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Re: High School

Post by JTEK » Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:06 pm

orangeandblack98 wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:06 pm
but our bench is more talented than anyone elses starting lineup
The gap has narrowed



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Re: High School

Post by ManitouDan2 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:19 pm

Just my opinion but experience at the HS level is overrated . At 14u travel ball these kids that play for the best travel teams are seeing better pitching in the summer at 13-14u than what they see in HS ( at least on a consistent level) . The pitching overall in SEO is just not so good . A few dandies , very many that just pitch 4-5 months a year and throw because no one else is available .

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Re: High School

Post by fbnut » Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:24 pm

My daughter improved each year in high school.
Played mid level travel ball
Hard to replace the kids the burg has lost the last 2 years

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Re: High School

Post by ColdHardTruth » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:54 am

It is awfully quiet considering we're just a couple weeks or so from practices kicking off.

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Re: High School

Post by orangeandblack98 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:58 pm

ManitouDan2 wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:19 pm
Just my opinion but experience at the HS level is overrated . At 14u travel ball these kids that play for the best travel teams are seeing better pitching in the summer at 13-14u than what they see in HS ( at least on a consistent level) . The pitching overall in SEO is just not so good . A few dandies , very many that just pitch 4-5 months a year and throw because no one else is available .
So was burg overrated? What 13-14 year olds are facing better players and pitching than they would face when they play our varsity team? My guess is no one.

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Re: High School

Post by ColdHardTruth » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:11 pm

Does an angel get it's wings every time Burg brags on itself?

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Re: High School

Post by ManitouDan2 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:25 pm

orangeandblack98 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:58 pm
ManitouDan2 wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:19 pm
Just my opinion but experience at the HS level is overrated . At 14u travel ball these kids that play for the best travel teams are seeing better pitching in the summer at 13-14u than what they see in HS ( at least on a consistent level) . The pitching overall in SEO is just not so good . A few dandies , very many that just pitch 4-5 months a year and throw because no one else is available .
So was burg overrated? What 13-14 year olds are facing better players and pitching than they would face when they play our varsity team? My guess is no one.
I'm not sure why you are asking me if Burg was over rated ,( I certainly didn't intend for it to read that way ) I was actually referring to at least one Burg youngster , probably two , who at the 14u level def saw better pitching than what they will see from 90% of the SOC , if you play for the lasers or outlaws at 14u you see great pitching most games . Outlaws # 1 already verbally committed to Ohio State . Few others already committed to D1 college programs .

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Re: High School

Post by orangeandblack98 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:14 am

exactly. i was saying no one outside of burg plays at that level and we have several.

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Re: High School

Post by ManitouDan2 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:07 am

Ok , we are on the same page , but there is a LOT of good players in the SOC this year , NW has 2 kids with high level experience , Oak Hill has a couple, Minford has several , should make for a more balanced , competitive conference .The young pitcher at Minford looked great this fall with her travel team . Going to be a good year. Burg still king til someone steps up . Edit : Forgot to mention Waverly should be up this year as well compared to previous years .
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Re: High School

Post by AIM » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:25 am

ColdHardTruth,

I think you must be right!!! :lol: I think I hear them singing!!

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Re: High School

Post by Browns30 » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:07 pm

Honestly, who can compete with the scioto county all stars anyways? They are the best in every sport and they SHOULD be for obvious reasons. But to say there's no talent anywhere else is just ignorant.

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Re: High School

Post by JTEK » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:23 pm

Browns30 wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:07 pm
Honestly, who can compete with the scioto county all stars anyways? They are the best in every sport and they SHOULD be for obvious reasons. But to say there's no talent anywhere else is just ignorant.
Just out of curiosity why do you think parents decide to bring there children into the burg school system?

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Re: High School

Post by Browns30 » Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:17 pm

Oh I don't know, since it obviously isn't sports...marching band?

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Re: High School

Post by JTEK » Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:24 pm

Browns30 wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:17 pm
Oh I don't know, since it obviously isn't sports...marching band?
Every school has sports

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Re: High School

Post by fbnut » Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:06 pm

Browns30 wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:07 pm
Honestly, who can compete with the scioto county all stars anyways? They are the best in every sport and they SHOULD be for obvious reasons. But to say there's no talent anywhere else is just ignorant.
Kind of like oak hill basketball but hey the burg proved last night that sometimes you can beat those all star teams

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Re: High School

Post by Browns30 » Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:09 pm

No, two all star teams played each other last night and burg won.

