Division 2 Tournament Southeastern

[beaverlover]

Friday 2/22 6:00
Waverly v Greenfield

Friday 2/22 8:30
Unioto v Washington

Too bad this is a split session!!

Waverly and Greenfield tied for the 4th seed and Greenfield won the tiebreaker.

Not that it matters cause they play each other regardless but what was the tiebreaker?

Was wondering the same thing.

[LucasDavenport]

Tiebreaker is how the other 8 coaches placed them.

5 had McClain over Waverly
3 had Waverly over McClain.

They both beat Jackson at home.

McClain had wins over ZT and Adena

Waverly had wins over Athens and OH.

[Tri-StateYouthSports]

Your Right svac83 The Blue Devils are 12 and 8 and lost 3 games by 2 points another in double overtime and are a 7 seed and Unioto gets the six seed at 9 and 10 you have got to be kidding me, but it is what it is and you have to play somebody so we play River Valley and if we win then Jackson who I think we match up very well with and if we play our A game we can beat them! We played Fairland on their home court who beat Jackson and if it hadn't been for that last second luck shot from three quarter court the Blue Devils could have won that game. So let toss the ball up and lets see what we can do!

That 3/4 court shot was at the end of the 2nd qtr.

[SEOAL74]

So blue devils at 12-8 get the 7th seed. Interesting. Sounds to me like teams 3-6 didn’t want blue devils in first round. Seems like Zane trace might of known blue devils were going to get a low seed . Since they showed up in point pleasant to scout them last night.

Blue devils just need to take care of business and get to the Saturday game against Jackson. Jackson has had our number lately. But it is what it is now. Time to just play.

Your Right svac83 The Blue Devils are 12 and 8 and lost 3 games by 2 points another in double overtime and are a 7 seed and Unioto gets the six seed at 9 and 11 you have got to be kidding me, but it is what it is and you have to play somebody so we play River Valley and if we win then Jackson who I think we match up very well with and if we play our A game we can beat them! We played Fairland on their home court who beat Jackson and if it hadn't been for that last second luck shot from three quarter court the Blue Devils could have won that game. So let toss the ball up and lets see what we can do!

[SEOAL74]

Your Right svac83 The Blue Devils are 12 and 8 and lost 3 games by 2 points another in double overtime and are a 7 seed and Unioto gets the six seed at 9 and 10 you have got to be kidding me, but it is what it is and you have to play somebody so we play River Valley and if we win then Jackson who I think we match up very well with and if we play our A game we can beat them! We played Fairland on their home court who beat Jackson and if it hadn't been for that last second luck shot from three quarter court the Blue Devils could have won that game. So let toss the ball up and lets see what we can do!

That 3/4 court shot was at the end of the 2nd qtr. We know the shot was at the end of second Quarter, but it ended up being a game winner because Gallia cut the lead to 1 point with 1;43 left in game if the kid don't luck that shot in from 3 Quarters of the court Gallia could have been up 2 points and wouldn't had to foul Fairland trying to get the ball back and would had a good chance winning that game. Read the Herald Dispatch it said the same thing I'm telling you read yourself!

[SEOAL74]

Your Right svac83 The Blue Devils are 12 and 8 and lost 3 games by 2 points another in double overtime and are a 7 seed and Unioto gets the six seed at 9 and 10 you have got to be kidding me, but it is what it is and you have to play somebody so we play River Valley and if we win then Jackson who I think we match up very well with and if we play our A game we can beat them! We played Fairland on their home court who beat Jackson and if it hadn't been for that last second luck shot from three quarter court the Blue Devils could have won that game. So let toss the ball up and lets see what we can do!

That 3/4 court shot was at the end of the 2nd qtr. We know the shot was at the end of second Quarter, but it ended up being a game winner because Gallia cut the lead to 1 point with 1;43 left in game if the kid don't luck that shot in from 3 Quarters of the court Gallia could have been up 2 points and wouldn't had to foul Fairland trying to get the ball back and would had a good chance winning that game. Read the Herald Dispatch it said the same thing I'm telling you read it for yourself!

[Ironman92]

Gallia voted Jackson lower than any other team in the sectional and put themselves against them. They must want to play Jackson.

I hope they get the film from Fairland

[HamPorter]

That 3/4 court shot was at the end of the 2nd qtr. We know the shot was at the end of second Quarter, but it ended up being a game winner because Gallia cut the lead to 1 point with 1;43 left in game if the kid don't luck that shot in from 3 Quarters of the court Gallia could have been up 2 points and wouldn't had to foul Fairland trying to get the ball back and would had a good chance winning that game. Read the Herald Dispatch it said the same thing I'm telling you read it for yourself!

