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

Post by danicalifornia » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:29 pm

Good luck to the Panthers!

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Re: Division 4 Regional Final: Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

Post by Downtown23 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:17 pm

N2Hoops wrote:
93Bulldog wrote:Uh, more disciplined & physical? I'd say Clay is better than Waterford in a few areas - but those two are not it.
I would politely disagree, the only thing Waterford runs is one double baseline screen set and dribble drive with a lot of standing. Fortunately for the Wildcats they can all shoot the 3 well, so it works.
I won't speak on the coaching. But for the disciplined, physical, athletic Waterford Boys you are way off. Yes, only graduate 40 a yr. But those Boys you see in all sports there are the most respectable, kind, hard working athletes who excel on the court, field and in the class rm!!! So if you don't know them, which you should because they excel in every sport they play, then keep your undeserving comments to yourself. Those boys fought a hard battle and ended up short at the end against a tall private school. Period.

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Re: Division 4 Regional Final: Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

Post by JEEPNATION » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:03 pm

If Clay can keep these guys off the glass they can win!!!

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Re: Division 4 Regional Final: Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

Post by Fanatic » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:54 pm

Clay will have their Hands full. Can they win this game, yes, could they get beat by 20, yes they can. Wellington will extend the defense farther than GCC did, they are quicker, much taller, and more athletic than GCC. Clay will have to treasure their possessions more than they did last night. If the guards get by the defender, their are a couple bigs to keep them from getting to the rim. The outside shooting of clay will be the difference, if they hit well, they can win. If they're not, could be a long night.

Wellington needs to handle the ball better, they seemed to struggle with pressure on the ball. Foul shooting weak, about 65%. They need to keep the bigs on the floor. It would be nice to see them in the paint instead of on the 3 point arc. Not sure if clay plays a zone or not, but Wellington seemed surprised and unsure haw to attack it against Waterford.

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Re: Division 4 Regional Final: Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

Post by Ironman92 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:52 pm

Have any SE District teams beat Wellington over the years? Did South Webster or Manchester or Eastern Meigs ever knock them off?

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Re: Division 4 Regional Final: Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

Post by trojandave » Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:12 pm

As others have stated, it is imperative that Clay boxes out better than they have all year and minimizes put back baskets by the much taller Wellington. If they can do this, they have a real chance to WIN this game. Obviously Clay will have to do other things well, but keeping Wellington off the glass could be the most important factor.

Ironman92: Wellington was the regional champion last year, but Africentric and Harvest Prep have been the nemesis for SE District D4 teams. In fact, Africentric lost 3 years in a row in the regional final, to Wellington last year, and Harvest Prep before that. Trimble, Peebles, Western Pike, and Waterford have all been beaten by Central District teams in the regional. Overall, the Central District has had a undefeated record vs. the SE District in D2, D3, and D4 the last several years. Maybe this is the year that the Clay Panthers can end that undefeated streak.

Wellington made the state tournament in 2003, and last season, losing in the semifinals both times.

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Re: 3/17 Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

Post by panther2010 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:10 pm

I think clay honestly has a shot if they can hit the 3ball right off the bat and if they utilize the 2-3 zone aginist a much taller team I don't see man -man defense working to well in the post if clay decide to go that route but offensively I think they will be fine but I am gonna go out and say it will be a close game either way it goes.

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Re: Division 4 Regional Final: Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

Post by Ironman92 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:13 pm

trojandave wrote:As others have stated, it is imperative that Clay boxes out better than they have all year and minimizes put back baskets by the much taller Wellington. If they can do this, they have a real chance to WIN this game. Obviously Clay will have to do other things well, but keeping Wellington off the glass could be the most important factor.

Ironman92: Wellington was the regional champion last year, but Africentric and Harvest Prep have been the nemesis for SE District D4 teams. In fact, Africentric lost 3 years in a row in the regional final, to Wellington last year, and Harvest Prep before that. Trimble, Peebles, Western Pike, and Waterford have all been beaten by Central District teams in the regional. Overall, the Central District has had a undefeated record vs. the SE District in D2, D3, and D4 the last several years. Maybe this is the year that the Clay Panthers can end that undefeated streak.

Wellington made the state tournament in 2003, and last season, losing in the semifinals both times.
Thanks. Well aware the Africentric and Harvest Prep are the two main powers of this regional for a long time...Wellington has been there a bit as well. I know the 2003 Whiteoak team lost 50-44 to Wellington in the regional finals. They had the superior athletes but it was tight. That Whiteoak team made the Final 4 in 2002 and graduated 5 of their 7 rotation players. They had an incredible run using 5 new players into the rotation. Drilled the Cozart led Eastern Meigs team by about 20 in regional semis....but Wellington was too much.

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Re: 3/17 Portsmouth Clay vs Columbus Wellington

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Re: 3/17 Portsmouth Clay vs. Columbus Wellington

Post by ManitouDan2 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:27 am

Good luck Panthers and way to represent the Soc .

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Re: 3/17 Portsmouth Clay vs. Columbus Wellington

Post by Mad-Dogg » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:56 am

sounds like this might be another dog fight for clay. let's just hope it's not another 2ot thriller
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Re: 3/17 Portsmouth Clay vs. Columbus Wellington

Post by TheFlyingDutchman » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:53 pm

Good luck Clay from ISJ !!!!

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Re: 3/17 Portsmouth Clay vs. Columbus Wellington

Post by trojandave » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:16 pm

I didn't realize in my above post that Clay just defeated a Central District team in Grove City Christian......so the undefeated streak is over thanks to the Clay Panthers.

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Re: 3/17 Portsmouth Clay vs. Columbus Wellington

Post by biggdowgg » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:15 pm

What time does this one start?

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Re: 3/17 Portsmouth Clay vs. Columbus Wellington

Post by Gold and Blue » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:34 pm

biggdowgg wrote:What time does this one start?
7:00

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Re: 3/17 Portsmouth Clay vs. Columbus Wellington

Post by biggdowgg » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:39 pm

Gold and Blue wrote:
biggdowgg wrote:What time does this one start?
7:00

Thanks

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Re: 3/17 Portsmouth Clay vs. Columbus Wellington (2017 Elite 8)

Post by TVC » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:55 am

Good luck to Clay
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Re: 3/17 Portsmouth Clay vs. Columbus Wellington (2017 Elite 8)

Post by ItsMyOpinion » Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:45 am

Clay is has to be the favorite here regardless of the public/private issue. I really felt Waterford would beat Wellington. I thought there would be an All SE District Regional Final.

If Wellington upsets Clay it will be because of poor perimeter shooting. Perimeter shooting is a strength of Clay's.

Good Luck Panthers!

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