Possible POY in TVC

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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by 93Bulldog » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:04 am

Kaheem wasn't a great bball player.

I can't think of a defensive poy, and then bball poy.
Maybe in the TVC Hocking where your best athletes often have success in both sports



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Raider6309 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:06 am

Sunny Kalu was MVP those years in basketball.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Ironman92 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:08 am

Raider6309 wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:06 am
Sunny Kalu was MVP those years in basketball.
Trying to think of defensive stud football players



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Ironman92 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:09 am

93Bulldog wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:04 am
Kaheem wasn't a great bball player.

I can't think of a defensive poy, and then bball poy.
Maybe in the TVC Hocking where your best athletes often have success in both sports
The other way around I’d say Jared Humphreys



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Allthewayup11 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:15 am

93Bulldog wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:12 pm
Put me in the category of not viewing SCORING as the ONLY tool to determine POY.

Athens

vs Gallia - Maxfield 9 pts
vs Waverly - Hynes 20 pts
vs RV - Chubb 12 pts
vs Peake - Maxfield 20 pts
vs Vinton - Chubb 14 pts
vs NY - Butcher - 17 pts
vs Alexander - Maxfield 11 pts, Chubb 11 pts
vs New Lex - Chubb 15 pts
93Bulldog, Maxfield gotta be at the top of scorer of the games he wasnt right? Been pretty clutch at FT line and the huge steals at Chesapeake i read about and a big last second steal vs Alexander. He’s always been all over the court and taking charges turning a game around. I would assume he’s got over 100 now, right? Anyone have access to the offensive team stats? Just curious.

Like to see him matched up against Kearns head to head in the Alley. That would be a tell all.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by 93Bulldog » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:14 am

DPOY in football and basketball POY has happened three times by two different players in the TVC.

Brady Trace (Trimble) was the TVC-Hocking DPY in football in 1997 and 1998 ... and was also the TVC-Hocking POY in basketball in 1998 and 1999.
A.J. Jenkins (Trimble) was the TVC-Hocking DPY in football in 2002 ... and was also the TVC-Hocking POY in basketball in 2004.

To put into perspective how good of an athlete A.J. was ... He was DPOY in football in '02, OPY in football in '03 and POY in basketball in '04.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by VisionQuest » Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:26 am

93Bulldog wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:14 am
DPOY in football and basketball POY has happened three times by two different players in the TVC.

Brady Trace (Trimble) was the TVC-Hocking DPY in football in 1997 and 1998 ... and was also the TVC-Hocking POY in basketball in 1998 and 1999.
A.J. Jenkins (Trimble) was the TVC-Hocking DPY in football in 2002 ... and was also the TVC-Hocking POY in basketball in 2004.

To put into perspective how good of an athlete A.J. was ... He was DPOY in football in '02, OPY in football in '03 and POY in basketball in '04.
Thanks for researching!!! Has made for some interesting perspective and conversation.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Allthewayup11 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:17 pm

Updates? Was wondering how Kearns, Baer, Maxfield, Chubb and others in the race? Any others i am not thinking of in the running? I heard Seale had 22 versus RV.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by dagger19 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:51 pm

I believe Weber from Trimble is playing pretty well believe he is averaging around 20 points a game, 2-3 steals a game and 5-6 rebounds.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Allthewayup11 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:26 pm

dagger19 wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:51 pm
I believe Weber from Trimble is playing pretty well believe he is averaging around 20 points a game, 2-3 steals a game and 5-6 rebounds.
I figured that kid has it locked up for TVC Hocking. Any updates on TVC Ohio?



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Ironman92 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:01 pm

1. Athens best player (Maxfield)
2. Kearns
3. Baer
4. Athens 2nd best player
5. Arbaugh
6. Athens 3rd best player
7. Athens 4th best player



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Allthewayup11 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:55 pm

Ironman92 wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:01 pm
1. Athens best player (Maxfield)
2. Kearns
3. Baer
4. Athens 2nd best player
5. Arbaugh
6. Athens 3rd best player
7. Athens 4th best player
I think the Seale kid should be mentioned in there somewhere. I agree with Maxfield, Kearns, Baer and Arbaugh and maybe Hines at this point.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Johnstown » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:53 pm

Raider said it best all last year. Williams at Athens is really the key and playing great. Butcher impossible to guard. They get MVP



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by 93Bulldog » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:57 pm

Johnstown wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:53 pm
Raider said it best all last year. Williams at Athens is really the key and playing great. Butcher impossible to guard. They get MVP
Williams can be flashy, makes amazing plays, but only averages about 7 ppg & 4 or 5 turnovers. Butcher, while talented, looks disinterested at times. His scoring is way down. Has barely reached double digits in any games.
Maxfield leads the team in scoring, but Chubb is right on his tail. Eli playing really good ball the last 3 or 4 weeks. Top 3 in every statistical category for Athens.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by VisionQuest » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:59 pm

I got to hear the post game run down. I was surprised to hear the stats on Chubb. Went off for 20 tonight with a couple of big 3s and several mid-range jumpers. Sounds like his defense, rebounds, steals and blocks are consistent every game as relayed by the announcer. I’ve always said this about Chubb, he isn’t flashy-just a blue collar player who puts in the work every game and does what his team needs from him. After tonight I think the race for POY between him and Maxfield is now neck and neck. Hoping this team continues their hot streak at the Warrior Dome Friday night!!!



