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Re: OVC 2017

Post by mrwonderful » Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:10 pm

They wont call a strike at the letters anymore but they'll call a strike at the ankle or 6 inches outside..It's total bull crap ....I can understand in biddy league expanding the strike zone but by god when their in High School it's time to put your big boy pants on and call the game like it was suppose to be called. Home plate is there for a reason, 1 inch outside is a frigin ball...Lazy Umpires as far as I'm concerned!!!! Pitchers have all the advantage with these liberal pitcher umpires..Not all are like that but way to many are.....All you bigtime Umpires out there... Midway between belt and top of shoulders... and basically the bottom of the knee. I can stand one a little high or low as long as its over the plate but its total bull crap when a batter would have to reach out with a boat oar to hit the dang ball... Quit the bull crap umps!!!!!



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Re: OVC 2017

Post by LetsGoPSU » Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:02 am

I suggest you take a class, buy the gear, pass the exam and go take one the spots, plenty of room for good umpires.

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by hilljack » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:49 am

There just aren't a lot of quality umpires out there any more, Don't know why, but I've seen some pretty bad ones this year already. The problem is, sometimes these guys are changing outcomes of games. I understand everybody is human, but, jeeez, I agree with you guys.

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by hilljack » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:53 am

Gallipolis beat Coal Grove last night giving the Blue Devils a lead in the OVC with a conferenc record (I think) of 8-3, and Coal Grove now 7-4. Big games tonight include Ironton against SP for 2 games (finishing up the first), and Rock Hill travels to Portsmouth. The SP vs Ironton tonight could be huge, i would love to be there.

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by mrwonderful » Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:25 pm

LetsGoPSU I suggest you keep drinking the Kool-Aid.....You must be one of these Umpires who expanded the Home Plate from 17 in to 24 in...It's a crying shame that the wuzzyification of America has included expanding the strike zone where a batter from game to game has no clue what it is....The plates there for a reason!!!!!!!!!!! and yes, way to many games have been determined by these liberal strike zones by way to many umpires.... I suggest you go back to class and take a refresher course on the strike zone PSU......The SP -Portsmouth game had somewhere around 14 k"s by batters taking called 3rd strikes with most pitches outside or inside 3 in or more...Total bull crap!!!!! But go ahead and enable the Umps who do this....Pump the sunshine. I mean my god how do they expect a Pitcher to throw a ball in that little of an area..It's only fair they call strikes a half foot outside.. When I umpired years ago we used home plate to go by to call strikes...Today u have the liberal OHSAA destroying the game...... You have your little hand book telling u to expand the zones. that's why the Kentucky teams are better for the most part...They don't have all these bull crap liberal regulations ohio has to deal with when it comes to amount of games played, practices in off season ect.....

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by Phoenix31 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:10 pm

mrwonderful wrote:LetsGoPSU I suggest you keep drinking the Kool-Aid.....You must be one of these Umpires who expanded the Home Plate from 17 in to 24 in...It's a crying shame that the wuzzyification of America has included expanding the strike zone where a batter from game to game has no clue what it is....The plates there for a reason!!!!!!!!!!! and yes, way to many games have been determined by these liberal strike zones by way to many umpires.... I suggest you go back to class and take a refresher course on the strike zone PSU......The SP -Portsmouth game had somewhere around 14 k"s by batters taking called 3rd strikes with most pitches outside or inside 3 in or more...Total bull crap!!!!! But go ahead and enable the Umps who do this....Pump the sunshine. I mean my god how do they expect a Pitcher to throw a ball in that little of an area..It's only fair they call strikes a half foot outside.. When I umpired years ago we used home plate to go by to call strikes...Today u have the liberal OHSAA destroying the game...... You have your little hand book telling u to expand the zones. that's why the Kentucky teams are better for the most part...They don't have all these bull crap liberal regulations ohio has to deal with when it comes to amount of games played, practices in off season ect.....
I was at a game around Lexington, KY last night where the strike zone was 3 to 4 inches outside on both sides of the plate for both teams. It isn't just Ohio.

BTW, Kentucky does have a limit on how many regular season games can be played - 36. In addition, there are limitations on practices during the off-season.

http://khsaa.org/handbook/bylaws/20162017/bylaw23.pdf

One final note, lay off my friend LetsGoPSU. I have known him for over 40 years. He means what he says....in a good way.

