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Good list!! I have:
I figured some of that but 16% is big and 38% is too low unless he’s only shooting 3’s. I watched him have to run the point vs Waverly’s pressure and that tough on the big guard. Warren clearly did the same. He’s doing what his team needs even though it’s not his position. That puts him close but still behind Maxfield.VisionQuest wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:03 pmGood list!! I have:
1)Baer
2) Maxfield/Chubb
3)Kearns
4)Arbaugh
5)Mecum
Just to give some insight Ironman regarding FG% As far as Maxfield and Chubb goes from what I have witnessed it goes like this for every 10 shots-Maxfield 8 of 10 shots dribble drive for lay-ups or fast break lay-ups the other 2 shots 3 point attempts. Chubb I would say 5 of 10 shots mid-range jumpers 3 3 point attempts and 2 dribble drives. I know points are points but that would explain the difference. Not taking anything away from Maxfield cause that boy can sure finish at the rim and sometimes with Circus like moves.
I have Maxfield and Chubb tied because I need to see more. I also like the 1.5 blocks a game Chubb gets. I have to think that makes opponents leery of driving in there against him. Maxfield gets the most minutes but the 6’4” Chubb becomes the PG when Williams is out.
All good points!!! I should have also put Seele from NY as my 7th player who should be on that list. These players are the ones really standing out to me in the TVC at mid/point.Ironman92 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:29 pmI figured some of that but 16% is big and 38% is too low unless he’s only shooting 3’s. I watched him have to run the point vs Waverly’s pressure and that tough on the big guard. Warren clearly did the same. He’s doing what his team needs even though it’s not his position. That puts him close but still behind Maxfield.VisionQuest wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:03 pmGood list!! I have:
1)Baer
2) Maxfield/Chubb
3)Kearns
4)Arbaugh
5)Mecum
Just to give some insight Ironman regarding FG% As far as Maxfield and Chubb goes from what I have witnessed it goes like this for every 10 shots-Maxfield 8 of 10 shots dribble drive for lay-ups or fast break lay-ups the other 2 shots 3 point attempts. Chubb I would say 5 of 10 shots mid-range jumpers 3 3 point attempts and 2 dribble drives. I know points are points but that would explain the difference. Not taking anything away from Maxfield cause that boy can sure finish at the rim and sometimes with Circus like moves.
I have Maxfield and Chubb tied because I need to see more. I also like the 1.5 blocks a game Chubb gets. I have to think that makes opponents leery of driving in there against him. Maxfield gets the most minutes but the 6’4” Chubb becomes the PG when Williams is out.
If Baer can lead Meigs to a 2nd place finish over Alex and VC and Maxfield is still at 11 ppg...I will likely switch. Have to play it out.
You very well could be right. It probably all depends on how high in the league that Meigs is able to finish.Raider6309 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:02 am Maxfield. I could almost guarantee Maxfield wins POTY. Baer will win it next year.
Can I ask your thought process on why there can’t be a discussion?SportsRule wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:05 pm These topics are not good for the players to be reading.
Great feedback Vision some things I didn’t consider. Appreciate the additional insight. Anyone have stats on Turnovers, steals and all the other things like 3 point percentage for the Athens team would be an interesting stat. I can’t imagine it would be too high for any of the team except maybe Markins and Butcher? Anyone know Free throw percentages? Those would all be key factors too in a tight race.VisionQuest wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:03 pmGood list!! I have:
1)Baer
2) Maxfield/Chubb
3)Kearns
4)Arbaugh
5)Mecum
Just to give some insight Ironman regarding FG% As far as Maxfield and Chubb goes from what I have witnessed it goes like this for every 10 shots-Maxfield 8 of 10 shots dribble drive for lay-ups or fast break lay-ups the other 2 shots 3 point attempts. Chubb I would say 5 of 10 shots mid-range jumpers 3 3 point attempts and 2 dribble drives. I know points are points but that would explain the difference. Not taking anything away from Maxfield cause that boy can sure finish at the rim and sometimes with Circus like moves.
I have Maxfield and Chubb tied because I need to see more. I also like the 1.5 blocks a game Chubb gets. I have to think that makes opponents leery of driving in there against him. Maxfield gets the most minutes but the 6’4” Chubb becomes the PG when Williams is out.
They were listed on the old thread, that’s where I got the FG% fromAllthewayup11 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:49 pmGreat feedback Vision some things I didn’t consider. Appreciate the additional insight. Anyone have stats on Turnovers, steals and all the other things like 3 point percentage for the Athens team would be an interesting stat. I can’t imagine it would be too high for any of the team except maybe Markins and Butcher? Anyone know Free throw percentages? Those would all be key factors too in the tight race as well.VisionQuest wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:03 pmGood list!! I have:
1)Baer
2) Maxfield/Chubb
3)Kearns
4)Arbaugh
5)Mecum
Just to give some insight Ironman regarding FG% As far as Maxfield and Chubb goes from what I have witnessed it goes like this for every 10 shots-Maxfield 8 of 10 shots dribble drive for lay-ups or fast break lay-ups the other 2 shots 3 point attempts. Chubb I would say 5 of 10 shots mid-range jumpers 3 3 point attempts and 2 dribble drives. I know points are points but that would explain the difference. Not taking anything away from Maxfield cause that boy can sure finish at the rim and sometimes with Circus like moves.
I have Maxfield and Chubb tied because I need to see more. I also like the 1.5 blocks a game Chubb gets. I have to think that makes opponents leery of driving in there against him. Maxfield gets the most minutes but the 6’4” Chubb becomes the PG when Williams is out.
