Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio - Pre Season 2018-19

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Post by pfloyd » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:16 pm

Just looked at Logan Elm's schedule on Arbiterlive ... it show the Braves playing at the ZT Tip Off Classic on Friday November 30th ...

6:45 ... Bloom Carrol vs Jackson
8:30 ... Logan Elm vs Bishop Ready


BUT when looked at the schedules for McClain & Jackson ... neither show them playing at the ZT Tip Off Classic ... shows Jackson's first game of the season not until the 4th of Dec vs Wellston ... McClain's first game also Dec 4th but vs Lynchburg Clay ... usually someone "in the know" will post a thread about the ZT Tip Off Classic with ALL of the details & match-ups ... I HOPE the Friday Nov.30th menu of games is correct ! - 2 more SEOhio teams to get an early "eyes on" /napkin stat/early season idea as what they have in both Jackson & Logan Elm ... LE USUALLY plays in the ZT get-together so it sounds right that they would be scheduled ... BC was at the ZT Classic last year vs Vinton County ... this might be the first time I have seen Jackson scheduled to play at ZT in all the years I have been attending - BUT it's good to see one my top 8 teams early on to gauge their improvement throughout the season ...


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Post by pfloyd » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:49 pm

Wow !!! November 30th DOES NOT sound that far away !!! ... the Athens Shriners TVC Preview is usually on the Friday or Saturday after Thanksgiving - I get to watch the majority of teams in the TVC for a couple of quarters each - I KNOW "previews" are not anything to get much from BUT I DO GET a program with the rosters for the participants ! ... you also see the athletes on the teams, I look at the fundamentals or lack of fundamentals each team has or doesn't have ... the good TEAMS whether they "show much" or not in the Preview - still show the fundamentals that the coaching staff has coached/taught ... I go for the hot dogs/twizzlers and the opportunity to give 93Bulldog a hard time ! besides I get an opportunity to run into lots of the seops posters from the TVC, hoops friends from all of the TVC schools ... Kevin Wiseman - sports director for the Athen Messenger is usually there ... it's a great way to touch bases with friends/fans of high school basketball ...


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Post by svac83 » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:17 pm

gallia academy at logan December 28th nice holiday treat. almost it wasnt during the break though like to see the blue devils in some hostile envirnements



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Post by pfloyd » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:26 pm

svac83 wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:17 pm
gallia academy at logan December 28th nice holiday treat. almost it wasnt during the break though like to see the blue devils in some hostile envirnements
... I totally enjoy being able to see teams during the holiday break BUT with the change in routine, the holidays themselves - those holiday break games are tough on teams ... but it's that way for all of the teams ... I've got that Dec 28 matchup between the Purple and GAHS circled on my Hoops calendar - should be a good one ! potentially my Pre-season #1 vs #2 to see who belongs at the top of the heap in SEOhio hoops ...


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Post by Pa Trojan » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:52 am

Holiday tourneys are great for the fans and for the revenue.Plus it adds an opportunity to see those matchups you may never have the chance to see. Good for the sport, and the young men just want to play basketball



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Post by VetteMan » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:46 am

pfloyd wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:26 pm
svac83 wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:17 pm
gallia academy at logan December 28th nice holiday treat. almost it wasnt during the break though like to see the blue devils in some hostile envirnements
... I totally enjoy being able to see teams during the holiday break BUT with the change in routine, the holidays themselves - those holiday break games are tough on teams ... but it's that way for all of the teams ... I've got that Dec 28 matchup between the Purple and GAHS circled on my Hoops calendar - should be a good one ! potentially my Pre-season #1 vs #2 to see who belongs at the top of the heap in SEOhio hoops ...
I would say that they Both deserve to be at the Top, plus I think that they " Both " will Stay at the top.



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Post by basketball12349 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:33 am

pfloyd wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:26 pm
svac83 wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:17 pm
gallia academy at logan December 28th nice holiday treat. almost it wasnt during the break though like to see the blue devils in some hostile envirnements
... I totally enjoy being able to see teams during the holiday break BUT with the change in routine, the holidays themselves - those holiday break games are tough on teams ... but it's that way for all of the teams ... I've got that Dec 28 matchup between the Purple and GAHS circled on my Hoops calendar - should be a good one ! potentially my Pre-season #1 vs #2 to see who belongs at the top of the heap in SEOhio hoops ...
Loveday needs to put on some muscle. I feel like if Logan puts someone short and strong that can push him around like a Ruff boy then they should be able to contain him.



