Possible POY in TVC

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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by hawkeyepierce » Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:51 am

Oldtimer1 wrote:
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At the banquet I believe it was announced that Speakman was first team and Yates was second team? There was a post that had it switched around. Is there 2 list?
There is the District 13 Coaches Association list, and the AP list. I haven't seen either one, so I don't know for sure.
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Sorry--Mr. Jake Speakman should had at least a share of POY-- he was the glue to the team. I was told by someone at the sports banquet last night at Vinton Co, that it was said Naylan set school record most threes--just wonder how many did he take? and what was his% rate for makes, had to be under 25%---does anyone know?
The POY was selected by the coaches. Unfortunately, no two from the same school has ever shared POY. Athens tried to make this a strong argument when they had Burrow and Williams in football, their senior year. It didn't happen then.

Naylan holds two records, for most threes in a season, 87, breaking the old mark of 70, and the most threes in a career, 175. I know the answer to the percentage question and I will keep it to myself, I am tired of embarrassing you.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by mattash » Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:46 pm

Who's leading?



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by VisionQuest » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:14 pm

Kearns from Alex, Baer from Meigs, Toss up between Maxfield and Chubb from Athens. Front runners IMO



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

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VisionQuest wrote:
Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:14 pm
Kearns from Alex, Baer from Meigs, Toss up between Maxfield and Chubb from Athens. Front runners IMO
I don’t see a ton of Athens but when I do Hynes is the guy killing the other team



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Raider6309 » Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:17 pm

mattash wrote:
Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:46 pm
Who's leading?
Maxfield



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

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NOBODY IS IN THE LEAD.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Sniper_Fan » Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:33 am

If Athens wins the conference it will go to probably go to a Bulldog. If I were picking now, Chubb or Hines would be my choice or POY, even though when the Dogs are really clicking is when Williams and Butcher are playing well.

Kearns if the Spartans win



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by VetteMan » Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:14 pm

Meigs will not finish high enough in the league, if they did, Weston Baer would be my pick.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Johnstown » Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:16 pm

Athens- Butcher is playing simply fantastic. He and Kerns are the leagues best hands down. Chubb having a very good year I am a huge Elijah Williams fan. Raider was right last season the fellow is fantastic.. The Big H playing hard every night. Hats off to coaching staff. 15 and 3 since they were forced to make changes last season.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Allthewayup11 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:25 am

Johnstown wrote:
Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:16 pm
Athens- Butcher is playing simply fantastic. He and Kerns are the leagues best hands down. Chubb having a very good year I am a huge Elijah Williams fan. Raider was right last season the fellow is fantastic.. The Big H playing hard every night. Hats off to coaching staff. 15 and 3 since they were forced to make changes last season.
If we are assuming it will be an Athens player then It is hard for Maxfield to not be considered along. The kid is always one of there top scorers if not the scorer in a lot of games. Also his hustle is out matched. Lastly, does that Kidd ever come off the court? He seems to be more all around solid. I have seen multiple comments in the paper or articles about game winning steals and being more athletically ready this year to compete. He seems to be the glue that holds that team together at times.

I can’t see Butcher is there yet. He had the one big game against Nelsonville but is constantly being pulled off the floor. Technicals, foul trouble or just taking bad shots. Don’t get me wrong. When he’s on he’s on, but from the score line from the paper, I’ve only seen him at the top one time.

Hynes is solid but struggled until the last two games. Especially at the free throw line. He puts that together and then he’s a contender. I look for him to be a bigger part of the offense.

Chubb is coming along now as well but struggled a ton at the beginning. If he continues on his hot streak then it will be a close race to the end provided they keep winning.

If we are talking others, i think it will depend on how Kearns performs against Athens in the second match up and if continues to put together a solid season. I listened to the game on the radio and he sounded like he couldn’t miss.

Baer will have to have strong showings against Athens, Vinton and Alexander to get that vote i would think. Solid player though.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Allthewayup11 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:41 am

Ironman92 wrote:
Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:50 pm
VisionQuest wrote:
Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:14 pm
Kearns from Alex, Baer from Meigs, Toss up between Maxfield and Chubb from Athens. Front runners IMO
I don’t see a ton of Athens but when I do Hynes is the guy killing the other team
Anyone with Stats?



