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Chieftain2009 wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:16 am
noreply66 wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:08 am Didn't the other Logan team that won 20 had to do it counting tournament games?
Yes, this is the first time a Logan team has won 20 in the regular season.
But this team got 22 regular season games versus only 20 for the '85-'86 Chiefs.

A pair of excellent teams. The 1985-86 Chiefs were led by Keith Myers (Bo's uncle) along with Kerry York (who tore his ACL midway through the season), DJ Conrad, and Jim Waid. Keith averaged 18.8 points per game, York 16 ppg (in 14 games), and Waid 14.5.

Bo Myers is averaging nearly 22 per game.


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loganlocos wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:06 am
Chieftain2009 wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:16 am
noreply66 wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:08 am Didn't the other Logan team that won 20 had to do it counting tournament games?
Yes, this is the first time a Logan team has won 20 in the regular season.
But this team got 22 regular season games versus only 20 for the '85-'86 Chiefs.

A pair of excellent teams. The 1985-86 Chiefs were led by Keith Myers (Bo's uncle) along with Kerry York (who tore his ACL midway through the season), DJ Conrad, and Jim Waid. Keith averaged 18.8 points per game, York 16 ppg (in 14 games), and Waid 14.5.

Bo Myers is averaging nearly 22 per game.
That team went 19-1 in the regular season right?


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I would take this yrs team all day long over 85-86 team. This yrs team is way more athletic and can hit from "down town" almost at will. 85-86 didn't have a consistent "beyond the arch" shooter.


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1987chieftains wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:15 am I would take this yrs team all day long over 85-86 team. This yrs team is way more athletic and can hit from "down town" almost at will. 85-86 didn't have a consistent "beyond the arch" shooter.
Agree.


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Chieftain2009 wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:11 am

That team went 19-1 in the regular season right?
That's correct. Started 1-1 (lost to Brookhaven) and then won 21 straight before losing to Lancaster in the district final. They beat Brookhaven (without York) late in the regular season and went a perfect 8-0 in the SEOAL.


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1987chieftains wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:15 am I would take this yrs team all day long over 85-86 team. This yrs team is way more athletic and can hit from "down town" almost at will. 85-86 didn't have a consistent "beyond the arch" shooter.
The three point shot wasn't introduced in HS until 1987-'88.


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Could you give who they played in 85-86? I would say there was a lot of SEO teams on that schedule . Just asking because the Chieftains have played a really tough schedule and not to take anything away from that team.


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1985-86 Logan Chieftains

VS Nelsonville-York - WIN - 71-44
AT Brookhaven ------ Loss - 59-61 (OT)
VS Marietta ---------- WIN - 67-51
AT Wilmington ------ WIN - 71-41
VS Zanesville -------- WIN - 74-65
AT Jackson ---------- WIN - 59-53
AT Hillsboro --------- WIN - 78-44
VS Gallipolis --------- WIN - 37-32
VS Dayton Patterson - WIN - 50-45 (Portsmouth Holiday Tourn)
AT Portsmouth ------- WIN - 71-67 (Portsmouth Holiday Tourn Championship)
AT Zanesville --------- WIN - 73-68
VS Athens ------------- WIN - 66-44
VS DeSales ------------ WIN - 62-59
AT Marietta ----------- WIN - 51-45 (York's last game)
VS Jackson ------------ WIN - 80-57
VS St. Charles -------- WIN - 70-61
VS Brookhaven ------- WIN - 56-54 (Brookhaven was 15th in the AAA poll, only their 2nd loss)
AT Gallipolis ---------- WIN - 51-50
AT Nelsonville-York --- WIN - 68-47
VS Warren ------------- WIN - 57-46 (Sectional @ Convo)
VS Marietta ----------- WIN - 52-38 (Sectional Championship game @ Convo)
AT Athens ------------- WIN - 43-29 (Reg Season)
VS East Liverpool ---- WIN - 65-54 (District @ Muskingum)
VS Lancaster --------- Loss - 55-66 (District championship game @ Muskingum)


The 85-86 team played 8 SEOAL opponents, NY twice, Hillsboro, and Portsmouth from SE District.

Also played Dayton Patterson, Wilmington, Brookhaven (x2), Zanesville (x2), St. Charles, and DeSales from outside the SE District.


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pfloyd wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:02 pm ... interesting statements in the LDN ... "Who would have thought this team would get 20 wins?" ... apparently should have asked Coach Kellough, he told me before the season started that THIS SEASON was the season that he felt that this group of Logan players would make noise on the hardwood ... lots of Coach Kellough "defensive fundamentals" in this years Chiefs for sure ... when you look at the Zane Trace team that Coach Kellough has taken over this season - that squad is exactly where the Purple (this group of the Purple) were at this time in their development - solid defensively, still "thinking" on the offensive end of the floor ... Coach K see's the same thing happening in ZT that is NOW here at Logan ... I've seen ZT 3 times this season - Coach Kellough IS right ... all of the pieces are in place at ZT - size, length, great PG play, scorers, a pipeline of talent now in place ... so to answer Coach Rider's question - Coach Kellough of Zane Trace , the coach who set the blueprint for this group of Chiefs , saw this happening ... if you talked to anyone who follows high school hoops in Southern/Southeastern Ohio - WE knew that Logan was going to be good ... watching last night's 3 games one of the key observations is that Logan and Warren have lots of talent from this season's freshmen up into next years returning 6 or their top 7 varsity players for Logan/ 5-6 rotation players for Warren ... both Warren/Logan BOTH have size coming - multiple 6-5+ players "to be" on both sides, shooters with size , ballhandlers ... the year following 2018-19 will be Logan's "rebuilding" year when this BIG senior group to be graduate - Logan will have players with little to no varsity experience (Warren's squad this season) ... high school hoops always fun to follow - the old guard graduates and the new versions of each team fall into place ... the key to success 2-3 years from now lies in the hands of the freshmen/jv coaches today - the fundamentals learned or not learned will tell the story of the years ahead ...