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Post by svac83 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:39 pm

When you take a look at loveday. You can tell he is a little bit stronger and thicker. Also think we may be calling him 7’2” or 7’ 3” by this season. When your that tall you can add 20 to 30 lbs and it is virtually unnoticeable



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Post by donaldtrump » Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:08 pm

South Point will be ahead of Chesapeake...South Point will probably finish in 2nd place in the OVC.. 3rd at worse. Chesapeake, Fairland, and Rock Hill will be at the bottom with Portsmouth in the middle most likely but wouldn't surprise me if they were towards the bottom....Gallia, SP and Ironton in my opinion will be your top teams...Gallia has size and speed the pointers good guard play with a good big man and very deep bench.. Ironton will finish 3rd by bullying weaker teams,,Physical play....



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Post by Ironman92 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:26 pm

So how tall is Loveday? He stood out nicely playing his trombone in the band lol. He looks 7’0 to me. 7’2 or 7’3 wouldcertwinly add to the problem of playing against him.

How about Terry kid? Has he grown?



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Post by Reds Fan » Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:51 pm

Ironman92 wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:26 pm
So how tall is Loveday? He stood out nicely playing his trombone in the band lol. He looks 7’0 to me. 7’2 or 7’3 wouldcertwinly add to the problem of playing against him.

How about Terry kid? Has he grown?
I've heard loveday is right at 7 foot and the Terry kid I believe is 6'10



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Post by 93Bulldog » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:30 pm

I like Athens in the 8 spot.
Coach Cozart has a lot of different personalities and players with much different skill sets. If he can make it all mesh and manage those personalties - dogs will be in and around the top 8 all year.



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Post by Ironman92 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:04 pm

93Bulldog wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:30 pm
I like Athens in the 8 spot.
Coach Cozart has a lot of different personalities and players with much different skill sets. If he can make it all mesh and manage those personalties - dogs will be in and around the top 8 all year.
I think he turned that corner last year. Team bought in and had, size, skill and length necessary to make zone work and score enough points. I might have them up a spot or two



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Post by Ironman92 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:18 pm

Right now I’d guess

1. Logan
2. Gallia Academy
3. Sheridan
4. Chillicothe
5. Warren Local
6. Athens
7. Waverly
8. Jackson...if Davis plays and Yates returns in January, with Cooper Donaldson, Caleb Wallis, Caden Donaldson, Braxton Hammond....I think Jackson can be about 5th



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Post by Reds Fan » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:01 am

Ironman92 wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:18 pm
Right now I’d guess

1. Logan
2. Gallia Academy
3. Sheridan
4. Chillicothe
5. Warren Local
6. Athens
7. Waverly
8. Jackson...if Davis plays and Yates returns in January, with Cooper Donaldson, Caleb Wallis, Caden Donaldson, Braxton Hammond....I think Jackson can be about 5th
is it a 50/50 chance that they play? or will it take some serious convincing to get the boys on the hardwood? but I agree if they do play Jackson will be problem for people. having to play a good Jackson team at home will keep coaches up at night thinking of ways to escape with a win.



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Post by Sportsman » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:38 am

How is Wheelersburg not in the TOP 8?



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Post by VetteMan » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:55 pm

Reds Fan wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:01 am
Ironman92 wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:18 pm
Right now I’d guess

1. Logan
2. Gallia Academy
3. Sheridan
4. Chillicothe
5. Warren Local
6. Athens
7. Waverly
8. Jackson...if Davis plays and Yates returns in January, with Cooper Donaldson, Caleb Wallis, Caden Donaldson, Braxton Hammond....I think Jackson can be about 5th
is it a 50/50 chance that they play? or will it take some serious convincing to get the boys on the hardwood? but I agree if they do play Jackson will be problem for people. having to play a good Jackson team at home will keep coaches up at night thinking of ways to escape with a win.
I understand the Yates kid is hurt, why if they don't want to play, is it that important to have to beg them to play? Just asking,know very little about Jackson basketball.



