2019 Southeast District -- Official Seeding/Brackets (Div II, III & IV) Updates and Scores Thread

[wobycat]

I don't get the beef on non-conference scheduling. Who cares? You either are good or you ain't.

So how 'good' are you? If you don't schedule teams that you think are better than you, you will never know. And I would hate for the 1st time my team is challenged all season to be in post-season play.

As a coach, I would much rather know going into post-season play that I won't see a team, no matter how far I make it, that is better than a team I played in non-conference play.

Why? LOL How is knowing that you're not going to see a team in the tournament better than what you scheduled non-conference going to help you win in the tournament? Especially, when you don't win any of them. You still have to put the ball in the basket.

Burg's schedule was fine. You guys act like they scheduled manchester, east, and green.

[Tri-StateYouthSports]

To draw on the infamous words of Mike Tyson "Everyone has a plan until you get punched in the mouth". I'd rather get punched in the mouth during the regular season and find out how my team responds as opposed to when it's win or go home time.

[wobycat]

How is that going to help Fairland? Do you believe that getting beat by dublin Coffman will help them win tournament games? How so?

[Tri-StateYouthSports]

How is that going to help Fairland? Do you believe that getting beat by dublin Coffman will help them win tournament games? How so?

Actually yes I do. Playing better teams makes you better. It's as simple as that.

[Burgfan/grad85]

I don't get the beef on non-conference scheduling. Who cares? You either are good or you ain't.

So how 'good' are you? If you don't schedule teams that you think are better than you, you will never know. And I would hate for the 1st time my team is challenged all season to be in post-season play.

As a coach, I would much rather know going into post-season play that I won't see a team, no matter how far I make it, that is better than a team I played in non-conference play.

Why? LOL How is knowing that you're not going to see a team in the tournament better than what you scheduled non-conference going to help you win in the tournament? Especially, when you don't win any of them. You still have to put the ball in the basket.

Burg's schedule was fine. You guys act like they scheduled manchester, east, and green.

These schedules are made far in advance
so how are you really gonna know how good your opponents are gonna be unless you can see into the future i guess ? Burgs schedule is what it is and they are dominating their opponents I think the average margin of victory is over 20 pts. And come tournament time of course Burg is going to be tested especially if they make a deep run IMO the sectional championship game wilk be a good one if its South Point they are a good team. There are a lot of good teams in the area Burg was just much better this year just because Burg wins by 20 doesn't mean they beat a bad team

[pfloyd]

So how 'good' are you? If you don't schedule teams that you think are better than you, you will never know. And I would hate for the 1st time my team is challenged all season to be in post-season play.

As a coach, I would much rather know going into post-season play that I won't see a team, no matter how far I make it, that is better than a team I played in non-conference play.

Why? LOL How is knowing that you're not going to see a team in the tournament better than what you scheduled non-conference going to help you win in the tournament? Especially, when you don't win any of them. You still have to put the ball in the basket.

Burg's schedule was fine. You guys act like they scheduled manchester, east, and green.

These schedules are made far in advance
so how are you really gonna know how good your opponents are gonna be unless you can see into the future i guess ? Burgs schedule is what it is and they are dominating their opponents I think the average margin of victory is over 20 pts. And come tournament time of course Burg is going to be tested especially if they make a deep run IMO the sectional championship game wilk be a good one if its South Point they are a good team. There are a lot of good teams in the area Burg was just much better this year just because Burg wins by 20 doesn't mean they beat a bad team

... I like the Fairfield Union philosophy in doing their scheduling their non-conference games ... obviously you have no control over the conference games - teams in the league are either up or down BUT when FU schedules in the non-conf side of the schedule from year to year the goal is to schedule 1/3 of their games vs teams that the coaching staff feels they SHOULD NOT win (which they could win if the play THE perfect game, stretches/pushes TEAM, etc) ... 1/3 of the games vs non-conf teams who they feel are EQUAL to their own team (still have to play well to win, will push FU to win) ... finally the last 1/3 vs teams who on paper FU SHOULD beat ... all games are "teachable" games to improve TEAM ... Goals : win the MSL , non-conference allow FU to improve to win the MSL AND (2nd goal) to advance deep into the post season ...

[VetteMan]

1991 and Sparta Highland instead of Sugarcreek Garaway.

Oak Hill instead of Chesapeake when Bendolph played.

Thanks Lucas, I guess it doesn't really matter if it's accurate or not, just throw it out there, and if it sticks fine.

[LucasDavenport]

1991 and Sparta Highland instead of Sugarcreek Garaway.

