2018 Minford Falcons Football Outlook

[14U]

Getting back to Minford.....Ruby was put in a tough situation when Daniels left. Almost every assistant left with Daniels and he had to rebuild his entire staff. I believe this year he has a solid staff that can elevate the players. Jared McCray has been a huge help to the O-line and it showed in the Piketon scrimmage. Having Matiz back will also be a big help on defense. The only complaint I have about Ruby is the culture and atmosphere of the program. The team seems to be missing that drive to be the best they can be. They seem to settle for whatever happens instead of being mad when they get beat. That's something that I'd like to see Ruby change this year.

I thought he didn’t want the assistants coaches coming in? He wanted his own. I agree Matiz will help the D but the O needs to put points up!! Before Matiz left that’s what was hurting, I see how Falcon fans are talking that it’s going to be different this year on scoring points. Last thing is you can’t let that stuff in locker room be happening to the younger players because the team will never Gel and it’s been showing on the sideline and out on the field, need to get that straighten up and have the team gel together!!

[14U]

Wheelersburg athletes stay with the program beyond junior high more often than their counterparts around southern Ohio. They may have a .500 junior high team time to time but they are being taught and coached up in the right ways. For example, for the longest time during Barrick's regime, the Wheelersburg Junior High for sure and most youth teams were not even permitted to play Zone defense. I know coach Woodward has a strong hand in the the football top to bottom as well. If you keep the majority of your kids from Junior High on out and you are doing the right things player development wise, you have a factory as the Burg does.

Thank you.

BTW the Burg thread is over that way >>>>>>>>

It would be a better place for your Burg comments and the secrets as to why Burg is a dynasty.

Haven’t watched much jr high lately but Minford used to be pretty notorious about playing kids out of position at the jr high level. They would put these big huge kids in the backfield to run over kids that were 100lbs smaller. Did they win a lot of jr high games? Yes but it didn’t help there program in highschool. They sacrificed at the highschool level to win a few jr high games. Everyone could look at those 6’2 245lb jr high fullbacks and tell they were future linemen

Your right!! Your program starts at youth level and Minford wanted to win at the youth level but when the players would get to high school they would be done! Minford used to win super bowl most years in pee wee and win bad in jr high but high school wasn’t nothing to talk about after 2-8,3-7or 4-6 years! So would quit, then the team would be all turned around as in running backs would be line and line to running back or ends! Wins and loses nobody cares after the season in jr high but everybody talks after high school. I think it’s a little different in the last 5-8 years in pee wee and jr high

[14U]

The only place you see age be a difference factor is junior high, where Burg historically hasn't been that strong.

That's b/c all the recruiting and transfers hasn't started yet. That should get a few of 'em goin':shock:

Recruiting doesn’t happen but transfers do! If you had a son that is good and could play, start at burg knowing he could go to playoffs every year and get college scouts looking at you more wouldn’t you send him to burg to win and play a 2nd season in week 11? It’s like Ironton in the 70’s, 80’, 90’s and early 00’s. Players from all over in county and other places went to Ironton.

[14U]

If it didn't matter they wouldn't be prep schools. Being age 19 to 19.5 or whatever the case may be makes a HUGE difference in physical maturity. I have known several athletes who have grown 2 even 3+ inches AFTER high school. With all that being said, who cares, everyone can do it, fire up the Pre-1st grade or whatever it is others do. If you want your child to be 19 on the gridiron to better compete in high school athletics or mature emotionally before entering the "real world" hold your child back. No need for the bickering on here back and forth, it is what it is.

If a child is young or not doing school work well I agree that the pre 1st is great but if they are the age or A, B student and doing it for sports only I don’t agree with it! But like you said it is what it is and everybody can do it at any school if they wish too. Also if they are age eligible to play then what’s the argue, right?

[Blitz]

I wouldn’t say “never” but really even if they are 19 during a season it makes a big difference especially in boys.

I 110% agree it makes a difference. I just get tired of all the idiots claiming Burg and other schools have 20 somethings playing sports.... it's just STUPID and incorrect. Playing at 19 is the rule so why complain about a team following the rules.... again it's just stupid. i am willing to bet that every SOC II team has 19 year old on their team.... some more than others

You just said that there "has never been a player older than 19 in the history of Ohio high school sports at Burg or anywhere".

Want to make a bet on that? I would be careful on who you call "idiots" after making a stupid statement like that.

i guess i should clarify... since OHSAA was established no 20 year olds played the previous rule was you lost eligibility if you turned 19 before the start of school your senior year.. the new rule lets older kids play.... the new ruling is less strict not more

[14U]

You just said that there "has never been a player older than 19 in the history of Ohio high school sports at Burg or anywhere".

