Alex @ Athens 2/16

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VisionQuest wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:08 pm
spartans_fan wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:09 pm
VisionQuest wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:48 am Alex is a team of Scrappers. I like Mecums play and the Kearns boy can Shoot. Kam Riley a 3pt threat also. Stone Markins is coming back from an Injury-will he be the X-Factor? I don't see Athens rolling as they are coming off a week long break and haven't seen good man to man for awhile now. Should be a good one.
I agree. Athens is capable of doing some things that Alexander does not handle very well, but not sure they will do it. I really think this will be a five point game one way or the other. Athens seems to have found some continuity over the past three or four weeks. How much has Athens trailed in their current winning streak? Just wondering if the good vibration continues if they fall behind.

It should be a good one.

Go Alex.
Elaborate a little? Like a full court press?
I am not going to give away the secret sauce... but there are teams that Alexander competes with that, record wise, are better than we are. There are other teams we should beat, but the matchup and styles are not a good fit for what Alexander does well. I think Athens can do those things, but they did not do them at the Alley in the first match up.

Good luck to everyone tonight.

Go Alex.


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NOPE--- we gave the game away at Mcarthur. We lost--but it will all be settled on 2/23---see you then.


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vcgrad wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:13 pm NOPE--- we gave the game away at Mcarthur. We lost--but it will all be settled on 2/23---see you then.
No, I MORE TALENTED team beat you then, and they will beat you again........


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therealNY wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:23 pm
vcgrad wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:13 pm NOPE--- we gave the game away at Mcarthur. We lost--but it will all be settled on 2/23---see you then.
No, I MORE TALENTED team beat you then, and they will beat you again........
Im sure one day they will I just don't see it happening this year.


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Athens up 16 - 5 Q1


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58-50 Athens 3:40 left


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71-60 Athens. Maxfield with 23. Now I want a Spartans fan to tell me why this kid doesn't deserve to be POY? One man wrecking crew!!! Athens with 9 in a row and done it without Hynes.


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VisionQuest wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:05 pm 71-60 Athens. Maxfield with 23. Now I want a Spartans fan to tell me why this kid doesn't deserve to be POY? One man wrecking crew!!! Athens with 9 in a row and done it without Hynes.
Because there are better players in the league.....next question?.....


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hateraid wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:27 pm
VisionQuest wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:05 pm 71-60 Athens. Maxfield with 23. Now I want a Spartans fan to tell me why this kid doesn't deserve to be POY? One man wrecking crew!!! Athens with 9 in a row and done it without Hynes.
Because there are better players in the league.....next question?.....
That's different than PERFORMANCE!! You are like your namesake and don't want to admit what this kid has done. You are blind.


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Gutsy effort by Athens without Hines. And nice game by Maxfield offensively - and the team on the boards. I had six players with 4 or more rebounds.

But ,,, If I were to nitpick, which I am really good at ... lol ... the Bulldogs HAVE to figure out what to do late in the quarter and at the end of games. Their clock management, time and score awareness is absolutely atrocious. It has been all year. I don't know how many times this season with 8 point leads, 6 points, 9 points and under a minute to go they throw up ill advised shots, instead of draining the clock and taking the last one. If you have an 8-point lead with 54 seconds left, you DRAIN the clock down and take the last shot!!!! If you set up a play and get a three off, you could possibly have an 11-point lead heading into the next quarter or halftime. If you come down court, fire up a shot and miss and the other team goes down and takes the last shot and hits a three - your possible 11 point lead may be a at 5!!!! That is a HUGE f'ing difference, especially in a tournament game!!!!!


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93Bulldog wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:28 pm Gutsy effort by Athens without Hines. And nice game by Maxfield offensively - and the team on the boards. I had six players with 4 or more rebounds.

But ,,, If I were to nitpick, which I am really good at ... lol ... the Bulldogs HAVE to figure out what to do late in the quarter and at the end of games. Their clock management, time and score awareness is absolutely atrocious. It has been all year. I don't know how many times this season with 8 point leads, 6 points, 9 points and under a minute to go they throw up ill advised shots, instead of draining the clock and taking the last one. If you have an 8-point lead with 54 seconds left, you DRAIN the clock down and take the last shot!!!! If you set up a play and get a three off, you could possibly have an 11-point lead heading into the next quarter or halftime. If you come down court, fire up a shot and miss and the other team goes down and takes the last shot and hits a three - your possible 11 point lead may be a at 5!!!! That is a HUGE f'ing difference, especially in a tournament game!!!!!
That’s all coaching, making kids aware of time and place, situational basketball. You can get by with that the 2nd half of this season, however, won’t work well starting next week.


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Do you have free throw numbers 93Bulldog? I know it was a heck of a lot better than the 1st meeting between these 2. What were the Bulldogs in that loss at the Alley? 11-21
Or something.