Oak Hill instead of Chesapeake when Bendolph played.

Thanks Lucas, I guess it doesn't really matter if it's accurate or not, just throw it out there, and if it sticks fine.

It was 92. I was wrong on the correction to 91.

But it was Sparta Highland

59-51 in Regional Final.

[E High]

Don’t think I’m insulting anyone. I have an opinion like everyone else. Sorry if we disagree. You must be a liberal Dem . And yes, I do wish everyone luck !

[VetteMan]

1991 and Sparta Highland instead of Sugarcreek Garaway.

Oak Hill instead of Chesapeake when Bendolph played.

Thanks Lucas, I guess it doesn't really matter if it's accurate or not, just throw it out there, and if it sticks fine.

It was 92. I was wrong on the correction to 91.

But it was Sparta Highland

59-51 in Regional Final.

I wasn't questioning you or even the year, I have a good friend whose son played with Jason Terry at Sparta Highland. Also Bendolph had his good game against Oak Hill in 2010, and OH was 20-0 that year before the tournament.

[LucasDavenport]

I corrected the year though and I was incorrect.

I watched that game with my wife and my nephew at The Convo. The future coach of Washington Court House was also at the game. But, was 4 months away from requiring a ticket.

And also an interesting note on Oak Hill in 2010. They were 19-0 before the tournament. My son was a junior that year and played for South Webster. We had to play a make up game with Oak Hill after the Sectionals. We were moving onto The Convo and they weren’t very happy campers.

[VetteMan]

I'm sure that you are probably right about 19-0 instead of 20-0. I know that one of the games that Bendolph only had like 3 pts against OH, but that game he had an outstanding game, and knocked OH out of the tournament. After getting beat and being out of the tournament, and then having to play a make-up game, I'm sure it would not have been pleasant to be around Norm.

[Pa Trojan]

Bottom line, you play the games you are slated to play, these things should be created three to four years in advance, Burg had no idea Portsmouth would be down, the league isnt as strong as the past etc etc, I agree play up, but when you dont have that ability you play to the best of your ability, Burg will be fine in the one and done, they are experienced and well coached

[trojandave]

For many years, Portsmouth scheduled many schools from Columbus, Cincinnati, and Dayton........yet when the tournament came, some of the toughest games for the Trojans were in the sectionals and districts......teams that were from the SE district who didn't play nearly the competition that PHS played. Good example was Wheelersburg in the late 70's and early 80's.......the Trojans and Pirates met 3 times during that era.....1978, 1983, and 1984......all 3 games went into overtime, with PHS winning in 78 and 83, and the Burg in 84 (Todd Staker, Craig Brown, coach Mike Lovenguth). In 1980, Portsmouth beat Chesapeake and Rock Hill at the Ironton sectional by a combined 7 points. In 1988, Portsmouth was the D2 state champion, but escaped the Shawnee State sectional with a 59-56 win over Ironton. Jackson beat a good Portsmouth team in the 1995 sectional. The 2011 Final 4 Trojans squeaked by South Point 65-64 in the Jackson sectional.

It's admirable to play a tough non-conference schedule, but it's far from a guarantee that a team will make a long tourney run because of it.

[sticks]

How is that going to help Fairland? Do you believe that getting beat by dublin Coffman will help them win tournament games? How so?

Actually yes I do. Playing better teams makes you better. It's as simple as that.

Agreed. You are only as good as the teams you play.

[yabbadabbadoo]

1991 and Sparta Highland instead of Sugarcreek Garaway.

Oak Hill instead of Chesapeake when Bendolph played.

True and true. Oaks were 20-0 going into that game. Was that the second Or third Norm coached team Burg beat in the sectionals when they were undefeated?

[Burgfan/grad85]

How is that going to help Fairland? Do you believe that getting beat by dublin Coffman will help them win tournament games? How so?

Actually yes I do. Playing better teams makes you better. It's as simple as that.

IMO Burg played a tougher schedule then Fairland especially the conference schedule. SOC ll is tougher than the OVC

[Tri-StateYouthSports]

IMO Burg played a tougher schedule then Fairland especially the conference schedule. SOC ll is tougher than the OVC

This took about 10 minutes to compile, which says otherwise on both counts.

[OHHS old timer]

Thanks for putting the brackets up TSYS! From NW Fla, I appreciate your hard work!!

[pfloyd]

IMO Burg played a tougher schedule then Fairland especially the conference schedule. SOC ll is tougher than the OVC

This took about 10 minutes to compile, which says otherwise on both counts.

TSYS ... what is Logan's SOS ? how about the current Elite 8 ?