Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #9

[LetsGoPSU]

Trojans are winning, Coach Collins has them playing great defense and with a matchup hosting Fairland, hope we can keep it going...Go Trojans

[93Bulldog]

Athens top 8 argument ...

Athens beat Jackson 75-36 ... Vinton beats Jackson 56-53
Athens beat Alexander 39-26 ... Vinton loses to Alexander 73-71
Athens beat Meigs 75-63 ... Vinton beat Meigs 60-59
Athens beat Watterson 74-49 ... Fairfield Union beat Watterson 43-38
Watterson beat Worthington Christian 49-44, who beat Waterford 67-48, btw.
Athens took No. 2 Fairland to overtime.

* negative - they have some bad losses on their resume. New Lex being the big one. But, they were without Maxfield, Saltzmen and Ball in that game. First VC match-up, they just kicked Athens' butt, no denying that. 2nd match-up, Athens first game w/o Nick Lutz on the team. Some are saying this will end up being an 'addition by subtraction' situation' - and so far, it looks that way.

Athens is (3-0) since changes were made to the defense. They are now going zone and putting Griff on the block. Last night he responded with 11 pts, 12 rebounds and 15 assists. Young guys are growing up, team chemistry is better, they seem a lot more balanced, had 4 players in double figures last night and darn near had five (Chubb 9 pts).

[tvc_fan]

Athens top 8 argument ...

Athens beat Jackson 75-36 ... Vinton beats Jackson 56-53
Athens beat Alexander 39-26 ... Vinton loses to Alexander 73-71
Athens beat Meigs 75-63 ... Vinton beat Meigs 60-59
Athens beat Watterson 74-49 ... Fairfield Union beat Watterson 43-38
Watterson beat Worthington Christian 49-44, who beat Waterford 67-48, btw.
Athens took No. 2 Fairland to overtime.

* negative - they have some bad losses on their resume. New Lex being the big one. But, they were without Maxfield, Saltzmen and Ball in that game. First VC match-up, they just kicked Athens' butt, no denying that. 2nd match-up, Athens first game w/o Nick Lutz on the team. Some are saying this will end up being an 'addition by subtraction' situation' - and so far, it looks that way.

Athens is (3-0) since changes were made to the defense. They are now going zone and putting Griff on the block. Last night he responded with 11 pts, 12 rebounds and 15 assists. Young guys are growing up, team chemistry is better, they seem a lot more balanced, had 4 players in double figures last night and darn near had five (Chubb 9 pts).

Come on Be Real, Athens belongs in #8 in NO WAY

They beat
#18 Meigs
#28 Jackson
#35 Alexander

Just cause our teams played Vinton County Strong and the #34 Alexander beat Vinton County means nothing!!!
VINTON COUNTY WIPED THE FLOOR WITH YOU....NOT ONCE, BUT TWICE!!!

Oh and Fairland and Warren beat you as well, showing you all don't belong in Top 8!!!

Last 3 games that you changed defense, yes you may be 3-0

But against
10-8 Meigs.
5-13 Wellston
6-10 Bishop Watterson

[Ironman92]

Athens top 8 argument ...

Athens beat Jackson 75-36 ... Vinton beats Jackson 56-53
Athens beat Alexander 39-26 ... Vinton loses to Alexander 73-71
Athens beat Meigs 75-63 ... Vinton beat Meigs 60-59
Athens beat Watterson 74-49 ... Fairfield Union beat Watterson 43-38
Watterson beat Worthington Christian 49-44, who beat Waterford 67-48, btw.
Athens took No. 2 Fairland to overtime.

* negative - they have some bad losses on their resume. New Lex being the big one. But, they were without Maxfield, Saltzmen and Ball in that game. First VC match-up, they just kicked Athens' butt, no denying that. 2nd match-up, Athens first game w/o Nick Lutz on the team. Some are saying this will end up being an 'addition by subtraction' situation' - and so far, it looks that way.