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thebarlowbandit wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:56 pm
93Bulldog wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:28 pm Gutsy effort by Athens without Hines. And nice game by Maxfield offensively - and the team on the boards. I had six players with 4 or more rebounds.

But ,,, If I were to nitpick, which I am really good at ... lol ... the Bulldogs HAVE to figure out what to do late in the quarter and at the end of games. Their clock management, time and score awareness is absolutely atrocious. It has been all year. I don't know how many times this season with 8 point leads, 6 points, 9 points and under a minute to go they throw up ill advised shots, instead of draining the clock and taking the last one. If you have an 8-point lead with 54 seconds left, you DRAIN the clock down and take the last shot!!!! If you set up a play and get a three off, you could possibly have an 11-point lead heading into the next quarter or halftime. If you come down court, fire up a shot and miss and the other team goes down and takes the last shot and hits a three - your possible 11 point lead may be a at 5!!!! That is a HUGE f'ing difference, especially in a tournament game!!!!!
That’s all coaching, making kids aware of time and place, situational basketball. You can get by with that the 2nd half of this season, however, won’t work well starting next week.
Unfortunately Athens will probably go down first game. VC is coached much better.


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JustusLeague wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:02 am
thebarlowbandit wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:56 pm
93Bulldog wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:28 pm Gutsy effort by Athens without Hines. And nice game by Maxfield offensively - and the team on the boards. I had six players with 4 or more rebounds.

But ,,, If I were to nitpick, which I am really good at ... lol ... the Bulldogs HAVE to figure out what to do late in the quarter and at the end of games. Their clock management, time and score awareness is absolutely atrocious. It has been all year. I don't know how many times this season with 8 point leads, 6 points, 9 points and under a minute to go they throw up ill advised shots, instead of draining the clock and taking the last one. If you have an 8-point lead with 54 seconds left, you DRAIN the clock down and take the last shot!!!! If you set up a play and get a three off, you could possibly have an 11-point lead heading into the next quarter or halftime. If you come down court, fire up a shot and miss and the other team goes down and takes the last shot and hits a three - your possible 11 point lead may be a at 5!!!! That is a HUGE f'ing difference, especially in a tournament game!!!!!
That’s all coaching, making kids aware of time and place, situational basketball. You can get by with that the 2nd half of this season, however, won’t work well starting next week.
Unfortunately Athens will probably go down first game. VC is coached much better.
Yep we have heard it all before. We love being the UnderDawgs. Going to be a good one.


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VisionQuest wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:03 am
JustusLeague wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:02 am
thebarlowbandit wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:56 pm

That’s all coaching, making kids aware of time and place, situational basketball. You can get by with that the 2nd half of this season, however, won’t work well starting next week.
Unfortunately Athens will probably go down first game. VC is coached much better.
Yep we have heard it all before. We love being the UnderDawgs. Going to be a good one.
No it will not. VC will be pumped for a long tourney run, yet again. Daddy ball might be gone but no way you compare to Yates, Combs & Co.


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JustusLeague wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:06 am
VisionQuest wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:03 am
JustusLeague wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:02 am

Unfortunately Athens will probably go down first game. VC is coached much better.
Yep we have heard it all before. We love being the UnderDawgs. Going to be a good one.
No it will not. VC will be pumped for a long tourney run, yet again. Daddy ball might be gone but no way you compare to Yates, Combs & Co.
Athens equally pumped. Winner will probably play Fairland and be even bigger Underdogs. Both teams want a chance to play in the Convo. This game will be Intense.


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Combs will own Cozart - he will go back to AAU girls team quickly.


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So have to give Maxfield credit. That is the best I have seen him play in the past three years. He was aggressive and a leader. Athens hit some big shots at big times. I agree, they have to get better at end of quarter situations.

Caleb Terry was very good. I don't understand why we stopped pounding the ball to him. Athens had no one that could stop him with Hynes out.

Alexander really struggled against the zone, we have to get better with that. We do not put our shooters in position to get open. I know I am not as smart as the coaches, but you would think we would make some adjustments.

Hope to see all TVC teams make a long tournament run.

Go TVC!


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For Athens seems like the substitution pattern art the end of the first quarter going into three minutes of the second and third into fourth each game are not effective. Vinton County vs Athens in first round play off game will be a classic. Will be a nail biter. Hoping both clubs will be at full strength.
Combs is a HOF coach and Cozart has done a remarkable job this season. Nine straight wins beating teams in the second part of the season after losing in the first part. COY for him.


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I understand taking your players out with a minute and a half before end of quarters for extra rest. But is the trade off worth it? Not having your best, smartest, most experienced players on the court at crucial times? They have gotten away with it throughout the regular season, but I wouldn't do it during the tournament. These kids aren't 35 year old NBA players, the extra minute rest isn't gonna make a huge difference. It's do or die now. I shorten my bench, go with my best and let the chips fall where they may.


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