You’re right. I thought we had played twice up until last season. I’m a year behind. Lol still would like to see a home and home between the two.
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I definitely agree with that.
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I thought that there was a second game, but I couldn't find my record of it. However, the point is, it was Jackson, I can assure you by more than 100%, that it was Jackson, same as with Logan, that discontinued the second game. It was after the 2015-2016 season, that Coach Morrow and Athletic Director, at the time, Bob Kight, discontinued the second game. Therefore, no second game was scheduled from to 2017-2018 and on. As I believe that there is no second game, next season. Like I said earlier, if you are a young coach, trying to build a program, why, at that time, scheduled those games? I know this to be true, because we are all friends with Max, and Bob's son is in his sixth or seventh season of being on our bench. We have had those conversations.Poo Bear wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:15 amYour missing a game in 2016/2017 at Jackson where a young Ironmen squad took the regional champs to the limit maybe losing by 3. They only played 1 time last year so I find it hard to believe they were supposed to play twice this season and Jackson backed out. It’s definitely been a while since Jackson will be favored over VC and will be a huge win for the Ironmen program if they can pull it offhawkeyepierce wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:44 pmThat is absolutely true. I have personally spoken with Coach Morrow, with full disclosure, this was a couple of years ago, at the time when we were making runs at regionals, he stated that the game was not go for them. If you think about it, at the time it wasn't. The last four contest are, with the exception of last year, Vikings' sound victories:
2015-2016 H 66-44 and @ Jackson 72-38
2016-2017 H 90-60
2017-2018 H Jackson 59-56
That is quite a difference, 22 points a game. And at the time, if you are a young coach, trying to build a program, why do you schedule two losses of 20 plus points? However, with the talent he has now, he may be regretting that decision.
Now, moving forward, I would like to see the second game also. However, if the powers that be, or parents, whomever, get rid of Max, then I would not care if we ever play again. Just my opinion. Obviously, that is not up to me.
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Nobody is going to get rid of coach morrow . That is just silly. He’s been coaching here for what 4 years now and has gone from rock bottom to one of the top teams in the area. I’ve been around the program and hear the rumor mill whispers and never have I heard of any secret attempt by parents to out coach. That’s just silly. The best kids will play the most minutes , this isn’t REC league. Jackson wants to make some convo runs like VC has. There may have been some things in the past with parents running coaches off but I haven’t seen it. Jackson has hands down one of the best ADs in the state. Parents Players and Coaches will act accordingly or they won’t be around.hawkeyepierce wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:07 pmI thought that there was a second game, but I couldn't find my record of it. However, the point is, it was Jackson, I can assure you by more than 100%, that it was Jackson, same as with Logan, that discontinued the second game. It was after the 2015-2016 season, that Coach Morrow and Athletic Director, at the time, Bob Kight, discontinued the second game. Therefore, no second game was scheduled from to 2017-2018 and on. As I believe that there is no second game, next season. Like I said earlier, if you are a young coach, trying to build a program, why, at that time, scheduled those games? I know this to be true, because we are all friends with Max, and Bob's son is in his sixth or seventh season of being on our bench. We have had those conversations.Poo Bear wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:15 amYour missing a game in 2016/2017 at Jackson where a young Ironmen squad took the regional champs to the limit maybe losing by 3. They only played 1 time last year so I find it hard to believe they were supposed to play twice this season and Jackson backed out. It’s definitely been a while since Jackson will be favored over VC and will be a huge win for the Ironmen program if they can pull it offhawkeyepierce wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:44 pm
That is absolutely true. I have personally spoken with Coach Morrow, with full disclosure, this was a couple of years ago, at the time when we were making runs at regionals, he stated that the game was not go for them. If you think about it, at the time it wasn't. The last four contest are, with the exception of last year, Vikings' sound victories:
2015-2016 H 66-44 and @ Jackson 72-38
2016-2017 H 90-60
2017-2018 H Jackson 59-56
That is quite a difference, 22 points a game. And at the time, if you are a young coach, trying to build a program, why do you schedule two losses of 20 plus points? However, with the talent he has now, he may be regretting that decision.
Now, moving forward, I would like to see the second game also. However, if the powers that be, or parents, whomever, get rid of Max, then I would not care if we ever play again. Just my opinion. Obviously, that is not up to me.
