Possible POY in TVC

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Possible POY in TVC

Post by Truth&fiction » Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:38 pm

In to Jan so can we throw out some names for POY ? It might be too early with some Injuries but there has to be some insight.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by VisionQuest » Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:49 pm

I don't think anyone is really sticking out right now. Especially with the Injuries to some of the pre-season favorites. And others just have not lived up to expectations. TVC-OHIO just way down this year, the teams haven't done anything against non-conference opponents so far this year.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by VisionQuest » Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:51 pm

In the TVC-HOCKING I would say the clear cut favorite so far is Randy Hixson from Trimble. His numbers are insane and that team Revolves around him. If he isn't on the floor I just don't see Trimble having a chance in most of their games.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by AliceLoyd2013 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:56 pm

Yates from VC
Mattox from Meigs
****if either stay healthy

Speakman from VC



I agree, not many sticking out up to this point.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by TVC » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:10 pm

Hixson in Hocking
Wide open in Ohio. Yates, Mattox, Baer and Butcher all have a shot however it could be none of these.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Amock0905 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:45 pm

my Pick right now would be speakman from VC


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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by tvc_fan » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:56 pm

AliceLoyd2013 wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:56 pm
Yates from VC
Mattox from Meigs
****if either stay healthy

Speakman from VC



I agree, not many sticking out up to this point.
Be nice if someone can come up with the stats for these players.

I will post Mattox after tonight's game. In the 4 complete games he has played he has averaged 23ppg..he has played half game versus VC and half game versus RV and only had 6 points in those quarters....so averaging 18ppg all together....and all with a blown ACL.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by VisionQuest » Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:15 pm

What exactly is looked at when you consider POY? Do you look at the total body of work of a player? I mean are you looking at Rebounds, assists, blocks, steals and the overall Total package? Or is it more of the "IT" Factor and Points per Game? There are some players who aren't "FLASHY" that are going out every night and just working hard and putting their teams in the best position to win, they just don't get the Praise and mentions of these other players who are a little more "flashy"



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Raider6309 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:15 pm

Speakman from VC



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Ironman92 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:20 pm

Naylan Yates for me. Speakman is critical with what he does for the VC team...but Yates is the go to guy MVP on that team and from what I’ve seen the league.

Speakman is an awesome player.



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Post by 93Bulldog » Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:20 am

VC will eventually run away with the league ...
Yates will win POY
Combs COY

Same story, different year



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by VisionQuest » Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:40 am

tvc_fan wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:56 pm
AliceLoyd2013 wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:56 pm
Yates from VC
Mattox from Meigs
****if either stay healthy

Speakman from VC



I agree, not many sticking out up to this point.
Be nice if someone can come up with the stats for these players.

I will post Mattox after tonight's game. In the 4 complete games he has played he has averaged 23ppg..he has played half game versus VC and half game versus RV and only had 6 points in those quarters....so averaging 18ppg all together....and all with a blown ACL.
What were his Stats tonight Vs Alex?



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by tvc_fan » Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:03 am

VisionQuest wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:40 am
tvc_fan wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:56 pm
AliceLoyd2013 wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:56 pm
Yates from VC
Mattox from Meigs
****if either stay healthy

Speakman from VC



I agree, not many sticking out up to this point.
Be nice if someone can come up with the stats for these players.

I will post Mattox after tonight's game. In the 4 complete games he has played he has averaged 23ppg..he has played half game versus VC and half game versus RV and only had 6 points in those quarters....so averaging 18ppg all together....and all with a blown ACL.
What were his Stats tonight Vs Alex?
He had 12 tonight



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by VisionQuest » Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:17 am

tvc_fan wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:03 am
VisionQuest wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:40 am
tvc_fan wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:56 pm


Be nice if someone can come up with the stats for these players.

I will post Mattox after tonight's game. In the 4 complete games he has played he has averaged 23ppg..he has played half game versus VC and half game versus RV and only had 6 points in those quarters....so averaging 18ppg all together....and all with a blown ACL.
What were his Stats tonight Vs Alex?
He had 12 tonight
And won by 11 so there you go. Must have been a good team effort then tonight.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Truth&fiction » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:11 am

VisionQuest wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:15 pm
What exactly is looked at when you consider POY? Do you look at the total body of work of a player? I mean are you looking at Rebounds, assists, blocks, steals and the overall Total package? Or is it more of the "IT" Factor and Points per Game? There are some players who aren't "FLASHY" that are going out every night and just working hard and putting their teams in the best position to win, they just don't get the Praise and mentions of these other players who are a little more "flashy"
Good question. Unfortunately people look at points only . Some of the players that lead their team in PPG are good shooters but add less than others . A POY should be someone that not only scores but makes his team mates better. Plays stellar defense , sticks his nose in there and takes a charge . Sets up his team with assist and does not get upset when someone else has more points or better stats . My vote goes to the overall player that knows there is no "I" in TEAM . IMO