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by JustusLeague » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:00 am

There is no contest between Chubb and Maxfield, my god. Chubb gets that nod, easily.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by JustusLeague » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:01 am

VisionQuest wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:59 pm
I got to hear the post game run down. I was surprised to hear the stats on Chubb. Went off for 20 tonight with a couple of big 3s and several mid-range jumpers. Sounds like his defense, rebounds, steals and blocks are consistent every game as relayed by the announcer. I’ve always said this about Chubb, he isn’t flashy-just a blue collar player who puts in the work every game and does what his team needs from him. After tonight I think the race for POY between him and Maxfield is now neck and neck. Hoping this team continues their hot streak at the Warrior Dome Friday night!!!
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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Reds Fan » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:38 pm

I like JK Kerns from Alex, without him the team doesn't function.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Allthewayup11 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:48 pm

JustusLeague wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:00 am
There is no contest between Chubb and Maxfield, my god. Chubb gets that nod, easily.
I wouldn’t say that at ALL Lol. Wasn’t Maxfield out due to illness? That kid has more leadership ability and essentially has spent every minute on the floor as he is the one constant. I have yet to see Cozart take him out unless he was sick or they were way ahead. That says a lot and this is the first real big game Chubb has had against a very weak Wellston team. There was no way all these kids on Athens weren’t going to avg 10 or more each.

I was there for this one. This was only my second game seeing Athens, but let’s get real, without Maxfield out there the team looked a bit dysfunctional which surprised me just because of their opponent. I would take Williams before Chubb just due to his ability, speed and no his rebounding. I am sure the Maxfield kid would have had his share of those points too if he hadn’t sat 3 plus quarters.

On another note Baer is still lighting it up and i still feel the race is between him and Maxfield at this point. Chubb hasn’t showed me much against a strong team. His big games of Wellston, New Lex and River Valley aren’t defining for me. Granted he’s coming along and just have to see how he back part of the season finishes. I could be wrong but Chubb not on my top three yet.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Allthewayup11 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:49 pm

Allthewayup11 wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:48 pm
JustusLeague wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:00 am
There is no contest between Chubb and Maxfield, my god. Chubb gets that nod, easily.
I wouldn’t say that at ALL Lol. Wasn’t Maxfield out due to illness? That kid has more leadership ability and essentially has spent every minute on the floor as he is the one constant. I have yet to see Cozart take him out unless he was sick or they were way ahead. That says a lot and this is the first real big game Chubb has had against a very weak Wellston team. There was no way all these kids on Athens weren’t going to avg 10 or more each.

I was there for this one. This was only my second game seeing Athens, but let’s get real, without Maxfield out there the team looked a bit out of sync and appeared lazy or just going through the motions which surprised me just because of their opponent. His energy is bar none to most any other player in this league. I would take Williams before Chubb just due to his ability, speed and no his rebounding. I am sure the Maxfield kid would have had his share of those points too if he hadn’t sat 3 plus quarters.

On another note Baer is still lighting it up and i still feel the race is between him and Maxfield at this point. Chubb hasn’t showed me much against a strong team. His big games of Wellston, New Lex and River Valley aren’t defining for me. Granted he’s coming along and just have to see how he back part of the season finishes. I could be wrong but Chubb not on my top three yet.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Allthewayup11 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:51 pm

Ironman92 wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:01 pm
1. Athens best player (Maxfield)
2. Kearns
3. Baer
4. Athens 2nd best player
5. Arbaugh
6. Athens 3rd best player
7. Athens 4th best player
I agree with this but would have Baer 1 or 2. That head to head match up against Athens put Maxfield like one slight notch up but very very close and Kearns at 3 is definitely in that race



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by JustusLeague » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:20 pm

Allthewayup11 wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:48 pm
JustusLeague wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:00 am
There is no contest between Chubb and Maxfield, my god. Chubb gets that nod, easily.
I wouldn’t say that at ALL Lol. Wasn’t Maxfield out due to illness? That kid has more leadership ability and essentially has spent every minute on the floor as he is the one constant. I have yet to see Cozart take him out unless he was sick or they were way ahead. That says a lot and this is the first real big game Chubb has had against a very weak Wellston team. There was no way all these kids on Athens weren’t going to avg 10 or more each.

I was there for this one. This was only my second game seeing Athens, but let’s get real, without Maxfield out there the team looked a bit dysfunctional which surprised me just because of their opponent. I would take Williams before Chubb just due to his ability, speed and no his rebounding. I am sure the Maxfield kid would have had his share of those points too if he hadn’t sat 3 plus quarters.

