Rules that the OHSAA should get rid of???

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Get rid of the Euro-step


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I thought the “over the back” call is a shove in the back?

See to many fans hollering about it when ever the 6’7 kid takes the rebound over a smaller kid without really making contact (in the back)


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N2Hoops wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:49 pm
king kong wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:10 pm Dont get rid of any rule, but please for the love of all things holy, bring back the palming the basketball call and jump stop then pivot then pass that never gets called anymore!
Jump stop and pivot ? That's just good fundamental basketball imo.
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A1 catches the ball while both feet are off the floor, alights on one foot, jumps off that foot and comes to a stop with both feet simultaneously hitting the floor. A1 then lifts one foot and throws for a goal or passes.

RULING: Legal. A1 may lift either foot in passing or trying for a goal in this situation. However, A1 may not pivot; that is, A1 may not lift one foot from the floor and then step (touch the floor) with that foot before the ball has left the hand(s). By rule, a pivot means a player “steps once or more than once with the same foot


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carbon_dated wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:45 am Get rid of the Euro-step
the Euro step isn’t traveling so why would u get rid of it? You’d have to ban basically every move the offensive player has to avoid the defender.


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Another “rule” I’d like to see modified is for reserve games to not be played into overtime. This probably would have to be effected on a league-by-league basis, though. If freshman or JV is tied after four periods, call it a tie. I realize this isn’t a very popular position, but it’s a bit much when varsity games aren’t tipping off until well past 8pm because there’s overtime (or worse, double overtime) in the JV game.


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mlittle wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:12 pm
carbon_dated wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:45 am Get rid of the Euro-step
the Euro step isn’t traveling so why would u get rid of it? You’d have to ban basically every move the offensive player has to avoid the defender.
Because this is Murcia’ we don’t need no fancy European moves.


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thebarlowbandit wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:35 pm
mlittle wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:12 pm
carbon_dated wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:45 am Get rid of the Euro-step
the Euro step isn’t traveling so why would u get rid of it? You’d have to ban basically every move the offensive player has to avoid the defender.
Because this is Murcia’ we don’t need no fancy European moves.
:lol: :lol: :lol:


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I'd like to see fouls actually called when they occur. I don't want to watch them beat on each other and I certainly don't think most kids enjoy playing like that. Too many officials just don't want to blow their whistle these days.


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watermeloncrawl wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:19 am
BigChuck wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:00 am
Prepper wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:32 am Honestly, I don't think you should be taken out of the game after 5 fouls. Some schools are put at a disadvantage by this due to having a small roster and not having any subs. Its just high school basketball, not the NBA.
That's the whole freaking idea! Play good defense and you are not in this situation. You must be one of those people that feels each kid should get a 2 foot trophy for simply showing up. GEEEEEEZZZZZZ!!!!!!
i agree man people like this on the preps are just stupid
People like you just judge others for their opinions! Take a look in the mirror and then you'll see someone who doesn't belong on the preps! :evil:


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Honestly implement some form of play clock, whether it be 35 or 40, I feel that it would bring a slightly more fast-paced feel to the game.


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Thinking back on this year, in 40+ varsity games that I've seen, maybe 30 have had even one possession last over 40 seconds and those would nearly all be at the end of a quarter. But, if you've been to a game at Unioto recently, you know that we couldn't do a shot clock, because our clock breaks once a night lol

I used to be all for the charge circle, but that just adds even more that needs to be seen that I no longer think it is necessary either.


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carbon_dated wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:45 am Get rid of the Euro-step
That's not a rule pal. Its a move.


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Prepper wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:07 am
watermeloncrawl wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:19 am
BigChuck wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:00 am

That's the whole freaking idea! Play good defense and you are not in this situation. You must be one of those people that feels each kid should get a 2 foot trophy for simply showing up. GEEEEEEZZZZZZ!!!!!!
i agree man people like this on the preps are just stupid
People like you just judge others for their opinions! Take a look in the mirror and then you'll see someone who doesn't belong on the preps! :evil:
yeah you dont belong on preps!!!!!!!!


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Prepper wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:07 am
watermeloncrawl wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:19 am
BigChuck wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:00 am

That's the whole freaking idea! Play good defense and you are not in this situation. You must be one of those people that feels each kid should get a 2 foot trophy for simply showing up. GEEEEEEZZZZZZ!!!!!!
i agree man people like this on the preps are just stupid
People like you just judge others for their opinions! Take a look in the mirror and then you'll see someone who doesn't belong on the preps! :evil:
That comment was completely out of line man


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Go back to allowing arm bars in the post and get rid of this "displacement" garbage where some officials call fouls for "boxing out".


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Allow pre game dunking. It's fun for fans to see. Also, let players roll their shorts. It's unfair for a 5'10 player get stuck with XL shorts and have them be sagging to his shins.


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Prepper wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:32 am Honestly, I don't think you should be taken out of the game after 5 fouls. Some schools are put at a disadvantage by this due to having a small roster and not having any subs. Its just high school basketball, not the NBA.
Exactly, if it was the NBA they would get 6 fouls


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Jr High = 24 min and 5 fouls
Freshman = 24 min and 5 fouls
JV = 24-28 min and 5 fouls
Varsity = 32 min and 5 fouls
College = 40 min and 5 fouls
NBA = 48 min and 6 fouls

Seems like the perfect development to me as players learn how to play defense correctly per how to avoid fouling too much.


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Double dribble -- Any time the ball hits the floor after touching the hand(s) of a player and is gathered back by that player without anyone else touching it, and then the player dribbles, it should be called double dribble. Now the currently in vogue way to call it, most of the time, is to not call it. Players are getting used to receiving the ball by letting it glance off their hands down to the floor and re-adjusting their feet as it bounces back up into their hands, then starting their move by dribbling -- should be double dribble. It should not matter if the regathering is due ineptness in being able to gather it initially, or by cunning, it all should be called double dribble.

Walking -- not called strict enough on its own volition. But called too much instead of a foul when the player with the ball is displaced by an opponent when in possession of the ball.

Fouls -- not enough called on offensive players when they move into defenders, on the floor, or in the air, and displace the defender, either by no calls or worse, calling the foul on the defender

Change the fouls for bonus shots on non shooting fouls to a quarterly basis, 1 &1 on 4th and 5th of each quarter. Gives a chance to use more defensive strategies in a half. Can try to press in the 3rd qtr without being hamstrung by the opposition being in bonus for the rest of the game if it doesn't work out very well.

Call a foul a foul and let the teams and players adjust. I heard a coach on the radio anticipate that his opponent goes into the game figuring they will foul 40 times, but the officials will only call 20. The teams that are deep usually do this kind of thing. Fairness is not in a shot clock, but in retaining the 5 sec call and allowing a less deep team to be able to possess the ball with good ball handling to protect their players by playing defense a smaller percentage of the game.


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If more fouls are allowed before disqualification, then it just increases the number of fouls the officials have to call before the players and teams adjust.

I would like to see an extra foul given for each overtime(except for anyone who has been assessed a technical), but if a player commits a 6th foul in OT, or 7th in double OT, etc, whether it is player control or illegal pick, the opponent gets two FTs and retains possession.


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