Division 5 Region 19 in 2010

[MuletownManiac]

Ok guys thanks, it makes sense now, so when can we start playing Greenup County?

[Bleeding Red]

You are reading my mind today!

[fuzzhead]

This is why you don't schedule teams that are impossible to beat. Nelsonville-York scheduled Ironton last year and St Clairsville this year - two almost-sure losses. You don't get "tough guy" points for having the "guts" to make a ridiculous schedule. Minford doesn't have to schedule D2-sized schools because they play in a good conference so they're either going to win their conference games and get in, or lose them and thus lose to other playoff teams. Also, it's not fair to hound CG for it when you've got Caldwell and Ft Frye in the mix. Also, even though Ridgewood won the region last year, they played such a weak schedule that if they hadn't run the table they wouldn't have even made it in. The only teams in the SOC2 that haven't played a laughable schedule so far are Minford and Burg.
Is Coal Grove down this year? Yes, compared to last year. But all the kids can do is win the games that are scheduled. All of their beaten opponents are supposed to win this week (Trimble and Athens could win out). All of the opponents they've played so far this year except Meigs should finish .500 or better. That's more than can be said of Valley's or West's non-conference schedule. In short, CGs non-conference schedule is realistically made without dillusions of graduer.

[Bleeding Red]

You have good points Fuzz. But I think the original comment was directed toward CG getting hammered by Valley and not understanding why they moved up to #2 in the region. They got alot of points from the Greenup CO win.

Alot is going to happen over the next 4 weeks. The SOC II schools are going to completely shake up Region 19. The balance of 1-8 of that region comes down to 4 ball games.

[I drain 3's]

Fuzzhead, I'm not really trying to start anything, but I've noticed in quite a few threads where you've kind of put down the PVC and most of it's teams. What gives?

[fuzzhead]

Don't have anything against the PVC. Monroe Central just seems to be far and away the best team in it. It's kinda like what we've been discussing: Coal Grove is an inferior team compared to Valley, yet they're 6 spots ahead of them. Last year, Caldwell and Coal Grove were obviously the two worst teams in the playoffs. They both made it in above a Liberty-Union team that returned most of it's players from it's Regional Championship team in 08. I can't respect that, even though I'm a Coal Grove fan. Was I happy for CG, sure. Do I think they deserved to be in? By the Harbin rating, yes. So I may be happy, and their playoff appearance may be justified by the system that's used, but I take it with a grain of salt...

[I drain 3's]

I gotcha. I guess I've just never liked the talk about who should be in the playoffs and who shouldn't. Win the games and it'll all take care of itself.

[NewEra]

^^^That is why they have 25 to 1 odds of winning this region according to Drew Pastuer.

If I were a betting man, I would put my money on Minford, Oak Hill, Fredericktown, or Ridgewood hoisting the Region 19 champion's trophy this year. Unfortunatly then it is off to the slaughter house against Ursuline for any of the above mentioned teams. It would be nice if the OHSAA changed things up a bit this year and matched the Region 19 winner against the 18 or 20 winner. That way at least the winner of this region would have a chance of playing in the title game.

Ask Ursuline about the 2003 Portsmouth West team that came to the "slaughter" house. FEAR NO ONE!

[LetsGoPSU]

amen newera, any given Friday. Ask the Portsmouth Trojans going into a state semi final game in 01, ranked number one and facing an 8 seed

[selonmc]

Don't have anything against the PVC. Monroe Central just seems to be far and away the best team in it. It's kinda like what we've been discussing: Coal Grove is an inferior team compared to Valley, yet they're 6 spots ahead of them. Last year, Caldwell and Coal Grove were obviously the two worst teams in the playoffs. They both made it in above a Liberty-Union team that returned most of it's players from it's Regional Championship team in 08. I can't respect that, even though I'm a Coal Grove fan. Was I happy for CG, sure. Do I think they deserved to be in? By the Harbin rating, yes. So I may be happy, and their playoff appearance may be justified by the system that's used, but I take it with a grain of salt...

