Wheelersburg vs harvest prep

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IMO Wheelersburg is somewhat like large D1 colleges such as Ohio State or Alabama in that they do not necessarily have to sell themselves to anyone. The culture that has been created will continue and be maintained by the students that are there. They will not change for anyone and if that doesn't suit your liking then you are more than welcome to go elsewhere. Winning and academic success lure these families in and rightfully so. At the end of the day, you are highly mistaken if you think Wheelersburg coaches actively recruit players....it just doesn't happen, but then again if you call creating an atmosphere and culture of success as a style of recruiting then I suppose you may be partly correct.


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spider2Ybanana wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:41 am At the end of the day, you are highly mistaken if you think Wheelersburg coaches actively recruit players....it just doesn't happen
I'll just say that there are alot of people who will disagree with that statement. Even been some examples mentioned in this thread.


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seems like a lot of here say.


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Urban wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:29 pm
spider2Ybanana wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:41 am At the end of the day, you are highly mistaken if you think Wheelersburg coaches actively recruit players....it just doesn't happen
I'll just say that there are alot of people who will disagree with that statement. Even been some examples mentioned in this thread.
Wheelersburg image does a lot of recruiting itself, no doubt. But to say your program doesn't recruit is like saying improper benefits does not exist at the college level.


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CavalierAlum05 wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:05 am
Urban wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:29 pm
spider2Ybanana wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:41 am At the end of the day, you are highly mistaken if you think Wheelersburg coaches actively recruit players....it just doesn't happen
I'll just say that there are alot of people who will disagree with that statement. Even been some examples mentioned in this thread.
Wheelersburg image does a lot of recruiting itself, no doubt. But to say your program doesn't recruit is like saying improper benefits does not exist at the college level.
I did not see in this thread nor any place else where there was a specific PROOF of coach recruitment by the head coach of any teams at Burg. If Urban knows so much, then he can specifically give date, time, player, and conversation of such action. The programs at burg is what attracts student to the school. Harvest Prep is not public and they can try to entice any student to attend there school because of it's privatization for any reason they choose.


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Urban wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:29 pm
spider2Ybanana wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:41 am At the end of the day, you are highly mistaken if you think Wheelersburg coaches actively recruit players....it just doesn't happen
I'll just say that there are alot of people who will disagree with that statement. Even been some examples mentioned in this thread.
So is it the so called “recruiting” that your alleging that is happening or is it just Wheelersburg in general that you can’t stand?


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What about the affluent community you live in, to send kids to camps, travel ball, parents staying over nite for days at a time. For these tournaments, plus extra equipment most of time the most expensive stuff in each sport. Food, gas week after week and season after a season, that adds up and is very expensive on top of daily living expenses, plus clothes etc. if the socioeconomics of a certain area most community’s doesn’t have a endless pit of funds to spend hundreds every month on extra sports. so advantage goes to community’s that can send kids to aau ,travel ball summer camps and spend tons of money
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Business being asked to give money continuous, grand parents, parents, kids at red lights with buckets, , if that area can’t do that , sometimes they can’t do what other community’s can do, there again advantage to the affluent areas


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Here’s a question. Do you go in debt, borrow from relatives spend your paycheck just for sports and staying up with the Jones’s most family’s struggle to just get by and kids are at a disadvantage from the start. Anyone else have thoughts on these theory’s.


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Wheelersburg is basically an interim private School. Ironton use to be that. Wonder who will be the next short term private school? Because it never last. I'm guessing Fairland will be your next interim Private School...
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bsee12345 wrote: Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:09 pm The football divisor is 2 so you have to divide the competitive balance number by 2 to see how many kids you are looking at. So Wheelersburg competitive balance is 30 so divide by 2 is 15 kids maximum. Could be less if the program has some 2 rating kids.
If a kid had been attending the school since before the 7th grade they get a 0 rating.
Entering the school district in 7th or 8th grade get a 1 rating.
Entering the school in 9th grade or higher is a 2 rating.

Add up your rosters rating and multiple the football divisor of 2.

Harvest Prep has a basketball competitive number of 120 with basketball by a divisor of 5. So up to 24 kids in the Harvest Prep basketball have entered the school since 7th grade.
HP had 12, 11 of which enrolled after last school year ended.