On another note Baer is still lighting it up and i still feel the race is between him and Maxfield at this point. Chubb hasn’t showed me much against a strong team. His big games of Wellston, New Lex and River Valley aren’t defining for me. Granted he’s coming along and just have to see how he back part of the season finishes. I could be wrong but Chubb not on my top three yet.
ah, maybe being a daddy is screwing with your vision :)



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by VisionQuest » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:38 pm

JustusLeague wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:20 pm
Allthewayup11 wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:48 pm
JustusLeague wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:00 am
There is no contest between Chubb and Maxfield, my god. Chubb gets that nod, easily.
I wouldn’t say that at ALL Lol. Wasn’t Maxfield out due to illness? That kid has more leadership ability and essentially has spent every minute on the floor as he is the one constant. I have yet to see Cozart take him out unless he was sick or they were way ahead. That says a lot and this is the first real big game Chubb has had against a very weak Wellston team. There was no way all these kids on Athens weren’t going to avg 10 or more each.

I was there for this one. This was only my second game seeing Athens, but let’s get real, without Maxfield out there the team looked a bit dysfunctional which surprised me just because of their opponent. I would take Williams before Chubb just due to his ability, speed and no his rebounding. I am sure the Maxfield kid would have had his share of those points too if he hadn’t sat 3 plus quarters.

On another note Baer is still lighting it up and i still feel the race is between him and Maxfield at this point. Chubb hasn’t showed me much against a strong team. His big games of Wellston, New Lex and River Valley aren’t defining for me. Granted he’s coming along and just have to see how he back part of the season finishes. I could be wrong but Chubb not on my top three yet.
ah, maybe being a daddy is screwing with your vision :)
Looks like you touched a nerve Justus. I took a look over at the Football forum and all I can say is this person is a huge Maxfield fan. I like Maxfield and give him credit when credit is due as well as other players. One in particular- however; discredits other players. This poster has always tried to discredit Chubb and other players for Athens for whatever reason(see above posts). I remember reading about Chubb making All-league and All- District and chosen as a top junior in Ohio and he is putting up big numbers this year as reported by 93Bulldog so that’s what I will go by and I will stick by my statement that he and Maxfield are neck and neck in the POY race IMO.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Allthewayup11 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:24 pm

JustusLeague wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:20 pm
Allthewayup11 wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:48 pm
JustusLeague wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:00 am
There is no contest between Chubb and Maxfield, my god. Chubb gets that nod, easily.
I wouldn’t say that at ALL Lol. Wasn’t Maxfield out due to illness? That kid has more leadership ability and essentially has spent every minute on the floor as he is the one constant. I have yet to see Cozart take him out unless he was sick or they were way ahead. That says a lot and this is the first real big game Chubb has had against a very weak Wellston team. There was no way all these kids on Athens weren’t going to avg 10 or more each.

I was there for this one. This was only my second game seeing Athens, but let’s get real, without Maxfield out there the team looked a bit dysfunctional which surprised me just because of their opponent. I would take Williams before Chubb just due to his ability, speed and no his rebounding. I am sure the Maxfield kid would have had his share of those points too if he hadn’t sat 3 plus quarters.

On another note Baer is still lighting it up and i still feel the race is between him and Maxfield at this point. Chubb hasn’t showed me much against a strong team. His big games of Wellston, New Lex and River Valley aren’t defining for me. Granted he’s coming along and just have to see how he back part of the season finishes. I could be wrong but Chubb not on my top three yet.
ah, maybe being a daddy is screwing with your vision :)
Not at all. Call it as I see, hear it and read it on radio and news paper. Definitely not a Chubb hater at all. Each of these kids are key to Athens being successful for the rest of the season. Chubby got talent for sure. And I think he can be a potential for POY for sure. I’m just saying at this point and time those are my opinion of things.

My opinion means nothing here. Everyone is entitled to it. I would be the first one to applaud any kid and those who pick em right. I just note the little stuff and the overall hustle too. That is going to be the biggest factor down the road. Hynes, bar none is one of my favorite players. I am hoping for all these kids they make a great run and can get Athens far into talks for the playoffs. Wouldn’t that be great to see. Either way We have a bunch of impressive kids and not one clear stand out yet.



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Re: Possible POY in TVC

Post by Ironman92 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:51 pm

This is kinda crazy lol. I hope the Athens players don’t read this. I haven’t seen enough of Athens to be any say on this. The games I have watched the last two years....Hynes has been their best player, but by reading on here daily I trust certain posters on here and they seem to believe Maxfield is the best Athens player. Chubb has struggled when I have watched. I’ve seen Butcher look the best too.

Regardless it seems like a few dads are on here, which is fine but it seems as if they don’t appreciate the other players as much. Some of this talk could weaken the Bulldog team IMO



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