Athens is (3-0) since changes were made to the defense. They are now going zone and putting Griff on the block. Last night he responded with 11 pts, 12 rebounds and 15 assists. Young guys are growing up, team chemistry is better, they seem a lot more balanced, had 4 players in double figures last night and darn near had five (Chubb 9 pts).

How did VC beat Jackson at VC?

Who is Athens knocking from the elite 8?

Fairland...nope
Vinton County...lol nope
Fairfield Union...nope
Warren...nope
Miami Trace...nope
Oak Hill...nope
Unioto...nope

Athens over all of (Waterford, Sheridan, Chillicothe, Logan, Clay etc)

The talent is there and they may very well be playing like one of the top 8 teams...but season resume isn't quite top 8 worthy

[biggdowgg]

93bulldog
Buy a bigger bag of twizzlers

[93Bulldog]

Last 3 games that you changed defense, yes you may be 3-0

But against
10-8 Meigs.
5-13 Wellston
6-10 Bishop Watterson

Don't let 6-10 Watterson fool you. They'd be around 12-4 playing some of the schedules we see in seo.

Beating the No. 1 ranked team (DIII) in the Columbus dispatch coaches poll (Worthington Christian) tells you a lot about Watterson. They also beat Westerville North and both games versus (13-3) DeSales were within 17 points - not to mention almost beating Fairfield Union. Athens absolutely destroyed them last night.

And how to do you tout Meigs as being a top team in one post, then downgrade them in another? Are you saying Athens' 11 point win over them isn't a quality win?

[tvc_fan]

Last 3 games that you changed defense, yes you may be 3-0

But against
10-8 Meigs.
5-13 Wellston
6-10 Bishop Watterson

Don't let 6-10 Watterson fool you. They'd be around 12-4 playing some of the schedules we see in seo.

Beating the No. 1 ranked team (DIII) in the Columbus dispatch coaches poll (Worthington Christian) tells you a lot about Watterson. They also beat Westerville North and both games versus (13-3) DeSales were within 17 points. Athens absolutely destroyed them last night.

And how to do you tout Meigs as being a top team in one post, then downgrade them in another? Are you saying Athens' 11 point win over them isn't a quality win?

I really don't see where I have talked Meigs up in many post at all, We are playing good ball, not Top 8 ball, but we have played well against VC...We don't have any high quality wins.

I am a realist, We aren't a good team until we start finding a way to get wins against the higher team.

And yes you might have beat us by 11 points, but anyone that seen that game knows it was much closer then that. I don't have my homer glasses on because we beat teams ranked #18 and lower.

You're trying to argue Athens is better because they beat teams that gave VC a run for their money, When the real deciding factor should be what you done against VC yourself!!!

Will put my Homer glasses on for a minute:

Alexander beat Vinton County...Meigs beat Alexander twice
Vinton County only beat Meigs in TWO games by the total of 9 points.
Meigs beat 27-1 Holly Pond Alabama Team
Athens only beat us by 11

We deserve Top 8 since we have only lost 4 games since the 0-4 start, those 4 losses coming to VC by 8, Point Pleasant by 8, Athens by 11 and VC by 1.
LMAO

[93Bulldog]

Closer than 11? Athens led from start to finish. They led 15-13 after one, 35-28 at half, 52-47 after three ... before winning 75-63, which is actually a 12-point win, btw.

Lol

[tvc_fan]

Closer than 11? Athens led from start to finish. They led 15-13 after one, 35-28 at half, 52-47 after three ... before winning 75-63, which is actually a 12-point win, btw.

Lol

Yes it was much closer than the (12 points) would indicate. Like I said anyone there knows that.

You beating Meigs, Alexander and Jackson doesn't make you TOP 8.

[biggdowgg]

TWIZZLERS! !###

Or I've heard pineapple upside down cake will work

[93Bulldog]

Closer than 11? Athens led from start to finish. They led 15-13 after one, 35-28 at half, 52-47 after three ... before winning 75-63, which is actually a 12-point win, btw.