Want to make a bet on that? I would be careful on who you call "idiots" after making a stupid statement like that.

So are you saying the burg is breaking rules and playing 20 year olds?

Not anymore since they changed the rule this year.

There has never been a 20 year old play high school or they would have turned in and forfeit their season and everything they won!! I remember playing a team in a sport in high school and one player was 20 he was cut off team and team forfeit all games to that point. With burg being on radar for being dominant on most sports, and if there was a 20 year old it would have be caught or turned in by somebody because of the disliked like they are!!

[14U]

Ruby on the hot seat? And here we go again with the age crap, jealous ones still envy I guess.

If Ruby is on the Hot Seat after two years it just not because of his record it’s because of what’s going on behind the scenes, locker room, weight room etc!! Horse play, no discipline and can’t control his players putting pics of activity in both!! I heard some players don’t play because of this. That’s just stuff I’ve heard and seen (pics) on social media with name of school with it.

[14U]

While I agree with the point of "team" mentality that your post was trying to illustrate, I hardly think there is constant "bickering" among the Minford fans on here or in the community. The Minford program took a complete nosedive when Ruby took over. To single it out on one particular issue is not fair as we saw a decline in the overall coaching staff, weight program, etc. This year the coaching staff is much improved to what Ruby had the past 2 years. I know they have changed the weight/conditioning philosophy as well and it is apparent in the look of some of the kids after only one offseason.

They are still dealing with 14-18 year old kids in Minford, far different than the 18-21 year olds that roam the gridiron at Burg
So we will just call it a difference in maturity.

According to the OHSAA Regulations on age, it states that where a high school student (grades 9-12) turns 20 years of age, he/she becomes ineligible for interscholastic athletics. So , therefore there are not any 20 or 21 year olds roaming the gridiron at Burg.

There definitely was last year, and the previous year, and the year before that.....etc etc.

Want to dispute? I am sure it would only take me a few minutes to throw a large list together.

I would like to know just a few 20 plus year old the played for burg? Can you put some down for us from other schools?

[14U]

I wouldn’t say “never” but really even if they are 19 during a season it makes a big difference especially in boys.

I 110% agree it makes a difference. I just get tired of all the idiots claiming Burg and other schools have 20 somethings playing sports.... it's just STUPID and incorrect. Playing at 19 is the rule so why complain about a team following the rules.... again it's just stupid. i am willing to bet that every SOC II team has 19 year old on their team.... some more than others

You just said that there "has never been a player older than 19 in the history of Ohio high school sports at Burg or anywhere".

Want to make a bet on that? I would be careful on who you call "idiots" after making a stupid statement like that.

Everybody in the county knows there has been some 19 year olds playing but not 20 or ineligible to play!! I’ve seen many teams have some 19 on their team

[14U]

If your following the rules who cares. If you can do it and don’t it’s your fault. Quit the whining

You’re right! If people complain about this for 40 years and had time to do it theirselves during that time. If they haven’t, then it’s their own fault not waiting to start their child a year later etc!!

[BondRoad Bandit]

If your following the rules who cares. If you can do it and don’t it’s your fault. Quit the whining

You’re right! If people complain about this for 40 years and had time to do it theirselves during that time. If they haven’t, then it’s their own fault not waiting to start their child a year later etc!!

Man you need to relax! Lol, social media is hard to control with players unless it’s brought to the coaches attention or administrators attention it’s hard to do anything about it. And again horse play if you are referring the kid having to get 3 stitches in the weight room that wasn’t from horse play. You just need to chill with all that.

[14U]

If your following the rules who cares. If you can do it and don’t it’s your fault. Quit the whining

You’re right! If people complain about this for 40 years and had time to do it theirselves during that time. If they haven’t, then it’s their own fault not waiting to start their child a year later etc!!

Man you need to relax! Lol, social media is hard to control with players unless it’s brought to the coaches attention or administrators attention it’s hard to do anything about it. And again horse play if you are referring the kid having to get 3 stitches in the weight room that wasn’t from horse play. You just need to chill with all that.

What I was told it was last year was players was told and nothing else, then it was happening again this year and told again!! I’m going to ask a friend out there what was done again. I was also told that scioto county detectives were called and brought in for school and football, any truth?