Ya know, it’s possible that Unioto might have lost games due to weird things too. It happens. And you never know how a game would play out if something happens or doesn’t happen.

Gallia probably should have been the 6, but maybe Gallia can beat the 4th best team in the sectional according to their voting to get out.

[danicalifornia]

Gallia voted Jackson lower than any other team in the sectional and put themselves against them. They must want to play Jackson.

I hope they get the film from Fairland

I came here to post that lol

[Ironman92]

Was the voting 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1?

If so 2 coaches didn’t vote according to the results I saw...unless the highest and lowest votes for each team were not counted.

[danicalifornia]

Was the voting 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1?

If so 2 coaches didn’t vote according to the results I saw...unless the highest and lowest votes for each team were not counted.

Yes. Highest and lowest were taken out. Obviously, if there were multiples of one, it was only one vote removed for each score.

[SEOAL74]

Gallia voted Jackson lower than any other team in the sectional and put themselves against them. They must want to play Jackson.

I hope they get the film from Fairland

I came here to post that lol

I know for a fact Gallia wanted the 6 seed and was counting on playing Washington Courthouse!

[svac83]

I don’t know who Harrison wanted to play but I would of not chose court house.

As far as the fairland game that garbage about the half court shot costing them the game is ridiculous and not true. We cut the lead to 28-27 with like 1:15 left to go in 4th you had it to one posssesion you had forced turnovers no matter the defense all night.

We got over aggressive on press and they went over the top for a easy bucket. Down 30-27 with ball over a minute left we waste 20 seconds of clock and threw a unforced turnover out of bounce. That is what put you into the hole and lost the game. The other is a excuse Whiney people make in my opinion.

Gallia needs to keep improving on the changes it made at fairland. That is a winning formula for them. That game plan gives them there best shot.

[LucasDavenport]

Gallia voted Jackson lower than any other team in the sectional and put themselves against them. They must want to play Jackson.

I hope they get the film from Fairland

I came here to post that lol

I know for a fact Gallia wanted the 6 seed and was counting on playing Washington Courthouse!

I understand. At 3:00 or so on Friday I was prepared to drive to Gallia to scout. My orders changed and I went to Unioto at Adena.

After January 1 Gallia:

Wins
Coal Grove
Point Pleasant
South Point
Portsmouth
Chesapeake
Rock Hill
River Valley
Point Pleasant
Portsmouth

Losses
Fairland
Ironton
Warren
Coal Grove
Fairland

I think the coaches looked at this and said ?????

Best win was the first game vs D4 Coal Grove. They defeated you recently. The only other 2 wins that have any worth are South Point and Chesapeake. They aren’t seeded highly in the D3 brackets.

Unioto defeated Fairfield Union. 2 seed at Logan
Unioto defeated Greenfield McClain. 4 seed at Southeastern.

We just beat Unioto 47-42 on Tuesday in an absolute battle. It’s no favor to us to play Unioto in a Sectional Final. But I think the coaches seeded Unioto and Gallipolis correctly.

I understand if you disagree.

[SEOAL74]

I came here to post that lol

I know for a fact Gallia wanted the 6 seed and was counting on playing Washington Courthouse!

I understand. At 3:00 or so on Friday I was prepared to drive to Gallia to scout. My orders changed and I went to Unioto at Adena.

After January 1 Gallia:

Wins
Coal Grove
Point Pleasant
South Point
Portsmouth
Chesapeake
Rock Hill
River Valley
Point Pleasant
Portsmouth

Losses
Fairland
Ironton
Warren
Coal Grove
Fairland

I think the coaches looked at this and said ?????

Best win was the first game vs D4 Coal Grove. They defeated you recently. The only other 2 wins that have any worth are South Point and Chesapeake. They aren’t seeded highly in the D3 brackets.

Unioto defeated Fairfield Union. 2 seed at Logan
Unioto defeated Greenfield McClain. 4 seed at Southeastern.

We just beat Unioto 47-42 on Tuesday in an absolute battle. It’s no favor to us to play Unioto in a Sectional Final. But I think the coaches seeded Unioto and Gallipolis correctly.

I understand if you disagree.

You can look at Unioto schedule they got beat by Piketon by 5 points and Chesapeake beat Piketon and Gallia Academy beat Chesapeake 68 to 57 and Gallia Beat Athens at Athens Unioto beat Fairfield Union also in Dec as Gallia did Athens. It's is what it's and People will find out this Gallia Academy team is a dangerous team. We played Warren @ Gallia Academy it was a 3 point game with 1;03 left in 3rd quarter we had the ball a chance to tie the game or cut the lead to a single point when the ref call terrible offense foul on Call that resulted in two techinals that foul Call out of game gave Warren 4 foul shots and the ball lead went from 3 to 10 in that spurted. I talked to Warren coach after the game and he said that play change to whole complexion of the game plus Warren didn't play that Friday they were there scouting while Gallia have a hard fought battle with Ironton that went to double ot and if Gallia makes their free throws at the end of regulation and in first ot they win game it open the door for Ironton both times and cost them the game.

