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Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio - Pre Season 2018-19

Post by pfloyd » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:37 pm

... Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio - PreSeason ...

1. Logan
2. Gallia Academy
3. Sheridan
4. Chillicothe
5. Jackson
6. Warren
7. Wheelersburg
8. Athens


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Waverly
Zane Trace
Eastern Pike
Ironton
Eastern Brown
Logan Elm
Piketon
15

Chesapeake
Fairfield Leesburg
Fairfield Union
Unioto
Whiteoak
Paint Valley
North Adams
Meigs
Washington CH
Vinton County
25

Waterford
New Boston
South Webster
Portsmouth
Oak Hill
Trimble
Fairland
Peebles
Adena
Minford
35

Green
Marietta
New Lexington
South Point
Huntington
West Union
Coal Grove
Lynchburg Clay
Westfall
Manchester
45

Alexander
Southern
St. Joseph
Western Pike
Belpre
Circleville
Southeastern
Portsmouth West
Wellston
Nelsonville York
55

Federal Hocking
Symmes Valley
Miller
Hillsboro
Miami Trace
Portsmouth Clay
Crooksville
Portsmouth Notre Dame
Portsmouth East
River Valley
65

Lucasville Valley
Greenfield McClain
South Gallia
Eastern Reedsville
Northwest
Wahama
Rock Hill

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Post by Reds Fan » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:43 pm

is this Jackson's highest pre season rank ever?



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Post by Ironman92 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:20 pm

Eastern Brown lost their all-league player to Whiteoak



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Post by Ironman92 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:20 pm

Jackson sounds like they’ll be without Nevan Yates



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Post by Chieftain2009 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:26 pm

Good stuff! As of right now, Logan will be playing 5 of the preseason top 8 teams (5 teams-6 games) at some point this season.


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Post by Ironman92 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:03 pm

I can’t fathom how Piketon will be top 15



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Post by Smokyhollowbandit » Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:00 am

Ironman92 wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:03 pm
I can’t fathom how Piketon will be top 15
I understand that Perdue graduated and is not at Piketon anymore along with a few others, but the Streaks still return key guys (Lighlte, Reader, Blanton,Little, Thacker, Mathews). I expect Junior guard Logan Nichols to play valuable minutes along with a few sophomores coming up who could possibly some playing time. Piketon may not have a guy that will go for 40 every night but with the right game plan night in and night out and everyone contributing and doing their part Piketon will win plenty of games. The Redstreaks were a district final team last year and I don’t see any reason why they shouldn’t be back in it this year.Lastly before I get to my thoughts on about the Streaks pre-season ranking I think the Streaks can challenge Zane Trace in the SVC and possibly win it should be a fun year of basketball and for the Redstreaks As for the Pre-Season ranking I think Piketon is where they should be at right now and I believe we will definitely see the Streaks in Pfloyd’s Top 8



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Post by noreply66 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:02 am

Without a big man Logan worries me


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Post by Maroon2018 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:29 am

Fed Hock moved way up the list from the end of last season.



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Post by buckeye23 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:37 am

Coal Grove at #42..... :roll: they will win 15 games this year, and make another D4 tournament run :!: :!:

Ironton lost their best shooter in Adkins :shock:

Chesapeake will beat a few teams that are better than them because of Davis, but they will be down again :lol:

Fairland will be athletic and good on D. They have a solid freshman group coming up (not sure if any of them are ready for varsity bball though) :?: :?:

South Point has arguably the best guard in SEO in Fox. He is coming off of a knee injury though. 10-15 wins this year for the Pointers :?: :?

Gallia will be solid with 7'1" Loveday protecting the rim, and a solid group of veteran guards around him. They'll stay in the Top 8 all year. D2 is tough though :P
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Post by ShoeHorn » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:46 am

IMO. Alexander is too low, Chillicothe is too high, Gallia/Logan should be flipped and Athens/Jackson should be flipped. Good stuff, I'm ready for some basketball.



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Post by Chieftain Fan » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:06 am

noreply66 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:02 am
Without a big man Logan worries me
Landis was not a true post player. He liked to drift outside . The Chiefs starting 5 could be their tallest over all . All 6'1and taller and will run the floor well.



