2018 SOC 1

[ManitouDan]

Wish the PDT would do local stats , they are somewhat unreliable but it’s better then nothing .

[SEOhio]

It would definitely be an additional selling point for PDT if they would keep and print the stats of local teams. I know it would take a lot of coaches cooperation to actually send in those stats though. I am sure with all the technology available that there is an app that would quickly send those stats to the newspaper.

I agree that Swain from Clay is the POY. There are two that are close in runners up including Webb from SV and Schaeffer from ND.

[beaverlover]

Swain would be my POY

[SEOhio]

The Swain girl pitched for Clay in their win against Jackson who won their conference. I think that speaks words to go in and beat a larger school like Jackson.

[Jms]

Schaefer pitched against Ironton last night in Notre Dames 2-1 win. Schaefer had 13 strike outs.....Ironton beat Clay.....just saying

[SEOhio]

Schaefer pitched against Ironton last night in Notre Dames 2-1 win. Schaefer had 13 strike outs.....Ironton beat Clay.....just saying

Nobody is taking anything away from the Schaeffer girl because she is good and only going to get better. We have to remember that she is a sophomore and the Swain girl from Clay is a senior.

[SoftballGirl]

Schaefer pitched against Ironton last night in Notre Dames 2-1 win. Schaefer had 13 strike outs.....Ironton beat Clay.....just saying

Ironton beat Clay...Notre Dame beat Ironton. Not sure what that has to do with anything. Swain didn't pitch against Ironton, she pitched the game before against Coal Grove.

That game was early in the season, 3rd or 4th game of the season. At that point in the season the team was completely different from the end of the season. The shortstop, 2nd Base, 1st Base, Left Fielder, Center Fielder, and Right Fielder were all different from the beginning of the season and now.

Clay...SOC 1 Champions

[SoftballGirl]

Schaefer pitched against Ironton last night in Notre Dames 2-1 win. Schaefer had 13 strike outs.....Ironton beat Clay.....just saying

Nobody is taking anything away from the Schaeffer girl because she is good and only going to get better. We have to remember that she is a sophomore and the Swain girl from Clay is a senior.

Grade shouldn't matter who receives the award. If she is the best player and is a sophomore then she should get it. Its POY not Senior POY. My opinion is that Swain, with her contributions in the circle and at the plate has earned it.

[SEOhio]

Schaefer pitched against Ironton last night in Notre Dames 2-1 win. Schaefer had 13 strike outs.....Ironton beat Clay.....just saying

Nobody is taking anything away from the Schaeffer girl because she is good and only going to get better. We have to remember that she is a sophomore and the Swain girl from Clay is a senior.

Grade shouldn't matter who receives the award. If she is the best player and is a sophomore then she should get it. Its POY not Senior POY. My opinion is that Swain, with her contributions in the circle and at the plate has earned it.

Oh I agree that it isn't senior POY but they are both great pitchers but I feel with two more years of experience that she is the better player at this point in the game. The senior and sophomore status in my post was to reference their experience levels.

[Jms]

I don't have Schaefer's hitting stats but she leads the team in HR's and I guarantee you it is right up there with Swain. But I didn't know Swain was a senior so if it is even close I support going with Senior.

[ColdHardTruth]

Saw them both in multiple games this year.
BOTH are outstanding players.
But if it's a two horse race I'm going with Schaeffer.
You take Swain off of Clay they still win SOC.
You take Schaeffer off of Notre Dame and they aren't even .500

[SoftballGirl]

Saw them both in multiple games this year.
BOTH are outstanding players.
But if it's a two horse race I'm going with Schaeffer.
You take Swain off of Clay they still win SOC.
You take Schaeffer off of Notre Dame and they aren't even .500

Swain gets punished cause she is on a good team...lol. I am not sure about winning the SOC with out her. I am sure JMS can back that up also.

[SEOhio]

Saw them both in multiple games this year.
BOTH are outstanding players.
But if it's a two horse race I'm going with Schaeffer.
You take Swain off of Clay they still win SOC.
You take Schaeffer off of Notre Dame and they aren't even .500

I find it hard to believe that you believe that ND can go from 18-5 to a sub .500 team if you take the one pitcher off the team. I understand that they have a new coach but I couldn't take away that many wins with one girl. They have several good athletes on that team that play multiple sports. I understand that a pitcher can make a team but I also have to disagree with you on this post.

[Jms]

Nobody is trying to punish Swain. Just stating facts. And not sure i can back that up but Clay does have 2 solid pitchers who split mound time this year. ND's 2nd pitcher, Isabel Cassidy, freshman, 2nd base, not quite as experienced on the mound and unfortunately did not get to throw in many games this year.

[SOQueen]

Swain did have a no-hitter for 6 innings against ND and also threw a no-hitter against Green. She has one loss against her and that was to Coal Grove, 3-1 and two of those runs was unearned. Far as hitting, she’s leading the team in HR’s!

[Bravesfan1985]

It would be nice to see an soc l vs soc ll all star game

[ManitouDan2]

Both young ladies are really good , both led their team to fine seasons , I'm sure their coaches will lobby for their kid when it matters at the awards meeting . For now this thread is getting close to being counterproductive and not what this website is about . I speak from the experience of posting tons of stuff I'd like to have never offered up . So lets stay as positive as humanly possible and remember more than likely things said here have a way of making it back to the players involved .

[ManitouDan2]

It would be nice to see an soc l vs soc ll all star game

Not a good idea in my book , in most years , nearly every year , the 2 would handle the 1 with ease . And I was an SOC 1 guy for years and years. The talent pool from the larger schools is just deeper , thats all.

[SEOhio]

Swain did have a no-hitter for 6 innings against ND and Schaeffer gave up 8 runs. Swain also threw a no-hitter against Green. How many no-hitters does Schaefer have? Swain has one loss against her and that was to Coal Grove, 3-1 and two of those runs was unearned. If Swain was the only pitcher for Clay, her strike-outs would be 300+. Now when someone asks me who I want on the mound representing SOC 1, I would have to say Swain. Far as hitting, she’s leading the team in HR’s!

Head to head speaks for itself! That is why I say Swain is the POY.

[Jms]

I don't have all of Schaefer's stats but i do know she threw a 1 hitter and a 3 hitter against Green. I also know the first game with Clay she had to throw the top of the inning in pouring rain and the game was resumed at bottom of 3 in good weather. But again, since i don't have the stats I don't know how many of those 8 runs were earned and how many were on errors. I also know she has thrown 3, 4 and even 5 games in one week.
As stated earlier I feel that if stats are close you go with the Senior. But this is just my opinion and since i don't get to vote my opinion really doesn't matter