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bbjunky81 wrote: Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:13 am
Smokyhollowbandit wrote: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:21 pm
ItsMyOpinion wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:38 pm I believe Wheelersburg is a Final Four Team. I’ve seen Harvest Prep on tape and Wheelersburg can beat them. I don’t think any southern Ohio team has a chance to beat Burg. They are just too talented. The kid from South Webster puts them over the top.
Piketon can beat Burg, about did it last year
They lost 66-50. I was at this game, and it was never in question. Burg was hands down the better team. They're even better this year and Piketon isn't as good. Burg would win this game by 30+.
This was a close game through three qtrs last year but I agree. Piketon isn’t as good as they were last year and burg much better. This would probably be a blowout but we will never know for sure


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If Portsmouth can play at Waverly like they did last night at South Point (a 57-56 loss), they could upset a higher seed. The Trojans are probably looking at an #8, #9, or #10 seed. South Point is the only team to beat Fairland in the OVC.


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Some of you live in your own little world. I get that. Do you understand Garaway lost to harvest prep in OT last years D-3 regionals finals and Meadowbrook won D-2 regionals in SE. The kool aid taste good but major battles will happen at the Convo in D-3.


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We would think burg runs away but not so fast fairyland will battle. Still would not bet against burg. Beaver also will play some d. it’s all about the matchups!


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Oak Hill is not as good as their record might indicate. No bench and only a couple scoring options.


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Boys Div III
2019 TSYS's DRAFT Sectional/District Composite Bracket
Based on pfloyd's current rankings
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Thank you Tri-State, that's very interesting to look at.

I don't see any "glaring" problems, but I would think Alexander ends up higher seeded than Fairland. Not saying they are better, but they'll have a better record at the draw and sometimes that matters to coaches who vote.

That would be a very favorable draw for Portsmouth.

Fairland vs. Peake sectional final would be a battle!

Oak Hill vs. Eastern Round 2 in the sectional final would be fun!

Wheelersburg would be ecstatic if the draw ends up like that.


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That pod with sectional finals of Eastern Pike vs Oak Hill and Western vs Piketon would be fire.

A possible 4th matchup between Eastern and Western at a 3rd different venue would be really fun.

Piketon is playing better and has the guard play to be a tough out for anybody.


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If the draw were today, I believe Fairland could argue the second seed. They are playing about as well as anyone right now.


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EHigh: I already mentioned Garaway as a threat to win the regional earlier in this thread. They played Harvest Prep last year much tougher than did Wheelersburg, and it looks like the Pirates (Garaway's nickname) are a good bet to at least make the Sweet 16 again. I do think Fairland is a team to watch simply because of their style of play. If anybody falls behind early, the Dragons have shown time and again they know how to eat clock......and tournament games tend to be lower scoring anyway.

Wheelersburg is really good, but anybody can have a cold shooting night, and the Burg has relied heavily on perimeter shooting......other than Tanner Holden, they don't beat their opponents a lot off the dribble. A quick team that can defend the perimeter could give WHS trouble. By the way, I've seen Wheelersburg twice this year, against Ironton and Portsmouth. Ironton allowed the Pirates to hit 11 three pointers, while the Burg pulled away from the Trojans in the 2nd half with perimeter shooting. Holden had 26 points vs. PHS, but in the tournament, opposing coaches will try to minimize Holden's ability to get points in the paint (easier said than done) and get Wheelersburg to rely more on its perimeter game, which could be unpredictable given the history of the Convo.

I've also seen Oak Hill and Eastern, and I think of the two, Eastern would be a tougher matchup because of Evan Leist. His quickness and excellent ballhandling which sets up his teammates for shots will give any opposing team trouble. Miller is a legitimate tough matchup for anybody's else's big. Oak Hill has Darby and Hammond, but are not as strong at guard.

I still think Ironton is very capable of pulling off an upset of a higher seed. The Fighting Tigers lost to Wheelersburg by 8, Fairland by 2,and Coal Grove by 3 in 3OT. Nobody blows Ironton out. They will hang with anyone by the 4th quarter.

I haven't seen Alexander, so the only comment I can make on them is that they appear to be much better than last year's squad, they play a good schedule, and have the size with the Terry kid.

As far as the Waverly sectional, I don't see anyone that could advance to the regional, but upsets happen. Western, North Adams, Adena, and Eastern Brown are probably the top 4, but to beat one of the Jackson teams will take a really good game by them. Could happen, but not likely. I do like the way Coach Buechler gets the most out of his EB Warriors. Another team that always seems to hang around with a chance to win in the 4th quarter.

Wheelersburg is my pick to win their 20th district title, while it could come down to Ironton vs. Eastern Pike if the brackets play out like above.


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Tri-StateYouthSports wrote: Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:56 pm Boys Div III
2019 TSYS's DRAFT Sectional/District Composite Bracket
Based on pfloyd's current rankings
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Adena with the 1 seed. I like it!


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Let’s not forget about Meadowbrook in this years D-3 regionals. They won the D-2 regionals last year and are playing really well right now. Garaway is not a lock to the regionals. Should be fun !


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trojandave wrote: Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:10 pm EHigh: I already mentioned Garaway as a threat to win the regional earlier in this thread. They played Harvest Prep last year much tougher than did Wheelersburg, and it looks like the Pirates (Garaway's nickname) are a good bet to at least make the Sweet 16 again. I do think Fairland is a team to watch simply because of their style of play. If anybody falls behind early, the Dragons have shown time and again they know how to eat clock......and tournament games tend to be lower scoring anyway.

