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Re: High School

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:57 pm
by Oddthomas

Re: High School

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:05 am
by ManitouDan2
Thanks for the link but has anyone got the cliff notes version ?

Re: High School

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:45 am
by SOSoftball
Its a method that OHSAA put in place to balance private/public schools and open enrollment. OHSAA has a formula they use to determine how many "students" they add to a schools number in determining what division they will play in for sports. If a school has a lot of kids that open enroll into a school district that may push the school from a Division 5 school to a division 4 school in a certain sport.

As an example Bishop Ready had 143 male students counted when looking at what division they will play in for football this pas season. OHSAA added an additional 50 "students" to their count to take it up to 193. So when OHSAA determines divisions they are using the 193 number not the 143.

It doesn't mean that Bishop Ready had 50 students outside of their district enroll. That is just the number that resulted from the formula OHSAA uses.

I am not an expert on competitive balance so if I messed anything up someone can correct me.

Re: High School

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:58 am
by Oddthomas
Enrollment count is done every 2 years to give you the base #
The AD then has to go through each student on that sports roster to determine if they are tier 0,1 or 2
If student and at least 1 parent live in the district they are tier 0 and they don't affect the count
If not but they have been continuously enrolled since the 7th grade they are tier 1 and have to add 1 to the count
If they transfer after 7th grade year they are tier 2 and for softball you add 5 to the count
This is for public schools, private schools have some different rules
That's the basics

Re: High School

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:50 pm
by ManitouDan2
thanks , didnt know such a system existed .

Re: High School

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:25 pm
by ColdHardTruth
It's a good system. I was unsure of what grade it started. I was thinking 9th grade.

I've seen a few kids around here use a friend's address or distant relative. So the process isn't exact but it does help competitive balance.

Re: High School

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:13 pm
by fbnut
ColdHardTruth wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:25 pm It's a good system. I was unsure of what grade it started. I was thinking 9th grade.

I've seen a few kids around here use a friend's address or distant relative. So the process isn't exact but it does help competitive balance.
Not sure why you would do that with open enrollment

Re: High School

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:21 am
by ColdHardTruth
To cheat the competitive balance numbers. Read the posts we were referencing and how competitive balance works with OHSAA

Re: High School

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:06 am
by fbnut
ColdHardTruth wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:21 am To cheat the competitive balance numbers. Read the posts we were referencing and how competitive balance works with OHSAA
I read the posts. I understand competitive balance. just not sure I’m buying into local schools or family’s trying to cheat the numbers.
The kids I I know move in but the majority of the kids that count are the ones that have went to the schools since kindergarten but have always lived just outside of the district
Ohsaa came up with it a few years back but I think the fall of 17 was when it actually started

Re: High School

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:54 am
by ColdHardTruth
I've seen the numbers cheated. But I'd say it's happening everywhere with the bigger schools/programs

Re: High School

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:57 pm
by rxburgfan
beaverlover wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:02 pm
mglight88 wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:15 pm Renea Butts is Oak Hill's varsity softball coach and has been for many seasons.
I would like to think the Minford-Burg games will be very good to watch.
Rooting for my Falcons though!
Yes,this could be the year that Minford gets Burg. Falcons have alot of talent returning from last year as does Burg but I think Minford is right there. Should be 2 fun competitive games between these rivals!
Be good to see some good games again. Burg has to get bid until someone beats them. As someone stated earlier Burg simply reloads. Got some youth but talent.

Re: High School

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:12 am
by asportsfan
rxburgfan wrote: Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:57 pm
beaverlover wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:02 pm
mglight88 wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:15 pm Renea Butts is Oak Hill's varsity softball coach and has been for many seasons.
I would like to think the Minford-Burg games will be very good to watch.
Rooting for my Falcons though!
Yes,this could be the year that Minford gets Burg. Falcons have alot of talent returning from last year as does Burg but I think Minford is right there. Should be 2 fun competitive games between these rivals!
Be good to see some good games again. Burg has to get bid until someone beats them. As someone stated earlier Burg simply reloads. Got some youth but talent.
Oak Hill is full of young talent and can be a contender in the next few years with the right coaching. Coaching will play a big part in their success. It seems the team to beat again this year is Burg with Minford right behind. Just not sure about Minford’s pitching.