2018 Playoff news and notes. State Finals Edition!

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Omega wrote: Sat Oct 27, 2018 10:59 am There are annual tales of teams with sterling records getting left out of the playoffs and the opposite. Any playoff system using a harbin like system rewards both strength of schedule and wins over fan's eyeball evaluation.

One of the ways to reduce surprises in playoff qualifiers would be to qualify the top 32 teams in points in each class state wide, regardless of geographic region.

Another would be district schedules to determine playoff qualifiers, as in Kentucky.

The first would leave many SE Ohio teams on the outside of the playoffs. The second would likely see teams with losing records make the field.

No system is perfect so the status quo looks good.
But, the BEST teams in the STATE in each division would be in, regardless of record and there would be a lot closer games , especially in round one. There would be more travel though when certain parts of the state dominant certain classes.


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If we took the Top 32 teams by Computer Average we would then have the top 32 teams by points and not necessarily the Best 32 teams.

Wheelersburg’s win over an 8-2 D5 Oak Hill team would be weighted exactly the same as it is now. There would not be geographical factors. Somehow, I think you believe that by removing geography and regions it would greatly affect the process. I’m not so sure. And now my OCD is screaming at me. So, I think I will compare D1 and possibly D5 at the Region System vs Overall top 32 and then we can see.

Give me a few minutes.

Scheduling tough is not rewarded. Losses have 0 worth. Waverly and Oak Hill were the most valuable teams on Wheelersburg’s schedule I believe.


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D5

Playoff teams under current Regional System

Region 17
Orrville
Akron Manchester
Labrae
Columbiana Crestview
Gilmour Academy
Magnolia Sandy Valley
Wickliffe
Massillon Tuslaw

Region 18
Genoa Area
Liberty Center
Oak Harbor
Elyria Catholic
Marion Pleasant
Anna
Miami East
Millbury Lake

Region 19
Johnstown Monroe
Ridgewood
Meadowbrook
Martins Ferry
Bellaire
Oak Hill
Amanda CC
Ironton

Region 20
Wheelersburg
Madison
West Jeff
Madeira
Jamestown Greenview
CHCA
Portsmouth
Portsmouth West

Top 32
1. Wheelersburg
2. Genoa Area
3. Johnstown Monroe
4. Madison
5. Liberty Center
6. Oak Harbor
7. Elyria Catholic
8. Orrville
9. Akron Manchester
10. Marion Pleasant
11. West Jefferson
12. Anna
13. Labrae
14. Miami East
15. Ridgewood
16. Columbiana Crestview
17. Gilmour Academy
18. Meadowbrook
19. Martins Ferry
20. Millbury Lake
21. Bellaire
22. Madeira
23. Jamestown Greenview
24. Oak Hill
25. Richwood North Union * 9th in 18
26. Magnolia Sandy Valley
27. Wickliffe
28. Archbold * 10th in 18
29. CHCA
30. Massillon Tuslaw
31. Amanda CC
32. Portsmouth

33. Ironton
34. Portsmouth West.

So there is D5 compare/contrast current vs top 32 regardless of geography.

This year North Union and Archbold would get in and Ironton and Portsmouth West would be out

Region 17 — 8 teams either way
Region 18 — 10 teams in with Top 32
Region 19 — lose Ironton
Region 20 — lose West.


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Top playoff appearances updated to include this year

1) Newark Catholic — 35
Cincinnati Moeller — 35
3) Ironton — 34
4) Mogadore — 32
5) Steubenville — 31
6) Wheelersburg — 30


Only 2 teams are making their initial playoff appearance this year.

D4 R16. Springfield Northwestern.
D1 R2. Toledo Start.
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2 teams you don’t want to play in the First Round:

Colerain 19-0
St Henry 16-0.

All time in openers.


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Last year the home team went 83-29 in the first round

Only One 8 seed won a first round game (Reading over Miami East — D5 R20). 1 seeds went 27-1 last year

There were 33 teams who entered the playoffs undefeated last year.

Undefeated teams this year:

D1 — 1
D2 — 8
D3 — 1
D4 — 3
D5 — 3
D6 — 4
D7 — 4

Total of 24 this year


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Interesting.Thanks for taking the time to do that.


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Springfield Shawnee finished 7th in D4 Region 15

Had to win week 10 vs Johnathan Alder to make playoffs.

Tied 14 - 14 with 4 seconds to go they set up for a game winning 25 yard FG.

Coaches kid is the kicker. Coach Rick Meeks calls for the kicker.

Junior.

She made it.

Andi Meeks

Wonder how the coaches wife was doing?