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Re: High School

Post by ColdHardTruth » Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:44 pm

I'm not knocking Burg. Congratulations to them on having a program that draws people in like they do.
I think a lot of programs could learn from Burgs model to success.
The sad thing is people would rather jump on their coat tails and ride their success rather than getting involved with their own programs and making them better.

You look at some of the programs that have made strides around here in the last couple years. They will tell you they are copying what they have seen Burg do.

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Re: High School

Post by JTEK » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:38 pm

The burg doesn’t excell because of transfers. They get the transfers because they excell.

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Re: High School

Post by Browns30 » Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:10 pm

JTEK wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:38 pm
The burg doesn’t excell because of transfers. They get the transfers because they excell.
Did you go to "the burg"? If so, your lack of spelling makes me question their academics. That's why kids transfer in, right? Academic reasons only. I'm not knocking on Burg either. If I lived in Scioto county, I guarantee my kid would go there. But my point is, stop bragging because you are expected to be the best anyways. No one is going to be surprised when you win.

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Re: High School

Post by JTEK » Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:44 am

Browns30 wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:10 pm
JTEK wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:38 pm
The burg doesn’t excell because of transfers. They get the transfers because they excell.
Did you go to "the burg"? If so, your lack of spelling makes me question their academics. That's why kids transfer in, right? Academic reasons only. I'm not knocking on Burg either. If I lived in Scioto county, I guarantee my kid would go there. But my point is, stop bragging because you are expected to be the best anyways. No one is going to be surprised when you win.
Excel :lol: feel better now
Who is bragging? You were the one that insinuated the burgs only good because they get transfers. I just disagreed with you. Apologies in advance for any misspelling :roll:

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Re: High School

Post by fbnut » Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:56 am

I guess I’ll go with Minford since we can’t predict the burg because it’s considered bragging. A quick spell check would be appreciated Browns

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Re: High School

Post by Browns30 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:18 am

The one bragging that I'm referring to is orangeandblack98 who said there's no talent anywhere but burg. Are you insinuating that burg would have had a state champion baseball, softball and football teams without transfers? As said above, good for them for being able to draw in the athletes, but don't deny that it has anything to do with their success.

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Re: High School

Post by JTEK » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:27 am

fbnut wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:56 am
I guess I’ll go with Minford since we can’t predict the burg because it’s considered bragging. A quick spell check would be appreciated Browns
I’ll stick with burg. I like it when Angels get their wings. Is that the correct usage of “their” Browns? I always get that one mixed up

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Re: High School

Post by noreply66 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:55 pm

JTEK wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:27 am
fbnut wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:56 am
I guess I’ll go with Minford since we can’t predict the burg because it’s considered bragging. A quick spell check would be appreciated Browns
I’ll stick with burg. I like it when Angels get their wings. Is that the correct usage of “their” Browns? I always get that one mixed up
their is ownership....wings for Angels would be ownership..........there is more like location.....I went there to buy something. There going to do this to day is wrong....They're going to do this to day.

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Re: High School

Post by bman » Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:39 pm

Browns30 wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:18 am
The one bragging that I'm referring to is orangeandblack98 who said there's no talent anywhere but burg. Are you insinuating that burg would have had a state champion baseball, softball and football teams without transfers? As said above, good for them for being able to draw in the athletes, but don't deny that it has anything to do with their success.
Burg is the Scioto County all-star team. Congrats to them for having the program that draws kids in, but you have to call a spade a spade.

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Re: High School

Post by ManitouDan2 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:05 pm

Burg did have some students transfer in , but the girls doing the heavy lifting are Burg kids through and through . Look at the past few years -- Faith Howard , Michal Cunningham , Taylor Dempsey , Laiken Salyers ( prob others ) , and this new group with Sarah Claxon , Boo Sturgill , Sydney Spense and others .. it certainly isnt like Burg's talent was low and in came recruits to save the day . I guess B Klaiber did transfer in and helped , so who transferred in and created this all star team ?