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by fortdawg » Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:36 am

The Miller Falcons Compston and Starlin have to enter the conservation with their win last night.
They each will be stat stuffers and have the "It" factor mentioned above.
You will find that the POY often comes from the league champ.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by fortdawg » Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:45 am

There is no hard and fast rule on voting except that you have to vote for one kid.
A coach split his vote one year and prompted that rule. hahahaahah
It usually is a no brainer but there are exceptions:
At one time they had the coach list the kids on their ballot from top to bottom with the top kid getting more points than the ones lower than them.
A Girl from Federal who had a full ride Athletic Scholarship to Miami of Ohio where she played----was dead last on one coach's ballot.
So...personalities and spite does come into play at times.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Snowman2011 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:17 pm

fortdawg wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:36 am
The Miller Falcons Compston and Starlin have to enter the conservation with their win last night.
They each will be stat stuffers and have the "It" factor mentioned above.
You will find that the POY often comes from the league champ.
I was thinking the same thing. But Eveland is the best defender in the league. Hustles and guaranteed his 10+ points a game. Bartley kid is a stud also. Hixson is a stud. It’ll be a toss up. They held Hixson to 16 when he averages 30 something I beleive. Will see in the near future who wins. All great players.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by bburner » Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:49 am

Truth&fiction wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:11 am
VisionQuest wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:15 pm
What exactly is looked at when you consider POY? Do you look at the total body of work of a player? I mean are you looking at Rebounds, assists, blocks, steals and the overall Total package? Or is it more of the "IT" Factor and Points per Game? There are some players who aren't "FLASHY" that are going out every night and just working hard and putting their teams in the best position to win, they just don't get the Praise and mentions of these other players who are a little more "flashy"
Good question. Unfortunately people look at points only . Some of the players that lead their team in PPG are good shooters but add less than others . A POY should be someone that not only scores but makes his team mates better. Plays stellar defense , sticks his nose in there and takes a charge . Sets up his team with assist and does not get upset when someone else has more points or better stats . My vote goes to the overall player that knows there is no "I" in TEAM . IMO
Great point - In my view SE OH basketball is a soft brand of basketball. Not enough kids wanting to rebound. Teams that rebound & play D win. Players who block out, dive for loose balls & hustle stand out to me.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Ironman92 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:16 pm

My view of the top 2 players is skewed a bit by their coaches IMO.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by spartans_fan » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:29 pm

To me Griffin Lutz should get player of the year. It is evident he was the biggest reason Athens was so good the past two years. He is missed a great deal... (a little tongue in cheek)

Best players are Yates and Speakman. Then maybe Hines, but I am not sure Hines will get the most votes from his team, but he should be the best player for Athens.

Go TVC!



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by bburner » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:45 pm

I need to see at least scoring rebounding & assist stats. I've seen Speakman vs NY but no Yates. I thought Bohyer for NY was best player that night with 23 rebounds and 33 pts despite Speakman's 42.
I think Hines from Athens deserves some consideration as well because of his dominance in the paint. It's not all about points.
I would like to know some stats on some of these players. I think for alot of us POY was decided prior to start of season.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by 93Bulldog » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:29 pm

One poster posted that Butcher and Williams are the two best players for Athens and should never leave the floor.

Another poster thinks Eli Chubb is the best player for his all around solid play.

Last two posters say Hines should be in the running for POY

How in the world is this team (3-8)? Hahaha



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by VisionQuest » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:31 pm

bburner wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:45 pm
I need to see at least scoring rebounding & assist stats. I've seen Speakman vs NY but no Yates. I thought Bohyer for NY was best player that night with 23 rebounds and 33 pts despite Speakman's 42.
I think Hines from Athens deserves some consideration as well because of his dominance in the paint. It's not all about points.
I would like to know some stats on some of these players. I think for alot of us POY was decided prior to start of season.
Yes, there is so much more to this then PPG. If I am looking at a player I look at Rebounds, Shot blocking, defense, getting the rebounds and getting the ball out quick to get into transition, I like the player who has that Court Vision holding his head up while he dribbles and scanning the floor, I like that player who takes quality shots and makes the extra pass and rarely makes turnovers, I like the player who loves to play and is Unselfish, ultimately that player who is not interested in Numbers which is what we all are on here talking about.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Ironman92 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:34 pm

If Mattox finishes strong (wouldn’t surprise anyone) and help Meigs continue to gather wins like @Alexander AND Yates/Speakman take turns being VC’s top player.

The vote could definitely be interesting.



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