The PVC is as down the past 2 years as I've ever seen it in a long time. To stick up for Caldwell they are really a D6 team that got pushed up to D5 the last two years. Their schedule is fine for Region 23. Shenandoah is usually a fine program and has a history of playoff success, but they've been down for the past 5 or 6 years as far as playoff caliber goes. Fort Frye has had zero playoff success ever, and very minimal success in the past 30 years. They are just trying to build a winning tradition. MC has been far and away the best team the past 2 years, but usually there is at least one other team that is at that same level.

[BOHICA]

5 of top ten lose this week

[fuzzhead]

Dang it you beat me to it! Haha
5 of top ten, 7 of top 15. Weeding out the pretenders... Could it be possible that CG hosts in week 11? Stay tuned...

[Steely Dan]

Don't have anything against the PVC. Monroe Central just seems to be far and away the best team in it. It's kinda like what we've been discussing: Coal Grove is an inferior team compared to Valley, yet they're 6 spots ahead of them. Last year, Caldwell and Coal Grove were obviously the two worst teams in the playoffs. They both made it in above a Liberty-Union team that returned most of it's players from it's Regional Championship team in 08. I can't respect that, even though I'm a Coal Grove fan. Was I happy for CG, sure. Do I think they deserved to be in? By the Harbin rating, yes. So I may be happy, and their playoff appearance may be justified by the system that's used, but I take it with a grain of salt...

The PVC is as down the past 2 years as I've ever seen it in a long time. To stick up for Caldwell they are really a D6 team that got pushed up to D5 the last two years. Their schedule is fine for Region 23. Shenandoah is usually a fine program and has a history of playoff success, but they've been down for the past 5 or 6 years as far as playoff caliber goes. Fort Frye has had zero playoff success ever, and very minimal success in the past 30 years. They are just trying to build a winning tradition. MC has been far and away the best team the past 2 years, but usually there is at least one other team that is at that same level.

I think that played itself out tonight with MC getting trounced by Magnolia and FF getting beat handily by Frontier. Shenandoah beat a bad BT team, and River, well, no score yet, but we will see. Caldwell won, so who knows. But the PVC is kind of down right now. It will bounce back. It is a small school league that goes through these cycles. MC had their taste of playing a high seeded playoff type team in Region 19 tonight, and got their hats handed to them. So, MC makes the playoffs, most likely one and done.

[fuzzhead]

So after seeing this, does Frontier beat Caldwell next week, too? Sounds like that Caldwell/FF game could be very interesting...

[Burg_Grad_77]

Could be major shuffling after all the losses amongst the top 17 teams.


1 5-0 1048 Minford Minford 10.7500 - L
2 4-1 458 Coal Grove Dawson-Bryant 8.5000 - W
3 5-0 614 Fredericktown Fredericktown 7.9000 - W
4 4-1 1063 Woodsfield Monroe Central 7.2500 - L
5 5-0 1300 West Lafayette Ridgewood 7.0500 - W
6 4-1 296 Caldwell Caldwell 6.7000 - W
- 5-0 1586 Lucasville Valley 6.7000 - W
8 5-0 442 Crooksville Crooksville 6.2500 - L
9 4-1 162 Barnesville Barnesville 6.0000 - L
10 4-1 314 Cardington Cardington-Lincoln 5.8000 - L
11 4-1 1186 Oak Hill Oak Hill 5.7000 - W
12 4-1 598 Beverly Fort Frye 5.2000 - L
13 3-2 1084 Nelsonville Nelsonville-York 4.7747 - W
14 4-1 1450 Chillicothe Southeastern 4.3121 - L
15 3-2 1696 Wheelersburg Wheelersburg 4.2500 - W
16 2-3 102 Frankfort Adena 3.7000 - W
17 3-2 866 Baltimore Liberty Union 3.5000 - W

[hornet8088]

this week opened some doors for some and put alot of pressure on others. could be verry interesting the last 4 weeks. for the burg the west game just become that much bigger.also the valley game for both sides. minford and west game also. minford and valley.

[seasick80]

Burg should have a 7.25 avg after today. Should get them near 7 thru 9 position. Minford should stay on top. Dont know about the rest.

[LetsGoPSU]

scratches my head...after this week

[55buckeyes98]

Fredericktown is for real!

[LetsGoPSU]

Ive always thought they were. That league always preduces a good champion