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loganlocos wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:54 am
1987chieftains wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:15 am I would take this yrs team all day long over 85-86 team. This yrs team is way more athletic and can hit from "down town" almost at will. 85-86 didn't have a consistent "beyond the arch" shooter.
The three point shot wasn't introduced in HS until 1987-'88.
:lol: :lol: :lol: my steel trap mind slipped me.


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I agree this team would probably beat that one 8 out of 10 times and maybe 10 out of 10. Landis would be a nightmare for that team to match up with. The overall quickness and shooting of this team is better too.


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Just the way they get the ball to each other hard/quickly, has a collegiate look to it.


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Seeing both teams play... IMO 85-86 would have worn holes in they're kicks just trying to keep up.


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This group has blazing ball handling like I've never seen before. Pretty amazing for High School B-Ball. Have to say it, but I wish a few of them guys would come out for F-ball this fall. Back to topic. ;) :lol:


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SEFan wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:09 am
pfloyd wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:02 pm ... interesting statements in the LDN ... "Who would have thought this team would get 20 wins?" ... apparently should have asked Coach Kellough, he told me before the season started that THIS SEASON was the season that he felt that this group of Logan players would make noise on the hardwood ... lots of Coach Kellough "defensive fundamentals" in this years Chiefs for sure ... when you look at the Zane Trace team that Coach Kellough has taken over this season - that squad is exactly where the Purple (this group of the Purple) were at this time in their development - solid defensively, still "thinking" on the offensive end of the floor ... Coach K see's the same thing happening in ZT that is NOW here at Logan ... I've seen ZT 3 times this season - Coach Kellough IS right ... all of the pieces are in place at ZT - size, length, great PG play, scorers, a pipeline of talent now in place ... so to answer Coach Rider's question - Coach Kellough of Zane Trace , the coach who set the blueprint for this group of Chiefs , saw this happening ... if you talked to anyone who follows high school hoops in Southern/Southeastern Ohio - WE knew that Logan was going to be good ... watching last night's 3 games one of the key observations is that Logan and Warren have lots of talent from this season's freshmen up into next years returning 6 or their top 7 varsity players for Logan/ 5-6 rotation players for Warren ... both Warren/Logan BOTH have size coming - multiple 6-5+ players "to be" on both sides, shooters with size , ballhandlers ... the year following 2018-19 will be Logan's "rebuilding" year when this BIG senior group to be graduate - Logan will have players with little to no varsity experience (Warren's squad this season) ... high school hoops always fun to follow - the old guard graduates and the new versions of each team fall into place ... the key to success 2-3 years from now lies in the hands of the freshmen/jv coaches today - the fundamentals learned or not learned will tell the story of the years ahead ...

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... No doubt that the "current" coaching under Coach Rider and Coach Bell IS important/outstanding in the present ... BUT you don't dismiss the coaching that was done with ANY group by one of the BEST defensive coaches in Ohio - Coach Kellough ... I have spoken with coaches who "coached under" Coach Kellough - everyone of them have said that he is the best defensive coach they have worked for, that coaching under Coach K made them better defensive coaches today ... it's just like teaching - the good coaches "take" from all of the coaches they have worked for and apply that to what they do - good teachers do the exact same thing ... apparently you didn't see THIS groups development defensively during Coach K's tenure at Logan or maybe you didn't really "see" it ... fundamentals - if you don't have them you get beat by those who do in ANY sport ... so I don't buy that these excellent players are coached by one of the best defensive coaches anywhere and the principles taught aren't a basis for last year's and this year's success ... Skill sets are cumulative - not "boom" you have it ... you can see the outstanding "skill sets" that these kids have at BOTH ends of the floor AND they are continuing to evolve every time they step on the floor ... THAT is what makes winners - these kids are winners ...

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Floyd if you keep this up you will eventually get a Hippo at someones Mid -court. Lol . Not likely.


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Truth&fiction wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:32 pm Floyd if you keep this up you will eventually get a Hippo at someones Mid -court. Lol . Not likely.
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Truth&fiction wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:32 pm Floyd if you keep this up you will eventually get a Hippo at someones Mid -court. Lol . Not likely.

,,, Maybe I should send the "dancing Purple Hippo" video to schools that have those "advertising big screens" courtside or on the front of their scoreboards ! hmmmmmmmmm the support by the Purple Hippo IS surely wanted by SOME school in Southern/Southeastern Ohio !!! ;)

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Nay you can not do that . It would take away from the paid advertisements. Just put a poster on the ol' bus and park it out side .Lol Besides people would get offended if it was PURPLE.


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Put up a banner that says the Purple Hippo is in the house.

Logan use to have a Purple Santa running around at Christmas time.


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