[14U]

If your following the rules who cares. If you can do it and don’t it’s your fault. Quit the whining

You’re right! If people complain about this for 40 years and had time to do it theirselves during that time. If they haven’t, then it’s their own fault not waiting to start their child a year later etc!!

Man you need to relax! Lol, social media is hard to control with players unless it’s brought to the coaches attention or administrators attention it’s hard to do anything about it. And again horse play if you are referring the kid having to get 3 stitches in the weight room that wasn’t from horse play. You just need to chill with all that.

Ur athletic director knows it all. Also no not stitches, it’s worse ya better ask around. I’m done with it. Thanks

[Proud_Pirate63]

Wheelersburg athletes stay with the program beyond junior high more often than their counterparts around southern Ohio. They may have a .500 junior high team time to time but they are being taught and coached up in the right ways. For example, for the longest time during Barrick's regime, the Wheelersburg Junior High for sure and most youth teams were not even permitted to play Zone defense. I know coach Woodward has a strong hand in the the football top to bottom as well. If you keep the majority of your kids from Junior High on out and you are doing the right things player development wise, you have a factory as the Burg does.

Thank you.

BTW the Burg thread is over that way >>>>>>>>

It would be a better place for your Burg comments and the secrets as to why Burg is a dynasty.

Bleeding Red wrote: ↑

While I agree with the point of "team" mentality that your post was trying to illustrate, I hardly think there is constant "bickering" among the Minford fans on here or in the community. The Minford program took a complete nosedive when Ruby took over. To single it out on one particular issue is not fair as we saw a decline in the overall coaching staff, weight program, etc. This year the coaching staff is much improved to what Ruby had the past 2 years. I know they have changed the weight/conditioning philosophy as well and it is apparent in the look of some of the kids after only one offseason.

They are still dealing with 14-18 year old kids in Minford, far different than the 18-21 year olds that roam the gridiron at Burg
So we will just call it a difference in maturity.


Says the guy who brought up The Burg in the first place.

[Proud_Pirate63]

Seriously though Bleeding Red, what record do you think the Falcons will finish with? Are there any losses from last year you think they will avenge this season? Is this Ruby’s last year or will he finally be on the right track?

[falcon117]

Seriously though Bleeding Red, what record do you think the Falcons will finish with? Are there any losses from last year you think they will avenge this season? Is this Ruby’s last year or will he finally be on the right track?

I believe if Minford found some way to win 5-6 games, the year would be a success. Aside from Wheelersburg, West and Waverly lost a lot of talent and I am not sure what they have to replace that talent. Especially the QB from Waverly. If Ruby chooses to start Kelly, it will be the first time in several years that Minford will have the same QB two years in a row.

[BondRoad Bandit]

You’re right! If people complain about this for 40 years and had time to do it theirselves during that time. If they haven’t, then it’s their own fault not waiting to start their child a year later etc!!

Man you need to relax! Lol, social media is hard to control with players unless it’s brought to the coaches attention or administrators attention it’s hard to do anything about it. And again horse play if you are referring the kid having to get 3 stitches in the weight room that wasn’t from horse play. You just need to chill with all that.

Ur athletic director knows it all. Also no not stitches, it’s worse ya better ask around. I’m done with it. Thanks

You need to change your name to brett mcmurphy 2.0 if the proper people know about it and it was addressed then move on. Every school district in the country goes through social media problems. Let them handle it.

[BondRoad Bandit]

Seriously though Bleeding Red, what record do you think the Falcons will finish with? Are there any losses from last year you think they will avenge this season? Is this Ruby’s last year or will he finally be on the right track?

They will get oak hill back for last year, I think 6-4, 7-3 could happen if they play an upset roll to either waverly, NY or west.

[Proud_Pirate63]

Seriously though Bleeding Red, what record do you think the Falcons will finish with? Are there any losses from last year you think they will avenge this season? Is this Ruby’s last year or will he finally be on the right track?

They will get oak hill back for last year, I think 6-4, 7-3 could happen if they play an upset roll to either waverly, NY or west.

I agree. I’m thinking a 6-4 year but if they could upset any of those three would be great.

[Bleeding Red]

Seriously though Bleeding Red, what record do you think the Falcons will finish with? Are there any losses from last year you think they will avenge this season? Is this Ruby’s last year or will he finally be on the right track?

If they can run the ball far better than last year, they finish 6-4 at worst or 8-2 at best.

If they cant runt the ball (ala vs Logan last year) they go 6-4 at best.

They have a much improved line, a very fast and strong backfield and the defense will be much better.

We will see.