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Post by Chieftain Fan » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:10 am

Now that is a lot of work! Of course I like your picks but honestly this is your passion. Is the old Van ready for the road?



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Post by danicalifornia » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:01 am

Logan was fine without a true post player last year. A bunch of guys back from a 20 win team puts them at the top.

Chillicothe is going to be scary good next season and should be really good this year. Jayvon Maughmer is going to be a monster, then mix in Noel, Beard, and Miller and they have a great core.

I personally would have had Waverly in, with Jackson just outside, but that’s why this is posted early, to get those opinions out there and to create a lot of discussion. Waverly might lack a consistent “go-to” scorer this year, but man they have some athletes and can really get in you defensively.

Jackson will be very good though. Really tough group of kids.

Adena will be a team to watch out of the SVC. Played a ton of freshmen last year and started to get pretty competitive about halfway through the season. They have a couple of really solid seniors in their mix too. Maybe not a 15 win team yet, but they will be very good by tournament time if they stay healthy.



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Post by Reds Fan » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:22 am

Ironman92 wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:20 pm
Jackson sounds like they’ll be without Nevan Yates
I have heard that the Davis boy is not playing basketball either, hope this isn't true he is a great talent and had a great freshman season



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Post by Ukfanatic » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:25 am

I agree Dani I would have liked to see Waverly in the top 8. Last year knocked Sheridan and Jackson out of the tournament. split with Wheelersburg and return what I believe will be the best back court in SEO in Remington and Marquez along with Robertson. Good news is they will have their chance to prove it on the court as they will play Athens, Chillicothe, Wheelersburg x2, and Jackson in the regular season. They play Athens in the first game of the year and travel to Chillicothe in January for what very well could be the most athletic matchup of the year. They will also see Alexander at the Beasts of the East and will probably play both Piketon and Eastern Pike in the holiday classic. What a schedule! Jackson will be very good and definitely elite 8 material if yates plays for them. Eastern Pike will have a great record as no one in the SOC 1 should beat them. Going to be a great year. Thanks for all of your hard work Pfloyd. As always don't agree with everything but have the utmost respect for your knowledge and hard work.



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Post by basketball12349 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:45 am

Alexander is a much stronger team then what you have them at. With a 6'11" post player who can control all areas in the paint, offense and defensively that can destroy anyone who comes in his area and extremely strong shooters always in the corner waiting for a kick out and the fastest guard in the TVC. They are returning many players from last year along with four returning starters. Much more experience with playing in big games this year. Looking forward to the Alexander Athens game. WAY underrated!!



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Post by OHHS old timer » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:59 pm

noreply66 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:02 am
Without a big man Logan worries me
Big 10-4 there.


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Post by OHHS old timer » Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:04 pm

Plenty of time for everyone to opine. I'm just looking forward to another great year SEO hoops. Good luck to all !!!


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Post by Chieftain2009 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:17 pm

noreply66 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:02 am
Without a big man Logan worries me
I don't think that anyone close to the program, or anyone familiar with the program is too worried about that. They'll have plenty of size and tons of experience.


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Post by ShoeHorn » Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:15 pm

basketball12349 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:45 am
Alexander is a much stronger team then what you have them at. With a 6'11" post player who can control all areas in the paint, offense and defensively that can destroy anyone who comes in his area and extremely strong shooters always in the corner waiting for a kick out and the fastest guard in the TVC. They are returning many players from last year along with four returning starters. Much more experience with playing in big games this year. Looking forward to the Alexander Athens game. WAY underrated!!
I agree that they are a little too low but disagree with the fastest guard in the TVC. The fastest and quickest guard in the TVC is Elijah Williams from Athens.



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Post by Coach SLegg » Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:44 pm

PFloyd,
Put this on your calendar...have you ever been to The Oven in Piketon?
Opening weekend of the season at Piketon on December 1st:
White Oak Girls vs Piketon Girls
Southeastern vs Portsmouth
Athens vs Waverly...I think from my records last time Waverly played at Piketon was 1968-69 or 1969-70
Chesapeake vs Piketon
Should be a great evening of basketball before a standing room only crowd at the crossroads (Routes 23 & 32) of southern Ohio.