Wheelersburg is really good, but anybody can have a cold shooting night, and the Burg has relied heavily on perimeter shooting......other than Tanner Holden, they don't beat their opponents a lot off the dribble. A quick team that can defend the perimeter could give WHS trouble. By the way, I've seen Wheelersburg twice this year, against Ironton and Portsmouth. Ironton allowed the Pirates to hit 11 three pointers, while the Burg pulled away from the Trojans in the 2nd half with perimeter shooting. Holden had 26 points vs. PHS, but in the tournament, opposing coaches will try to minimize Holden's ability to get points in the paint (easier said than done) and get Wheelersburg to rely more on its perimeter game, which could be unpredictable given the history of the Convo.

I've also seen Oak Hill and Eastern, and I think of the two, Eastern would be a tougher matchup because of Evan Leist. His quickness and excellent ballhandling which sets up his teammates for shots will give any opposing team trouble. Miller is a legitimate tough matchup for anybody's else's big. Oak Hill has Darby and Hammond, but are not as strong at guard.

I still think Ironton is very capable of pulling off an upset of a higher seed. The Fighting Tigers lost to Wheelersburg by 8, Fairland by 2,and Coal Grove by 3 in 3OT. Nobody blows Ironton out. They will hang with anyone by the 4th quarter.

I haven't seen Alexander, so the only comment I can make on them is that they appear to be much better than last year's squad, they play a good schedule, and have the size with the Terry kid.

As far as the Waverly sectional, I don't see anyone that could advance to the regional, but upsets happen. Western, North Adams, Adena, and Eastern Brown are probably the top 4, but to beat one of the Jackson teams will take a really good game by them. Could happen, but not likely. I do like the way Coach Buechler gets the most out of his EB Warriors. Another team that always seems to hang around with a chance to win in the 4th quarter.

Wheelersburg is my pick to win their 20th district title, while it could come down to Ironton vs. Eastern Pike if the brackets play out like above.
Trojan Dave, I ALWAYS respect your posts, I love the post but I do disagree with one part. Why are we so quick to declare Eastern Pike a winner in the district semis IF (yes I know they have the get there first) Western gets the three and meets them there. In the last two games played between the two teams it has literally came down to the last shot. Western missing one, and Eastern making one. Again both times have to get there. BUT I would not be surprised if the Eagles get knocked off on that bigger floor.


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This year’s Division III tournament might be one of the best tournaments in recent years. There are going to be some GREAT matchup in the Sectionals. Even thou the Jackson Sectional has the better teams I expect some great games at Waverly. Waverly’s 4/5 game could be a matchup as well as their 3/6 matchup.

I agree with the poster above. Western is a very talented team. I believe they should win their Sectional. As far as a rematch with Eastern, I’m not sure that favors Western. I was one of thd guys that thought Western would beat Eastern in the 3rd matchup but I was wrong. After 3 loses to Eastern, you have to believe Eastern is the better team. I was not at the last game but a Pike Co. buddy who was at the game said if Eastern would have made their FT when they had a 7 point lead late in the game it wouldn’t have taken a last second shot. But a 4th game at tournament time anything can happen.


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Have Eastern and Western ever played 4 times in a season before?


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You all are looking WAY over an Adena team that is getting better and better. It would not surprise me AT ALL to see them get to the regionals if the above bracket plays out


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Western24: I have nothing against Western personally.......they beat my Trojans fair and square. I have seen the Eagles play, and I just think that they are the better team, not by much, but as ItsMyOpinion stated, the Indians have lost to Eastern 3 times. What I said above is just a prediction, and I have been wrong more times than I can count.

Rosscoresident: Adena could very well end up in the regional, but a matchup with Ironton in the district would be a tough one for the Warriors. I have seen the Fighting Tigers multiple times, and they have as good a PG as there is in the SE district in Ethan Wilson. Charlie Large can go off for 20+ on any given night, and Reid Carrico is a load to handle in the paint with his 6-3, 215 lb. frame. To date, nobody has blown Ironton out.....they will be a tough out for anyone in the district.


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I agree TrojanDave that Ironton could very well be a very tough matchup for Adena. I’m not predicting at all that Adena WILL go to the regionals, but I also wouldn’t be at all surprised if they do (unless they somehow draw Wheelersburg in District). Adena is MUCH better right now than earlier in the season imo


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I think these teams are hard to compare and many different teams really have a chance for a good tournament run.

I haven’t the foggiest idea if Ironton is better ham Adena/Western/Alexander


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Jackson Sectional teams and records according to pfloyd's page. Drawing is this Sunday, February 10th.

Wheelersburg 18-0
Eastern Pike 17-1
Fairland 14-4
Oak Hill 12-4
Alexander 12-4
Ironton 12-5
Chesapeake 12-6
Meigs 10-8
Belpre 8-9
Nelsonville York 7-10
South Point 6-10
Minford 6-11
Crooksville 5-12
Wellston 3-13
Rock Hill 3-14


I think the seedings will end up basically exactly like you see above.




Waverly Sectional updates records according to pfloyd's page. Drawing is this Sunday, February 10th.

Western 14-4
Adena 14-4
North Adams 14-4
Eastern Brown 13-4
Piketon 11-8
West Union 9-9
Paint Valley 8-9
Portsmouth West 6-11
Portsmouth 6-12
Valley 5-12
Huntington Ross 5-12
Southeastern 3-16
Lynchburg Clay 2-16
Northwest 1-16


I also think that order would be fair.


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