[svac83]

I don’t have a problem with them being 7th seed on the fact the only good team they got job done against is Athens all year. I totally get it.

But we also have no loses on that schedule that you look at and say man that is a bad loss.

If you look back about a month ago or so I was first to say Gallia may be 7th seed and everyone called me crazy.

I guess my biggest surprise out of this is last year we were 16-6. This year we are going to finish 14-8. This years schedule much more challenging then last year. Quality wins about same and last year a few bad loses.

Maybe the sectional that much tougher I don’t know. I was just surprised because everyone was saying no way they will be the 7th seed.

[LucasDavenport]

All those details don’t get noticed by coaches.

I simply tried to give some reasoning behind the 7 seed.

Coaches look at who you beat — they don’t look at losses near as much. They just don’t.

I used your schedule after January 1 because you had a change which affected how your team was viewed and performed.

Washington can relate and empathize as we lost 21 points a night after the Adena game plus 2 who definitely would have helped off the bench.

The coaches this year — I think across all divisions — looked at more than win-loss record. People have been complaining for years that strength of schedule should matter and they moved in that direction this year and it’s not surprising that people from communities and schools who had better records aren’t happy.

Zach Fleer of 270hoops.com comprised a ratings system to help with the seeding of the huge central district.

He gave teams a rating and then bonus points for Good Wins and then took away points for bad losses.

He gave nothing or no merit for losses to teams equal or better than you. Losing to those teams don’t prove anything other than you lose to quality teams.

And to be totally honest I think it’s Strength of Wins not strength of schedule.

Fair or not that’s what measures teams for the most part — strength of wins.

[LucasDavenport]

And I didn’t think you would be a 7 either.

It was in Jackson’s best interests that you were the 6 and Unioto the 7

It was in Washington’s best interests that you were the 6 and Unioto the 7.

Coaches don’t vote against their best interests very often.

[SEOAL74]

All those details don’t get noticed by coaches.

I simply tried to give some reasoning behind the 7 seed.

Coaches look at who you beat — they don’t look at losses near as much. They just don’t.

I used your schedule after January 1 because you had a change which affected how your team was viewed and performed.

Washington can relate and empathize as we lost 21 points a night after the Adena game plus 2 who definitely would have helped off the bench.

The coaches this year — I think across all divisions — looked at more than win-loss record. People have been complaining for years that strength of schedule should matter and they moved in that direction this year and it’s not surprising that people from communities and schools who had better records aren’t happy.

Zach Fleer of 270hoops.com comprised a ratings system to help with the seeding of the huge central district.

He gave teams a rating and then bonus points for Good Wins and then took away points for bad losses.

He gave nothing or no merit for losses to teams equal or better than you. Losing to those teams don’t prove anything other than you lose to quality teams.

And to be totally honest I think it’s Strength of Wins not strength of schedule.

Fair or not that’s what measures teams for the most part — strength of wins.

Don't take me wrong were ok with the 7 seed and I believe we can advance thru the 7 seed but a team that's is 9 and 11 is the 6 seed I wish we would have played them. Ironton from our league Plays Zane Trace tomorrow we will see how strong our league is after that game.

[Ironman92]

All those details don’t get noticed by coaches.

I simply tried to give some reasoning behind the 7 seed.

Coaches look at who you beat — they don’t look at losses near as much. They just don’t.

I used your schedule after January 1 because you had a change which affected how your team was viewed and performed.

Washington can relate and empathize as we lost 21 points a night after the Adena game plus 2 who definitely would have helped off the bench.

The coaches this year — I think across all divisions — looked at more than win-loss record. People have been complaining for years that strength of schedule should matter and they moved in that direction this year and it’s not surprising that people from communities and schools who had better records aren’t happy.

Zach Fleer of 270hoops.com comprised a ratings system to help with the seeding of the huge central district.

He gave teams a rating and then bonus points for Good Wins and then took away points for bad losses.

He gave nothing or no merit for losses to teams equal or better than you. Losing to those teams don’t prove anything other than you lose to quality teams.

And to be totally honest I think it’s Strength of Wins not strength of schedule.

Fair or not that’s what measures teams for the most part — strength of wins.

Don't take me wrong were ok with the 7 seed and I believe we can advance thru the 7 seed but a team that's is 9 and 11 is the 6 seed I wish we would have played them. Ironton from our league Plays Zane Trace tomorrow we will see how strong our league is after that game.

It’s at Ironton so I’d expect an excellent game.