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Post by Ironman92 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:49 pm

VetteMan wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:55 pm
Reds Fan wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:01 am
Ironman92 wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:18 pm
Right now I’d guess

1. Logan
2. Gallia Academy
3. Sheridan
4. Chillicothe
5. Warren Local
6. Athens
7. Waverly
8. Jackson...if Davis plays and Yates returns in January, with Cooper Donaldson, Caleb Wallis, Caden Donaldson, Braxton Hammond....I think Jackson can be about 5th
is it a 50/50 chance that they play? or will it take some serious convincing to get the boys on the hardwood? but I agree if they do play Jackson will be problem for people. having to play a good Jackson team at home will keep coaches up at night thinking of ways to escape with a win.
I understand the Yates kid is hurt, why if they don't want to play, is it that important to have to beg them to play? Just asking,know very little about Jackson basketball.
I don’t know the answers. If a kid doesn’t want to play it doesn’t affect me at all. I don’t know the Yates family. If Nevan plays he will certainly help. If his injury/doesn’t want to play keeps him from playing I wish him well and an enjoyable last 6 months to his high school years. I know Treylan pretty well. Great kid and have always enjoyed his performances in sports. If he plays it’ll be fun to watch he and his team....if he doesn’t play I imagine he will bulk himself up to a potential D1 caliber football recruit...that would be awesome for him.

Make no mistake though....Jackson is going to be a formidable opponent capable of beating everyone on their schedule. Jackson is taller and longer than normal and are now a team that looks like a basketball team full of basketball players. Jackson should be able to play several different styles this year. Should be a fun season, can’t wait!



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Post by Ironman92 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:23 pm

:) Good news out of Jackson



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Post by pfloyd » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:19 pm

Ironman92 wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:23 pm
:) Good news out of Jackson
I92 !!! wellllllllllllllllllll !!! LOL ... Did I win the Lottery !!!!!!!!! yesssssssssssssss ! free parking for all going to Jackson games for the entire basketball season !!!!! LOL ... but seriously folks ... what IS the good news from the Land of the Ironmen ?


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Post by Ironman92 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:32 pm

pfloyd wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:19 pm
Ironman92 wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:23 pm
:) Good news out of Jackson
I92 !!! wellllllllllllllllllll !!! LOL ... Did I win the Lottery !!!!!!!!! yesssssssssssssss ! free parking for all going to Jackson games for the entire basketball season !!!!! LOL ... but seriously folks ... what IS the good news from the Land of the Ironmen ?
Tell me what game(s) and your parking fee will be covered.



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Post by Pa Trojan » Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:43 am

nice deal!



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Post by OHHS old timer » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:41 pm

Well....at least I wasn't to far off on my picks pfloyd. I really think Waverly will go deep in tourney time.

Good list pfloyd...still kinda think the Oaks will be down this year...tough to replace those horses from last year.


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Post by pfloyd » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:13 pm

OHHS old timer wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:41 pm
Well....at least I wasn't to far off on my picks pfloyd. I really think Waverly will go deep in tourney time.

Good list pfloyd...still kinda think the Oaks will be down this year...tough to replace those horses from last year.
I have the Oaks at #30 in the preseason - much of that is the respect I have for Coach Persin - he will get everything out of the kids on the court ... I totally agree on the fact that you don't replace the "horses" from last years graduating class ... the Oaks will step back this season - they'll slow it down, work on beating teams by "out fundamental-ing" the opposition ... that's what Coach Persin TEAMS do - I always enjoy watching the Oaks play for that very fact - I am a BIG promoter of "fundamentals" at both ends of the floor - TEAMS that are fundamentally sound? I watch them play with a smile on my face win or lose, as it tells me that the coach is doing it right ... you're in a whole lot games being fundamentally sound at both ends, then when you add scorers/some size PLUS those fundamentals - that's when you have a championship caliber TEAM ... Coach Persin will get the Oaks back on top - it may not be this season but in the not too distant future imo - it's what Coach Persin does ! he's a coach and teacher of the game - my kind of coach ...


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Post by Reds Fan » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:59 am

out of everyone in SEO who has the toughest schedule?



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