Why don't you go back and umpire again?

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by mrwonderful » Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:33 pm

...i'll repeat what i said...3 to 4 inches outside is not a strike...it's cheating the kids...They never learn the strike zone...KY is more lax than ohio on regulations and everyone knows it...I never said only in ohio was the strike zone bad.. The plate is there for a reason...Why not go by it? I mean what I say in a good way....I can understand biddy league expanding the zone but not high school and above...

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by mrwonderful » Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:37 pm

By the way what I wrote has nothing to do about me going back to umpire. It has to do with the strike zone...A strike zone that has gotten so wide it's determining outcomes of ball games and that is Busch league.....

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by Phoenix31 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:51 pm

mrwonderful wrote:...i'll repeat what i said...3 to 4 inches outside is not a strike...it's cheating the kids...They never learn the strike zone...KY is more lax than ohio on regulations and everyone knows it...I never said only in ohio was the strike zone bad.. The plate is there for a reason...Why not go by it? I mean what I say in a good way....I can understand biddy league expanding the zone but not high school and above...
Of course, it is not a strike - by rule. But, it is a strike if the umpire calls it as such. Therefore, become an umpire again and change the system.

Your previous quote about the "liberal OHSAA" having a handbook about expanding the zones and then stating "that's why the Kentucky teams are better for the most part" sure is black and white about comparing strike zones in Ohio and Kentucky.
mrwonderful wrote:Today u have the liberal OHSAA destroying the game...... You have your little hand book telling u to expand the zones. that's why the Kentucky teams are better for the most part...They don't have all these bull crap liberal regulations ohio has to deal with when it comes to amount of games played, practices in off season ect.....
I wonder, how many coaches did you throw out of ballgames in your lifetime?

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by hilljack » Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:56 pm

Plenty of good umpires out there too, with good strike zones. Honestly, I'm more interested in who's going to win the OVC myself, just saying.

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by mrwonderful » Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:44 pm

I wonder how many times you raised helllllllll about a strike 3 call that was obviously a ball? lol

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by mrwonderful » Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:48 pm

OVC is coming down to the wire...5 team raise to the finish with fairland and the storied Trojans bringing up the rear...Hope I didn't hurt anyone's feelings.... Todays society gets butt hurt pretty easy now days unless you sugarcoat facts....

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by mrwonderful » Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:51 pm

Yes Hill jack there are plenty of good umpires out there but that does not diminish the fact that HS strike zone has gotten expanded to the point their treating these ball players like their in biddy league.....There's also plenty of bad ones...

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by hilljack » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:04 pm

mrwonderful wrote:I wonder how many times you raised helllllllll about a strike 3 call that was obviously a ball? lol
Maybe once or twice, or a few. Ok, you got me, maybe bunches. LOL

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by baseball5 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:49 pm

Rock Hill defeated Portsmouth tonight 2-1. Landon smith puts on a dominating performance.

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by baseball5 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:50 pm

does anyone have the Gallia-Chesapeake score?

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by LetsGoPSU » Thu Apr 27, 2017 3:46 am

didn't mean to get your panties in a wad, just adding to the point....if you have the time and love the game, get back into it and help generate the change.I guess the point Im trying to make is this, this forum will not lead to one thing being changed, there has been and always will be a need for good people to step up and officiate games,
I remember my days of coaching, and also as an Umpire, the one thing I always heard was be consistent,

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Post by YOU'RE TIGER BAIT » Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:40 am

mrwonderful wrote:OVC is coming down to the wire...5 team raise to the finish with fairland and the storied Trojans bringing up the rear...Hope I didn't hurt anyone's feelings.... Todays society gets butt hurt pretty easy now days unless you sugarcoat facts....

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by hilljack » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:35 am

baseball5 wrote:does anyone have the Gallia-Chesapeake score?

Gallia won in 8 innings, 7-5

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Post by Phoenix31 » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:47 am

YOU'RE TIGER BAIT wrote: careful mr. orndorff, you may get on the last nerve of a Trojan fan.
I don't argue with men who wear dresses...