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Sobering thought for Burg is no matter how great of players Holden and Truitt are, they have no chance to compete with whatever machine the Central District sends down to Athens. It took a monster performance from Holden just to stay within 20 of Harvest Prep.

Don't see anything changing next year as D3 has become the AAU cess pool division due to competitive balance pushing the private schools out of D4.*


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So much for Burg thinking they lost to the eventual State Champs, as Harvest went down last night.

Not only do I not think they lost to the team who lost to the eventual state champion, I think they lost to the team that lost to to the team that lost to the state champion (wrap your mind around that conundrum).

In lesser words, I think Deer Park wins the D3 title.


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Congrats to Burg for going farther than most school in Ohio. Plus they advanced past the school were these people are putting them down. Not many school win a fall championship and advance as far as they did in a winter sports. Burg will do well in the spring sports too. Good chance of winning the SOC track crown in both boys and girls. Sounds like a very solid 2017/18 year in sports for THE BURG.


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art_vandelay wrote: Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:38 am Sobering thought for Burg is no matter how great of players Holden and Truitt are, they have no chance to compete with whatever machine the Central District sends down to Athens. It took a monster performance from Holden just to stay within 20 of Harvest Prep.

Don't see anything changing next year as D3 has become the AAU cess pool division due to competitive balance pushing the private schools out of D4.*
AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY, AFRICENTRIC (CAN ENROLL ANYONE IN COLUMBUS WHEN WANTING TO) AND DEER PARK (8 TRANSFERS) IN DIII THIS YEAR. WHO CARES WHO WINS BUT ONE OF THEM HAS TO LOSE. AS SAID ABOVE, THE CB HAS PUSHED THE PRIVATE DIV SCHOOLS DOWN A DIVISION BUT EVEN AT THAT YOU NOW HAVE THE CORNERSTONE'S OF THE WORLD THE LAST FEW YEARS (MOSTLY 'CHRISTIAN' NOT CATHOLIC SCHOOLS)TO THE FOREFRONT OF DIV IN BASKETBALL. IT'LL NEVER STOP.


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This topic has been hilarious! It is the same principle that Burg lives by. Develop the best athletic program and school and kids will come! Just be cause schools are located in the city does not change it. Yes ... they have more kids to encourage to come to their school but it is the same principle! Do not give me this crap school personnel does not encourage kids to attend their schools.


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Harvest Prep recruits
Wheelersburg recruits

What are we arguing about? Who’s better at recruiting?


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CavalierAlum05 wrote: Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:27 pm Harvest Prep recruits
Wheelersburg recruits

What are we arguing about? Who’s better at recruiting?
No recruiting necessary. Until other HS programs get better where do you want to play in Scioto County? And academically you’ll do well. Like the field of dreams...build it and they will come.


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rxburgfan wrote: Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:55 pm
CavalierAlum05 wrote: Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:27 pm Harvest Prep recruits
Wheelersburg recruits

What are we arguing about? Who’s better at recruiting?
No recruiting necessary. Until other HS programs get better where do you want to play in Scioto County? And academically you’ll do well. Like the field of dreams...build it and they will come.
That's a sad state of affair . Wonder how many of these kids regret transferring . TOUGHER TRANSFER RULES SHOULD BE FORTH COMING and they just might be .Come on OHSAA step forward . I'm looking for improvement.


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Truth&fiction wrote: Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:46 pm
rxburgfan wrote: Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:55 pm
CavalierAlum05 wrote: Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:27 pm Harvest Prep recruits
Wheelersburg recruits

What are we arguing about? Who’s better at recruiting?
No recruiting necessary. Until other HS programs get better where do you want to play in Scioto County? And academically you’ll do well. Like the field of dreams...build it and they will come.
That's a sad state of affair . Wonder how many of these kids regret transferring . TOUGHER TRANSFER RULES SHOULD BE FORTH COMING and they just might be .Come on OHSAA step forward . I'm looking for improvement.
Let's say that awful new rule passes. A kid who might need to transfer for a variety of reasons (that could be beyond basketball, football, etc.), they will miss an entire season of athletics. Because really, what coach is going to play someone who will be gone after the first half of the season? Y'all say it'll be better, but people would just find more creative ways around it and honestly things would be even worse.


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