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AP Poll Champions

D1: Cincinnati Colerain. Region 4
D2: Akron Hoban. Region 5
D3: Kettering Alter. Region 12
D4: Cincinnati Wyoming. Region 16
D5: Genoa Area. Region 18
D6: Kirtland. Region 21.
D7: Sycamore Mohawk. Region 26


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Playoff teams by Record

10-0 — 22
9-0 — 2
9-1 — 62
8-1 — 2
8-2 — 48
7-2 — 5
7-3 — 48
6-3 — 4
6-4 — 20
5-5 — 11


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Playoff teams who are returning from last year

D1 — 22
D2 — 19
D3 — 12
D4 — 21
D5 — 17
D6 — 19
D7 — 23

133 of 224 are returning


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Playoff Teams looking for their 1st win:

D1 — Toledo Start, Kettering Fairmont, Milford
D2 — Garfield Heights, Painesville Riverside, Holland Springfield, Parma Heights Valley Forge
D3 — Medina Buckeye, Granville, Hillsboro
D4 — Wintersville Indian Creek, CVCA, Bloom-Carroll, Unioto, Fairland, Cincinnati Taft, Springfield Northwestern
D5 — Magnolia Sandy Valley, Millbury Lake, Meadowbrook, Cincinnati Madeira
D6 — Salineville Southern, Attica Seneca East, Galion Northmor, Frankfort Adena
D7 — New Philadelphia Tusky Central Catholic, Edgerton, Cincinnati Miami Valley Christian Academy, Hamilton New Miami.


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I'm pretty sure this will be the 4th different division Portsmouth has completed in. They were d4 their last few trips, d3 in 00, d2 in the late 80's. I'm pretty sure they were still d1 at some point as they were a AAA school under the 3 division format. Oh how the mighty have fallen.


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Portsmouth playoff appearances
1984, 1988, 1991, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2007, 2018

1979 was the last year for the AAA, AA, A classification

1984 Portsmouth advanced to the D3 state semis. There were 5 divisions then.

2000 Portsmouth advanced to the D3 state semis. There were 6 divisions then.

2001, 2002, 2004 and 2007 saw Portsmouth competing in Division 4.

This is their first appearance as a D5 program.


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LucasDavenport wrote: Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:43 pm Portsmouth playoff appearances
1984, 1988, 1991, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2007, 2018

1979 was the last year for the AAA, AA, A classification

1984 Portsmouth advanced to the D3 state semis. There were 5 divisions then.

2000 Portsmouth advanced to the D3 state semis. There were 6 divisions then.

2001, 2002, 2004 and 2007 saw Portsmouth competing in Division 4.

This is their first appearance as a D5 program.
I just checked in 88 they were d2 region 8, in 1991 they were d2 region 7. If I remember correctly in 1999 they were in D4 and lost to Valley View.


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D1 R1

1 Mentor v 5 Canton McKinley
7 St Edward’s v 3 Euclid

D1 R2

1 Reynoldsburg v 4 Olentangy Liberty
2 Dublin Coffman v 3 Toledo Whitmer

D1 R3

1 Hilliard Davidson v 4 Springfield
2 Northmont v 6 Pickerington Central

D1 R4

1 Colerain v 4 Milford
7 Lakota East v 3 Elder
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D2 R5

1 Akron Hoban v 5 Garfield Heights
2 Maple Heights v 6 Painesville Riverside

D2 R6

1 Toledo Central Catholic v 4 Avon Lake
2 Whitehouse Anthony Wayne v 3 Avon

D2 R7

1 Massillon Washington v 5 Whitehall Yearling
7 Tri-Valley v 3 Wadsworth

D2 R8

1 Winton Woods v 5 Little Miami
7 Anderson v 3 Troy
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D3 R9

1 Canfield v 5 Akron East
2 Chagrin Falls Kenston v 3 Medina Buckeye

D3 R10

8 Rocky River v 4 Norwalk
7 Lexington v 6 Sandusky

D3 R11

1 Bishop Hartley v 4 Eastmoor Academy
2 Granville v 6 Sheridan

D3 R12

1 Kettering Alter v 5 Hamilton Badin
2 Wapakoneta v 3 Bishop Fenwick


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D6 R21

1 Mogadore v 5 McDonald
2 Kirtland v 3 Creston Norwayne

D6 R22

1 Seneca East v 4 Columbus Grove
7 Fairview v 3 Hillsdale

D6 R23

1 Paint Valley v 4 Shadyside
2 Fort Frye v 3 Galion Northmor

D6 R24

1 Coldwater v 5 St Henry
2 Lima Central Catholic v 3 Marion Local


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Record by Seeds for Friday Night.

1 seed — 15-1
2 seed — 10-6
3 seed — 12-4
4 seed — 8-8
5 seed — 8-8
6 seed — 4-12
7 seed — 6-10
8 seed — 1-15

Home teams went 45-19


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