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Post by Watson40 » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:53 am

Good conversation about umps, except for the verbal sniping haha. I believe letsgopsu was sincere when he said to go umpire. There is actually a tremendous shortage of decent umps. I haven't seen any overly wide strike zones. I don't know how I would react to that because I always coached my kids to defend the strike zone that blue has shown. But if they are truly 3-4 inches outside, then ouch. That is bad. I am more concerned with consistency. If they call it both ways then both teams have the advantage/ disadvantage of that ridiculous zone.

But keep in mind, on any call, one team is happy and one is mad. What are your records? I always see worse umpires when I lose haha. Last summer we lost 13 games. I will be darned if those weren't the 13 worst plate umps I have ever seen! :lol:

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by Phoenix31 » Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:14 am

Watson40 wrote:Good conversation about umps, except for the verbal sniping haha. I believe letsgopsu was sincere when he said to go umpire. There is actually a tremendous shortage of decent umps. I haven't seen any overly wide strike zones. I don't know how I would react to that because I always coached my kids to defend the strike zone that blue has shown. But if they are truly 3-4 inches outside, then ouch. That is bad. I am more concerned with consistency. If they call it both ways then both teams have the advantage/ disadvantage of that ridiculous zone.

But keep in mind, on any call, one team is happy and one is mad. What are your records? I always see worse umpires when I lose haha. Last summer we lost 13 games. I will be darned if those weren't the 13 worst plate umps I have ever seen! :lol:
Our team in Kentucky is 13-4.

https://scoreboard.12dt.com/scoreboard/ ... /?id=50360

It was called the same both ways. The opposing team's coaches were almost thrown out 3 times for arguing balls and strikes. I was in the booth so I am able to look directly down at the plate.

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by Firebreather » Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:14 pm

As long as the game is being called both ways, then good teams adapt to the strike zone. Bad ones whine about it when it doesn't go in their favor. Period! If its close enough to call with 2 strikes then swing the bat. What also ticks me off is when a player watches 2 pitches down the middle then gripes about strike three being too high etc. The name of the game is swing the bat. I can remember a certain Latino player stating when asked why he never walks in games, "I didn't get off the island by walking."

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by osumufan » Thu Apr 27, 2017 2:37 pm

South Point has split their games with just about every team in the OVC except for Peaking Peake and Fairland twice. This Friday they play Coal Grove for the final OVC matchup.

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Post by LetsGoPSU » Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:19 pm

Watson is correct, The whole nation needs umpires, there are times when umpires need to travel for an hour or more to call games in Pa.Just not enough numbers to cover the week long slate, consistency is key, be consistent and fair, that's all I ever really wanted as a coach

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by PopeSnoopDogThe1st » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:11 pm

4/28. Rock Hill over Ironton 2-0 in 8 innings

RH Overall Record: 10-4 OVC Record: 8-4

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by Phoenix31 » Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:27 am

Big Win for Portsmouth!

Portsmouth 8
Gallia 1

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by Phoenix31 » Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:29 am

Portsmouth is now 6-11 overall and 5-8 in the OVC.

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Phoenix31 wrote:
YOU'RE TIGER BAIT wrote: careful mr. orndorff, you may get on the last nerve of a Trojan fan.
I don't argue with men who wear dresses...

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we should get along like peas n carrots then.
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Re: OVC 2017

Post by sportsfan2015 » Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:03 pm

Coal Grove and South Point score from last night ?

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Re: OVC 2017

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YOU'RE TIGER BAIT wrote: we should get along like peas n carrots then.
If you say so.....Jenny.

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by BearHaskins » Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:48 pm

CG 7 SP 3

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by sportsfan2015 » Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:30 pm

Pretty sure that makes Gallia, Coal Grove, and Rock Hill all tied at 8-4 in conference and tied for first with Rock Hill and Gallia to play on Monday. Not sure who Coal Grove has this week.

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by Phoenix31 » Sun Apr 30, 2017 4:11 pm

http://seodab.org/images/stories/baseba ... 7BB_D2.pdf

Gallia Academy, D2, South #7 seed



http://seodab.org/images/stories/baseba ... 7BB_D3.pdf

Coal Grove - D3, East #2 seed
South Point - D3, East #3 seed
Ironton - D3, East #4 seed
Rock Hill - D3, East #7 seed
Chesapeake - D3, East #11 seed
Portsmouth - D3, West #13 seed
Fairland - D3, East #14 seed

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Re: OVC 2017

Post by hilljack » Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:58 pm

Moral of the story: only the first half of your season counts towards seeding.

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