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For what it’s worth on strength of schedule Martin RPI has them as follows

Warren .8104
Marietta .8049
New Lex .7999

enigmaax wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:53 am

E High wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:54 am Fine year for Marietta. If they want to move on in the tournament next year, it’s time to schedule up. Regular season means little. Don’t worry about who the other teams schedule !

Zero evidence that playing a tougher schedule translates to tournament success. New Lex & Warren have the 3rd & 5th worst opponents win percentage in the district and they’re playing in the finals, just as one example. Upsets happen, teams get hot at the right time, that’s just how tournaments go sometimes.

0 evidence ? Solid strength of schedule has done way more good than harm for teams trying to advance in the tournament. Weak SE district has allowed 1 of these teams to move on.

Sportsfan01 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:25 am For what it’s worth on strength of schedule Martin RPI has them as follows

Warren .8104
Marietta .8049
New Lex .7999

--Interesting and helpful additional information. This tells us the difference at least according to Martin RPI is negligible among these three teams. On the statewide rankings, both Warren and Marietta rank quite low (in the bottom quintile).

--One additional thought about SOS is that Martin doesn't consider closeness of games (NOT saying it should). For example, Marietta opponent Massillon Perry has the 12th D-1 ranked SOS in the entire state and lost games to Dover (20-3) by 2 points; Green (18-5) by 2; Hoover (17-7) by 3; and Indian Valley (20-4) by 8. No criticism of any rankings or numbers, just believe that some teams are a more competitive test than records might indicate based on their size, schedule and how they competed against elite teams.

Strength of schedule matters a great deal the further a team advances in the tournament. It also matters what kind of teams you face throughout the year….athletic, methodical, physical, skilled, fast-paced, etc. It helps the coaches prepare for the “real season.” Also, it gives the kids quality experience in dealing with different styles….in turn, the kids become more confident.

E High wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:32 am

enigmaax wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:53 am

E High wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:54 am Fine year for Marietta. If they want to move on in the tournament next year, it’s time to schedule up. Regular season means little. Don’t worry about who the other teams schedule !

Zero evidence that playing a tougher schedule translates to tournament success. New Lex & Warren have the 3rd & 5th worst opponents win percentage in the district and they’re playing in the finals, just as one example. Upsets happen, teams get hot at the right time, that’s just how tournaments go sometimes.

0 evidence ? Solid strength of schedule has done way more good than harm for teams trying to advance in the tournament. Weak SE district has allowed 1 of these teams to move on.

You’ve stated it, but you haven’t shown any evidence of it. Would a team have to play one more tough game, five more tough games, ten? How much better of a schedule does a team have to play to help them win a District tournament game and how do you know it?

There are 15+ teams who played tougher schedules that aren’t playing for the District title. Sorry, it’s just one of those sports fan thoughts that sounds smart but there’s absolutely no statistical proof that teams with tougher schedules will go further in the tournament. You can come up with anecdotal examples here and there, but you could do the same to demonstrate the opposite is true.

enigmaax wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 10:26 pm

E High wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:32 am

enigmaax wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:53 am

Zero evidence that playing a tougher schedule translates to tournament success. New Lex & Warren have the 3rd & 5th worst opponents win percentage in the district and they’re playing in the finals, just as one example. Upsets happen, teams get hot at the right time, that’s just how tournaments go sometimes.

0 evidence ? Solid strength of schedule has done way more good than harm for teams trying to advance in the tournament. Weak SE district has allowed 1 of these teams to move on.

You’ve stated it, but you haven’t shown any evidence of it. Would a team have to play one more tough game, five more tough games, ten? How much better of a schedule does a team have to play to help them win a District tournament game and how do you know it?

There are 15+ teams who played tougher schedules that aren’t playing for the District title. Sorry, it’s just one of those sports fan thoughts that sounds smart but there’s absolutely no statistical proof that teams with tougher schedules will go further in the tournament. You can come up with anecdotal examples here and there, but you could do the same to demonstrate the opposite is true.

I’ve been around. Not into this max prep/ analytic BS. When you have a great 15-16 games, it gets you ready for these close moments in the tournament. No guarantees., but the tougher, more tested teams have a way to win the tournament games.

You need to play teams along the way that expose weaknesses, every team has them. This gives the kids a chance to see, understand what they need to get better at as the season goes along. You can be exposed by a bad team or good team, you might even win that game but you need to understand - did you play and execute to the level you expected to, if not then you should not be satisfied and work on what went wrong even in a win.

justpassinthru wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:33 am You need to play teams along the way that expose weaknesses, every team has them. This gives the kids a chance to see, understand what they need to get better at as the season goes along. You can be exposed by a bad team or good team, you might even win that game but you need to understand - did you play and execute to the level you expected to, if not then you should not be satisfied and work on what went wrong even in a win.

Yes. Easy wins are great but don’t teach you anything that a grind it out type of game would

HamPorter wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 12:50 pm

justpassinthru wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:33 am You need to play teams along the way that expose weaknesses, every team has them. This gives the kids a chance to see, understand what they need to get better at as the season goes along. You can be exposed by a bad team or good team, you might even win that game but you need to understand - did you play and execute to the level you expected to, if not then you should not be satisfied and work on what went wrong even in a win.

Yes. Easy wins are great but don’t teach you anything that a grind it out type of game would

Not sure why people are picking on the kids for this one because you are. If you are saying Missing free throws, missing bunnies etc, well should have played tougher schedule etc. None of that matters, these are kids and sometimes it just doesnt bounce your way. Kids have nothing in the schedule making, nothing in the coach hiring or assistants, they just play for the love of the game. I have not personally seen one player not try their best to make a shot, get a stop, get a rebound etc this season.

Congratulations to all the teams this year regardless of records or tourney runs. Life lessons learned on the hardwood will last, people will forget your records in a couple years. Thanks for the memories and wishing you all the best of luck moving forward.