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Post by Dundas » Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:10 pm

VC has 5 games against the top 8 and 6 against the top ten in the preseason rankings! Yikes!! I believe this is the lowest starting spot (25th) for the Vikings in years. Lots of youth on this years team. Coach Combs always gets the most out of the kids, so although it will be a challenge, it should be fun to watch! Nice job as always pfloyd! Looking forward to seeing you in McArthur a few times this winter!



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Post by trojandave » Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:21 pm

CoachSLegg: Do you have the times of the games for that opening weekend at Piketon? Looking forward to coming to the Oven, and it looks like some interesting matchups.

Buckeye23: I have to agree/disagree with you on some points about the OVC teams you listed. Here is my take on the entire OVC:

Coal Grove: The loss of 6-4 Sam Angelo and 6-4 Jeb Jones are major losses for the Hornets, because this year's team will be lacking that physical presence inside that helped get them to the regionals. Music and Borders return, so they should be solid at guard. I don't think that will translate to 15 wins, though.

Chesapeake: The Panthers only lost 1 starter, and have one of the best sophomores in the OVC in Eli Archer, who scored 21 points at Portsmouth last season. Outside shooting is a major concern, though, but the Purple should be considerably better.

Ironton: They did lose Adkins, but Charlie Large, Ethan Wilson return as 4 year varsity players, and also sophomore Reid Carrico returns in the post to give the Fighting Tigers a tough, physical player in the paint. This same group only lost to Wheelersburg by 6 points in the sectional final last year.

South Point: Tayshawn Fox does return, hopefully healthy from that knee injury, and also 6-3 SO post Webb gives the Pointers an offensive threat down low. I have SP in the middle of the pack in the OVC.

Fairland: They did indeed have a really good 8th grade team, and they had a good JV squad. Their freshmen lost to the Portsmouth freshmen last year, and our freshmen struggled for the most part. With the varsity losing the top 6 players, reloading is not the buzzword in Proctorville.

Gallia Academy: The prohibitive favorite to win the OVC, and they should do it in convincing fashion, maybe undefeated in league play. The Blue Devils of course have Zach Loveday, but what will make them really good is the surrounding cast around them. Cory Call should be one of their top players, and PG McClelland will be one of the best at his position in the league.

Rock Hill: The Redmen have struggled to get out of the basement of the OVC, and I do know that their JV smashed Portsmouth's JV last season(PHS JV went 1-21), so with the OVC not being quite as strong as last season, RH may have a chance to post a few more wins, and maybe get out of the 8th spot in the standings.

Portsmouth: Honestly, my Trojans (4 starters lost) are a year away from being really good, but this season will be exciting because PHS will put its most athletic team on the court since the 2015 regional finalist. 4 of our starting 5 looks to be: 6-3 SR MyQuel McKinley, 6-0 SR Daniel Lattimore, 6-2 JR Matthew Fraulini, and 6-2 SO Miles Shipp. The 5th starter is wide open. 6-6 SR Andrew Meadows will help out greatly in the post with his defense. Also 5-7 FR Amare Johnson, 6-0 FR Dariyonne Bryant, 6-0 SO Michael Duncan, and 6-1 JR Richie Bowman will figure to get a lot of minutes. Johnson could end up the 5th starter. He is a high motor player who never stops, and is super quick. Coach Eugene Collins will field one of the youngest teams in PHS history, but one that will be ready to challenge for the OVC in 2019-2020, and make a tournament run to the regionals or state. (Yes, the state, that's the mindset at Portsmouth, and Coach Collins always mentions that in his preseason summary of the team.....he's been there twice, in 2011 and 2012)

Here's how I rate the OVC from top to bottom:

1.Gallia Academy
2. Ironton
3. Chesapeake
4. South Point
5. Fairland
6. Coal Grove
7. Portsmouth
8. Rock Hill

I could be totally wrong, but that's what I'm sticking with.



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Post by mattash » Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:33 pm

Music and Borders for Coal Grove should average 15-20+ per game not sure if they have any bigs to help them though.

Fox and Chaffins from SP will be solid.



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