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by VisionQuest » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:46 pm

Remember defense doesn't matter when you are choosing POY. It's all about scoring. So your answer as to who is leading should be the leading scorer in TVC games from the team with the best record so far. Maybe 93Bulldog can help or Lukas Moore. They should have the statistics on who the leading scorer has been in the 4 TVC games so far.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Ironman92 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:21 pm

VisionQuest wrote:
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Remember defense doesn't matter when you are choosing POY. It's all about scoring. So your answer as to who is leading should be the leading scorer in TVC games from the team with the best record so far. Maybe 93Bulldog can help or Lukas Moore. They should have the statistics on who the leading scorer has been in the 4 TVC games so far.
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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by pfloyd » Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:22 pm

... I would be interested to see the game stats for Gavin Arbaugh for Vinton County (he had 20 vs Alexander) ... Maxfield/Hynes/Chubb for Athens ... Alexander (JK Kearns) ... in the games I have seen I would give the early edge to JK Kearns as he does so much with the ball in his hands from the get go - scores it at the rim/in the paint and on the perimeter ... breaks down pressure with his ball handling ... gets everyone else involved with his assists ... the young man does it all and does it all well ... but it is a long season only a few weeks in the books ...


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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by 93Bulldog » Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:16 pm

It's not all about scoring.
Jack Hart won POY for Alex awhile back. Kid was not an offensive threat by any means.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by 93Bulldog » Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:17 pm

I'll look at my score book for Athens when I get home.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by VisionQuest » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:04 pm

pfloyd wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:22 pm
... I would be interested to see the game stats for Gavin Arbaugh for Vinton County (he had 20 vs Alexander) ... Maxfield/Hynes/Chubb for Athens ... Alexander (JK Kearns) ... in the games I have seen I would give the early edge to JK Kearns as he does so much with the ball in his hands from the get go - scores it at the rim/in the paint and on the perimeter ... breaks down pressure with his ball handling ... gets everyone else involved with his assists ... the young man does it all and does it all well ... but it is a long season only a few weeks in the books ...
I should have mentioned Arbaugh. I thought he looked good against Athens also. Maybe had 17? Still early in the season. However; the question from mattash is who is leading? and it seems if we are to be fair it should be a player from the leading TVC team and whoever leads in scoring at this point in games played in the TVC. It seems to me that is what most judge it on, SCORING.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Ironman92 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:10 pm

1. Best Athens player (Maxfield)
2. Kearns
3. Baer
4. Arbaugh
5. Athens 2nd best (Hynes)
6. Athens 3rd best (Butcher)
7. Athens 4th best



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Raider6309 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:10 pm

You can make a case for most players but Maxfield does so much. For the 2009-2010 season Athens had Valentor, Butcher, and Pfaff. You could make a case for all three but Butcher did everything.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by 93Bulldog » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:12 pm

Put me in the category of not viewing SCORING as the ONLY tool to determine POY.

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vs Gallia - Maxfield 9 pts
vs Waverly - Hynes 20 pts
vs RV - Chubb 12 pts
vs Peake - Maxfield 20 pts
vs Vinton - Chubb 14 pts
vs NY - Butcher - 17 pts
vs Alexander - Maxfield 11 pts, Chubb 11 pts
vs New Lex - Chubb 15 pts



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by VisionQuest » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:18 pm

Nobody wanted to look at defense or other statistics last year. So this is my point. The only thing most everyone looked at was SCORING. Nice to see that others are on board. FINALLY!!!



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by VisionQuest » Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:19 pm

Another interesting "quirk" that comes to mind. Maxfield was named defensive POY in football this year. If he gets offensive POY in basketball, will this be a 1st? 93Bulldog you have all the statistics in your vast database. Has this ever been done?



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Johnstown » Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:35 pm

Of course. There were several in the area that were IST TEAM All STATE in football and basketball. Joe Burrow was a D 1 recruit for both sports.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Raider6309 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:52 pm

VisionQuest wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:19 pm
Another interesting "quirk" that comes to mind. Maxfield was named defensive POY in football this year. If he gets offensive POY in basketball, will this be a 1st? 93Bulldog you have all the statistics in your vast database. Has this ever been done?
I'd say that's rare for being defensive POTY in football and POTY in basketball for any league. I'm sure it's happened a few times with offensive POTY. Of course Burrow being most recent



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Ironman92 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:55 pm

Raider6309 wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:52 pm
VisionQuest wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:19 pm
Another interesting "quirk" that comes to mind. Maxfield was named defensive POY in football this year. If he gets offensive POY in basketball, will this be a 1st? 93Bulldog you have all the statistics in your vast database. Has this ever been done?
I'd say that's rare for being defensive POTY in football and POTY in basketball for any league. I'm sure it's happened a few times with offensive POTY. Of course Burrow being most recent
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