Jackson Ironmen 2019

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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by BillC » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:16 pm

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Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:31 am
This isn’t a fast backfield overall. Spires can take it to the house but is more of a punishing type back. Graham is also a hard runner who is best between the tackles. Parks and Johnson are similar , smaller than the other two but strong fast and hard nosed. Both need to do a good job of taking care of the ball as they fight for yardage. Icenhower is very good at ball fakes and is a formidable runner also. Get these backs going downhill and let them punish tacklers . Spires and Graham need carries to get going. Keep running them and they’ll break one in the 3rd and 4th quarters . Parks and Johnson are great change of pace runners . When you have a thoroughbreds you turn em loose and let em run. This will help the line get in a rhythm and fire out and engage someone. The zone blocking in space is harder than getting a hat on a hat.

Jackson will be fine but needs to find its indentity early and not later.

Ice can sure sling it around and will have several nice weapons to throw too. But Jackson football shoulda always be about a smash mouth run game . My 2 cents
If someone can “sure sling it around” and you have the weapons, why should it always be about smash mouth run game? That makes no sense to me. Especially when size is so obviously going to be an issue this year. I’d guess this team will likely be the smallest Jackson has had in years, if not ever. I would think the first priority would be getting the ball in the end zone with the best available tools. Western Brown would have been a win had the mentality not been “we must run the ball” . We waited too long to use the tools available.
Just my opinion



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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by Poo Bear » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:32 pm

BillC wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:16 pm
Poo Bear wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:31 am
This isn’t a fast backfield overall. Spires can take it to the house but is more of a punishing type back. Graham is also a hard runner who is best between the tackles. Parks and Johnson are similar , smaller than the other two but strong fast and hard nosed. Both need to do a good job of taking care of the ball as they fight for yardage. Icenhower is very good at ball fakes and is a formidable runner also. Get these backs going downhill and let them punish tacklers . Spires and Graham need carries to get going. Keep running them and they’ll break one in the 3rd and 4th quarters . Parks and Johnson are great change of pace runners . When you have a thoroughbreds you turn em loose and let em run. This will help the line get in a rhythm and fire out and engage someone. The zone blocking in space is harder than getting a hat on a hat.

Jackson will be fine but needs to find its indentity early and not later.

Ice can sure sling it around and will have several nice weapons to throw too. But Jackson football shoulda always be about a smash mouth run game . My 2 cents
If someone can “sure sling it around” and you have the weapons, why should it always be about smash mouth run game? That makes no sense to me. Especially when size is so obviously going to be an issue this year. I’d guess this team will likely be the smallest Jackson has had in years, if not ever. I would think the first priority would be getting the ball in the end zone with the best available tools. Western Brown would have been a win had the mentality not been “we must run the ball” . We waited too long to use the tools available.
Just my opinion
I think Jackson does best when it establishes the run then passes out of that . When has Jackson ever been a great passing team ?

Western brown was lost because they gave up 27 unanswered points in first quarter . Totally unprepared to play a football game.



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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by Ironman92 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:36 pm

BillC wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:16 pm
Poo Bear wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:31 am
This isn’t a fast backfield overall. Spires can take it to the house but is more of a punishing type back. Graham is also a hard runner who is best between the tackles. Parks and Johnson are similar , smaller than the other two but strong fast and hard nosed. Both need to do a good job of taking care of the ball as they fight for yardage. Icenhower is very good at ball fakes and is a formidable runner also. Get these backs going downhill and let them punish tacklers . Spires and Graham need carries to get going. Keep running them and they’ll break one in the 3rd and 4th quarters . Parks and Johnson are great change of pace runners . When you have a thoroughbreds you turn em loose and let em run. This will help the line get in a rhythm and fire out and engage someone. The zone blocking in space is harder than getting a hat on a hat.

Jackson will be fine but needs to find its indentity early and not later.

Ice can sure sling it around and will have several nice weapons to throw too. But Jackson football shoulda always be about a smash mouth run game . My 2 cents
If someone can “sure sling it around” and you have the weapons, why should it always be about smash mouth run game? That makes no sense to me. Especially when size is so obviously going to be an issue this year. I’d guess this team will likely be the smallest Jackson has had in years, if not ever. I would think the first priority would be getting the ball in the end zone with the best available tools. Western Brown would have been a win had the mentality not been “we must run the ball” . We waited too long to use the tools available.
Just my opinion
Western Brown game was lost because the defense was completely lost the entire 1st qrt



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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by packers80 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:15 pm

The ironmen will field a very nice team this year, lots of athletes and lots of string kids.


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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by Poo Bear » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:24 pm

Was super Impressed with Jackson during the passing scrimmage . Icenhower can sling it anywhere . The freshmen winters looked great as a reciever . Strong hands, big strong body. Garrett Dailey looks more confident this season. A lot of weapons .



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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by Sunoco » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:23 pm

Poo Bear wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:24 pm
Was super Impressed with Jackson during the passing scrimmage . Icenhower can sling it anywhere . The freshmen winters looked great as a reciever . Strong hands, big strong body. Garrett Dailey looks more confident this season. A lot of weapons .
Too many checkdown throws with guys open down the field. Prater is fast and is going to give defenses fits. Winters did look impressive at receiver. Still waiting to see him get his opportunity at QB. He looked good at safety with another pick. Defense looked really good. Davis and Cross is getting better at backer. Prater will be a very good shutdown corner. Still need to find another corner. Tomorrow the competition will be top notch so we will see how good this group really is.