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“More than 100%”hawkeyepierce wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:07 pmI thought that there was a second game, but I couldn't find my record of it. However, the point is, it was Jackson, I can assure you by more than 100%, that it was Jackson, same as with Logan, that discontinued the second game. It was after the 2015-2016 season, that Coach Morrow and Athletic Director, at the time, Bob Kight, discontinued the second game. Therefore, no second game was scheduled from to 2017-2018 and on. As I believe that there is no second game, next season. Like I said earlier, if you are a young coach, trying to build a program, why, at that time, scheduled those games? I know this to be true, because we are all friends with Max, and Bob's son is in his sixth or seventh season of being on our bench. We have had those conversations.Poo Bear wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:15 amYour missing a game in 2016/2017 at Jackson where a young Ironmen squad took the regional champs to the limit maybe losing by 3. They only played 1 time last year so I find it hard to believe they were supposed to play twice this season and Jackson backed out. It’s definitely been a while since Jackson will be favored over VC and will be a huge win for the Ironmen program if they can pull it offhawkeyepierce wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:44 pm
That is absolutely true. I have personally spoken with Coach Morrow, with full disclosure, this was a couple of years ago, at the time when we were making runs at regionals, he stated that the game was not go for them. If you think about it, at the time it wasn't. The last four contest are, with the exception of last year, Vikings' sound victories:
2015-2016 H 66-44 and @ Jackson 72-38
2016-2017 H 90-60
2017-2018 H Jackson 59-56
That is quite a difference, 22 points a game. And at the time, if you are a young coach, trying to build a program, why do you schedule two losses of 20 plus points? However, with the talent he has now, he may be regretting that decision.
Now, moving forward, I would like to see the second game also. However, if the powers that be, or parents, whomever, get rid of Max, then I would not care if we ever play again. Just my opinion. Obviously, that is not up to me.
Now hawkeye, you aren’t being mathematically honest
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I92, I meant “unequivocally” but I was afraid of getting slam for using my thesaurus again.
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Your vocabulary on here is a bit grandeur for most.hawkeyepierce wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:10 pm I92, I meant “unequivocally” but I was afraid of getting slam for using my thesaurus again.
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... hawk ! you possess all of the necessary - nae - requisite attributes to be a "Napkin Statistician" !!!hawkeyepierce wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:00 am I am inebriated by the exuberance of my own verbosity.
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Until he gives a shooting % of 105%pfloyd wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:02 am... hawk ! you possess all of the necessary - nae - requisite attributes to be a "Napkin Statistician" !!!hawkeyepierce wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:00 am I am inebriated by the exuberance of my own verbosity.
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^Ironman92 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:58 amUntil he gives a shooting % of 105%pfloyd wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:02 am... hawk ! you possess all of the necessary - nae - requisite attributes to be a "Napkin Statistician" !!!hawkeyepierce wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:00 am I am inebriated by the exuberance of my own verbosity.
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Be a good year for Jackson if the can get all the boys from Vc, Wellston and Jackson to play as a team---still say there will be trouble with the parents when it all goes down this year--hope not for the boys--but some things never change.
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you Said “hope not for the boys” But I’m sensing from your post that you would love more than anything to see them implode. I could be wrong I guess
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Yeah, he wants us to go winless and everyone knows it. Jackson has 1 transfer from Vinton Co that will be in our top 7 main rotation.
His “Wellston” kid has truly played basketball in Jackson every year since kindergarten. Also not a varsity rotation player but he’s from VC so he already knows that of course.
He needs to stay off of here with his pretend hope for Jackson and his made up parent troubles....which is ironic considering he doesn’t seem to approve of how Combs utilized his son.
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I wonder what place he’ll be unhappy with next?Ironman92 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:47 amYeah, he wants us to go winless and everyone knows it. Jackson has 1 transfer from Vinton Co that will be in our top 7 main rotation.
His “Wellston” kid has truly played basketball in Jackson every year since kindergarten. Also not a varsity rotation player but he’s from VC so he already knows that of course.
He needs to stay off of here with his pretend hope for Jackson and his made up parent troubles....which is ironic considering he doesn’t seem to approve of how Combs utilized his son.
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Time will tell--the parents are ALWAYS right!! You will see. And I don't have any kids playing or never had. Just from what I have watched over the years--Jackson is not the only place where the parents become the problem. Let the kids be kids........ I just hate to see parents move their kids from school to school hoping for a better result---that's all.
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No one moved for better basketball.vcgrad wrote: ↑Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:30 am Time will tell--the parents are ALWAYS right!! You will see. And I don't have any kids playing or never had. Just from what I have watched over the years--Jackson is not the only place where the parents become the problem. Let the kids be kids........ I just hate to see parents move their kids from school to school hoping for a better result---that's all.
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You know that there are three types of people in the world...statisticians, darn statisticians, and liars.
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... now there are 4 types of people in the world hawkeye ! "NAPKIN STAT-isticians" !
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Starting five as of Now is Caleb Wallis, Cooper Donaldson, Caden Donaldson, Nevan Yates, and Treylan Davis i believe.hawkeyepierce wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:46 pm Come on I92. You are not being intellectually honest. They ran out a perfectly good coach in Heath McKinniss, and they have taken their swings at Max Morrow. Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of Max Morrow, I think he does a great job, but, if he hangs his hat on Yates, Bragg, and Spires, and they play more that what is perceptively allowed, that contingent of parents and meddling will get more tenacious. I too, have been watching this area's high school basketball for the past 39 years. Some things never change.