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Re: High School

Post by ColdHardTruth » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:21 pm

Multiple girls you just named parents did not attend Burg. They moved them there to be part of it.

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Re: High School

Post by ManitouDan2 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:40 pm

So going to school there from grades 1-12 isnt good enough if your parents didnt go there ? Whatever , I dont have a dog in the fight but it was my opinion burg's best players ( 90% or so ) were kids who went to grade school , jr high and HS there .. thats good enough for me . Who cares where mommy and daddy went to school ?

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Re: High School

Post by ColdHardTruth » Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:49 am

Your not seeing the argument here. Your misunderstanding, they are talking about why people choose Burg over other programs. Multiple girls you named live outside Burg district but did attend Burg K-12.
The question is why Burg and not their current district.

Short answer, their parents knew Burg has the better programs. I don't fault them for that. Maybe of other programs would get their act together and become more appealing it would help take away from the "Scioto County All Star Team"

My personal opinion though in Softball is Oak Hill is only a season or two away from knocking Burg off.

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Re: High School

Post by KSW » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:44 am

I think open enrollment is a great option. Why should it be a kid's responsibility to "take one for the team" and stay in a terrible program or school. My daughter changed schools her 8th grade year. Best decision we ever made. Better school district, better academics, sports, administration. It was a very difficult decision for me and my wife, easy for my daughter. She is a junior now and is very happy.

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Re: High School

Post by Browns30 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:22 am

ColdHardTruth wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:49 am
Your not seeing the argument here. Your misunderstanding, they are talking about why people choose Burg over other programs. Multiple girls you named live outside Burg district but did attend Burg K-12.
The question is why Burg and not their current district.

Short answer, their parents knew Burg has the better programs. I don't fault them for that. Maybe of other programs would get their act together and become more appealing it would help take away from the "Scioto County All Star Team"

My personal opinion though in Softball is Oak Hill is only a season or two away from knocking Burg off.
Yes, that is what I was trying to say. I don't think anyone should have to stay in a terrible program or school because they live in that school district, but not everyone has that option. Good for them if they can do it. I'm just saying, it's hard for anyone else to compete with Burg for that reason.

Oak Hill will have a very young team. All of the girls have grown up together in the little village of Oak Hill and have been playing ball together since they were 7-8 years old. The parents have invested a lot of time to help these kids get to where they are now and hopefully continue to get better.

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Re: High School

Post by AIM » Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:46 pm

Not to say Burg does not have high academics but to imply that kids are transferring there for anything but sports is ridiculous! What is funny is that people are talking about the transfers making them championship teams. What I see is that the "raised through the system" Burg kids are the ones on the field. The transfers are either coming in to ride the coat tails of the home grown to be able to say " I was on a State Championship team" but never see the field or because they think they are so good they will win out a spot from a Burg player. Can only have so many on the field. If players are about equal the Burg kid will play. A real shame to think there are quality players willing to sit the bench at Burg rather than play at their home district. Maybe if everyone stayed put and worked on their team and program the leagues would be more competitive all around and make everyone better.
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Re: High School

Post by AIM » Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:47 pm

Not to say Burg does not have high academics but to imply that kids are transferring there for anything but sports is ridiculous! What is funny is that people are talking about the transfers making them championship teams. What I see is that the "raised through the system" Burg kids are the ones on the field. The transfers are either coming in to ride the coat tails of the home grown to be able to say " I was on a State Championship team" but never see the field or because they think they are so good they will win out a spot from a Burg player. Can only have so many on the field. If players are about equal the Burg kid will play. A real shame to think there are quality players willing to sit the bench at Burg rather than play at their home district. Maybe if everyone stayed put and worked on their team and program the leagues would be more competitive all around and make everyone better.
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Re: High School

Post by Oddthomas » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:52 pm

Wheelersburg - enrollment - 149 Competitive Balance +16
Minford - enrollment - 155 CB +15
Waverly - enrollment - 201 CB +21
West - enrollment - 138 CB +3
Valley - enrollment - 111 CB +3
West Union - enrollment - 139 CB +5

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Re: High School

Post by ManitouDan2 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:49 pm

Whats a competitive balance ?

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