Lol

Yes it was much closer than the (12 points) would indicate. Like I said anyone there knows that.

You beating Meigs, Alexander and Jackson doesn't make you TOP 8.

Maybe next year instead of playing warren, parkersburg, fairland, morgan, watterson, marietta - we'll just play a cupcake schedule like Vinton & be 19-3. That way we can be in top 8.




Or just bye a case of twizzlers like biggdowgg said. Either or will work. Lol

[93Bulldog]

Btw, im just bored waiting on the super bowl. I know Athens isn't top 8 material.

Sheeeesh

Lol

[Ironman92]

Closer than 11? Athens led from start to finish. They led 15-13 after one, 35-28 at half, 52-47 after three ... before winning 75-63, which is actually a 12-point win, btw.

Lol

Yes it was much closer than the (12 points) would indicate. Like I said anyone there knows that.

You beating Meigs, Alexander and Jackson doesn't make you TOP 8.

Maybe next year instead of playing warren, parkersburg, fairland, morgan, watterson, marietta - we'll just play a cupcake schedule like Vinton & be 19-3. That way we can be in top 8.




Or just bye a case of twizzlers like biggdowgg said. Either or will work. Lol

Well those are 6 tough games...but VC has Logan twice, @Chillicothe and @Miami Trace---so minus two of your tough opponents off if you want to make that your case....smells more like a 5 loss team.

[93Bulldog]

Ha! Athens would beat Logan twice. Its a shame they called & said they didnt want to play us anymore!

[tvc_fan]

Just curious if you happen to lose the first game of the tourney, was scheduling those games a benefit?

[93Bulldog]

Just curious if you happen to lose the first game of the tourney, was scheduling those games a benefit?

Who knows. You can make an argument for both strategies. Schedule tough - be better prepared. Schedule weak - get a higher seed.

[tvc_fan]

Just curious if you happen to lose the first game of the tourney, was scheduling those games a benefit?

Who knows. You can make an argument for both strategies. Schedule tough - be better prepared. Schedule weak - get a higher seed.

Schedule up and possibly lose those games and lose confidence.
Schedule down and win and gain confidence.

Confidence can go a long ways!!

[biggdowgg]

Just curious if you happen to lose the first game of the tourney, was scheduling those games a benefit?

Who knows. You can make an argument for both strategies. Schedule tough - be better prepared. Schedule weak - get a higher seed.

Schedule up and possibly lose those games and lose confidence.
Schedule down and win and gain confidence.

Confidence can go a long ways!!

i agree ,I dont have a problem with tough schedules but not to the point where you are going to go 500 or lower,kids get frustrated and like you said lose confidence when they get beat up all year

[tvc_fan]

Who knows. You can make an argument for both strategies. Schedule tough - be better prepared. Schedule weak - get a higher seed.

Schedule up and possibly lose those games and lose confidence.
Schedule down and win and gain confidence.

Confidence can go a long ways!!

i agree ,I dont have a problem with tough schedules but not to the point where you are going to go 500 or lower,kids get frustrated and like you said lose confidence when they get beat up all year

Yes, I think if you an hang with ALL the scheduled up teams then yes you can still gain confidence...but if you get bowed out by them, then that can be bad.

However 93 is knocking how VC is doing it, but VC beat Athens twice and looking at the #1 seed. So you really can't say it's the wrong way.

Me, I feel good late in the season as a Meigs Fan and being able to play tough against the #1 seeded team in the D2 Logan.

[bman]

Just curious if you happen to lose the first game of the tourney, was scheduling those games a benefit?

Who knows. You can make an argument for both strategies. Schedule tough - be better prepared. Schedule weak - get a higher seed.

I believe the Green and Purple will be meeting next winter in the Purple Palace.

93Bulldog, try sending pfloyd some Pizza Crossing pie for tonight's game. May help with your lobbying.