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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by Poo Bear » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:44 pm

Sunoco wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:23 pm
Poo Bear wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:24 pm
Was super Impressed with Jackson during the passing scrimmage . Icenhower can sling it anywhere . The freshmen winters looked great as a reciever . Strong hands, big strong body. Garrett Dailey looks more confident this season. A lot of weapons .
Too many checkdown throws with guys open down the field. Prater is fast and is going to give defenses fits. Winters did look impressive at receiver. Still waiting to see him get his opportunity at QB. He looked good at safety with another pick. Defense looked really good. Davis and Cross is getting better at backer. Prater will be a very good shutdown corner. Still need to find another corner. Tomorrow the competition will be top notch so we will see how good this group really is.
You won’t see how good this group is until the pads come out and the pressure really kicks in. This is all flag football.



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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by Sunoco » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:18 pm

Poo Bear wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:44 pm
Sunoco wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:23 pm
Poo Bear wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:24 pm
Was super Impressed with Jackson during the passing scrimmage . Icenhower can sling it anywhere . The freshmen winters looked great as a reciever . Strong hands, big strong body. Garrett Dailey looks more confident this season. A lot of weapons .
Too many checkdown throws with guys open down the field. Prater is fast and is going to give defenses fits. Winters did look impressive at receiver. Still waiting to see him get his opportunity at QB. He looked good at safety with another pick. Defense looked really good. Davis and Cross is getting better at backer. Prater will be a very good shutdown corner. Still need to find another corner. Tomorrow the competition will be top notch so we will see how good this group really is.
You won’t see how good this group is until the pads come out and the pressure really kicks in. This is all flag football.
I agree with you about the pads to see how physical they will be but tomorrow will see how athletic the boys are.



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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by Poo Bear » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:35 pm

Sunoco wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:18 pm
Poo Bear wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:44 pm
Sunoco wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:23 pm


Too many checkdown throws with guys open down the field. Prater is fast and is going to give defenses fits. Winters did look impressive at receiver. Still waiting to see him get his opportunity at QB. He looked good at safety with another pick. Defense looked really good. Davis and Cross is getting better at backer. Prater will be a very good shutdown corner. Still need to find another corner. Tomorrow the competition will be top notch so we will see how good this group really is.
You won’t see how good this group is until the pads come out and the pressure really kicks in. This is all flag football.
I agree with you about the pads to see how physical they will be but tomorrow will see how athletic the boys are.
I have faith in them. I’m super excited



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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by Sunoco » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:42 pm

I’m hoping to make it to Dayton tomorrow. Anyone know the schedule yet?



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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by Poo Bear » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:09 pm

Any updates from Dayton today ?



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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by countywide35 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:48 am

Went ok poo. They will be just fine. I’m ready for what we do best to start.

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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by IronTough2 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:05 am

Does anyone know what teams will be at Jackson Friday for the 7 on 7? Last one of these and then let the real football begin. Hydrate,hydrate,hydrate with these heat indexes!!!



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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by morganjones » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:30 am

Is the QB situation “the elephant in the room?”

Down here in Gallia County, we keep hearing that we should expect to see the Rookie as the starting QB before mid-season...



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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by Mel Kiper » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:39 am

There is no way Jackson is winning more than 5 games this year with their QB controversy, I expect to see the same disappointment from a couple years ago



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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by Football1013333 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:41 am

Hearing the Freshman Quarterback is looking at a chance to start after that 7 on 7.... That sounds promising!!!



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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by Sunoco » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:48 am

morganjones wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:30 am
Is the QB situation “the elephant in the room?”

Down here in Gallia County, we keep hearing that we should expect to see the Rookie as the starting QB before mid-season...
I don't think that will happen. Icenhower is the guy no matter how well he plays. So far he has been looking really good. I see them running the ball a lot anyway with the group of backs they have. The 'rookie' hasn't been getting many reps at QB but when he does play he looks real good. He will be fun to watch in the years to come. It looks like he may be playing defense and some at receiver. His time will come.



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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by Sunoco » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:00 am

Mel Kiper wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:39 am
There is no way Jackson is winning more than 5 games this year with their QB controversy, I expect to see the same disappointment from a couple years ago
There is no QB controversy. Icenhower is the man.



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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by Todd McShay » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:07 am

I’m hearing the same. The Rookie is making eyes turn and already has D-1 looks. The rookie has a chance to start. Icenhower is on thin ice.



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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by Mel Kiper » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:11 am

I think in respect to icenhower he's the best overall QB seeing how he has multiple D1 offers being g at his 5'10" stature



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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by madpolecat » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:12 am

I know the young QB pretty well, folks. He’s legit on all levels.

But I can’t see him displacing the three-year starter.



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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by Mel Kiper » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:27 am

Putting a freshman in for a tough schedule like Jackson's could be disastrous



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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by Todd McShay » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:46 am

Mel Kiper wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:27 am
Putting a freshman in for a tough schedule like Jackson's could be disastrous
The Rookie would perform just as good as Icenhower. The schedule favors The rookie play style better.



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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by countywide35 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:05 am

Quit with the QB controversy talk. That’s the last thing this team needs is a bunch of soap opera drama heading into August. The 3yr starter is the man as of now and if something would happen then there’s someone to immediately step up. Sounds like coach Andy hall knows what he’s doing. don’t create something or a distraction for them. they don’t need it.
Stick to business boys.



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Re: Jackson Ironmen 2019

Post by Sunoco » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:11 am

countywide35 wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:05 am
Quit with the QB controversy talk. That’s the last thing this team needs is a bunch of soap opera drama heading into August. The 3yr starter is the man as of now and if something would happen then there’s someone to immediately step up. Sounds like coach Andy hall knows what he’s doing. don’t create something or a distraction for them. they don’t need it.
Stick to business boys.
Agreed!



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