Also I think Seale should be in top 5. He has been an unexpected surprise mixed in with the usual suspects Baer and Kearns.
Eek! Steals? Charges (i consider those steals) even though they don’t count that way in a score book. Hasn’t been as many this year. Only as a foul for the other team right? Lol. Think there has been a few taking charges this year between Maxfield, Markins and i think maybe Williams and Butcher?Ironman92 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:58 pmThey were listed on the old thread, that’s where I got the FG% fromAllthewayup11 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:49 pmGreat feedback Vision some things I didn’t consider. Appreciate the additional insight. Anyone have stats on Turnovers, steals and all the other things like 3 point percentage for the Athens team would be an interesting stat. I can’t imagine it would be too high for any of the team except maybe Markins and Butcher? Anyone know Free throw percentages? Those would all be key factors too in the tight race as well.VisionQuest wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:03 pm
Good list!! I have:
1)Baer
2) Maxfield/Chubb
3)Kearns
4)Arbaugh
5)Mecum
Just to give some insight Ironman regarding FG% As far as Maxfield and Chubb goes from what I have witnessed it goes like this for every 10 shots-Maxfield 8 of 10 shots dribble drive for lay-ups or fast break lay-ups the other 2 shots 3 point attempts. Chubb I would say 5 of 10 shots mid-range jumpers 3 3 point attempts and 2 dribble drives. I know points are points but that would explain the difference. Not taking anything away from Maxfield cause that boy can sure finish at the rim and sometimes with Circus like moves.
I have Maxfield and Chubb tied because I need to see more. I also like the 1.5 blocks a game Chubb gets. I have to think that makes opponents leery of driving in there against him. Maxfield gets the most minutes but the 6’4” Chubb becomes the PG when Williams is out.
Also I think Seale should be in top 5. He has been an unexpected surprise mixed in with the usual suspects Baer and Kearns.
Free throw %’s were bad (Maxfield 62%, Chubb 50% I think) 3 pt % wasn’t good.
The stats I viewed...nothing great jumped out. The 16% gap in FG % between Maxfield and Chubb I thought was a bit too big but know Chubb shoots more difficult shots and also has to play out of position a bit.Allthewayup11 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:37 pmEek! Steals? Charges (i consider those steals) even though they don’t count that way in a score book. Hasn’t been as many this year. Only as a foul for the other team right? Lol. Think there has been a few taking charges this year between Maxfield, Markins and i think maybe Williams and Butcher?Ironman92 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:58 pmThey were listed on the old thread, that’s where I got the FG% fromAllthewayup11 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:49 pm
Great feedback Vision some things I didn’t consider. Appreciate the additional insight. Anyone have stats on Turnovers, steals and all the other things like 3 point percentage for the Athens team would be an interesting stat. I can’t imagine it would be too high for any of the team except maybe Markins and Butcher? Anyone know Free throw percentages? Those would all be key factors too in the tight race as well.
Also I think Seale should be in top 5. He has been an unexpected surprise mixed in with the usual suspects Baer and Kearns.
Free throw %’s were bad (Maxfield 62%, Chubb 50% I think) 3 pt % wasn’t good.
Makes senseIronman92 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:00 pmThe stats I viewed...nothing great jumped out. The 16% gap in FG % between Maxfield and Chubb I thought was a bit too big but know Chubb shoots more difficult shots and also has to play out of position a bit.Allthewayup11 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:37 pmEek! Steals? Charges (i consider those steals) even though they don’t count that way in a score book. Hasn’t been as many this year. Only as a foul for the other team right? Lol. Think there has been a few taking charges this year between Maxfield, Markins and i think maybe Williams and Butcher?
Defense is tough to judge in a zone. A lot of factors in all of this.
A charge is counted has a turnoverAllthewayup11 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:37 pmEek! Steals? Charges (i consider those steals) even though they don’t count that way in a score book. Hasn’t been as many this year. Only as a foul for the other team right? Lol. Think there has been a few taking charges this year between Maxfield, Markins and i think maybe Williams and Butcher?Ironman92 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:58 pmThey were listed on the old thread, that’s where I got the FG% fromAllthewayup11 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:49 pm
Great feedback Vision some things I didn’t consider. Appreciate the additional insight. Anyone have stats on Turnovers, steals and all the other things like 3 point percentage for the Athens team would be an interesting stat. I can’t imagine it would be too high for any of the team except maybe Markins and Butcher? Anyone know Free throw percentages? Those would all be key factors too in the tight race as well.
Also I think Seale should be in top 5. He has been an unexpected surprise mixed in with the usual suspects Baer and Kearns.
Free throw %’s were bad (Maxfield 62%, Chubb 50% I think) 3 pt % wasn’t good.
So it counts as a turnover and a offensive foul?itsme wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:00 pmA charge is counted has a turnoverAllthewayup11 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:37 pmEek! Steals? Charges (i consider those steals) even though they don’t count that way in a score book. Hasn’t been as many this year. Only as a foul for the other team right? Lol. Think there has been a few taking charges this year between Maxfield, Markins and i think maybe Williams and Butcher?
Yeah, it’s a foul and you lose possessionAllthewayup11 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:44 pmSo it counts as a turnover and a offensive foul?itsme wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:00 pmA charge is counted has a turnoverAllthewayup11 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:37 pm
Eek! Steals? Charges (i consider those steals) even though they don’t count that way in a score book. Hasn’t been as many this year. Only as a foul for the other team right? Lol. Think there has been a few taking charges this year between Maxfield, Markins and i think maybe Williams and Butcher?