Next Coach at Logan?

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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by Chief02 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:23 am

loganlocos wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:10 am
teach1coach2 wrote:
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In 2004 Tri-Valley was hunting for a new head football coach. It was a program that seldom had any success. After weeks of hunting for a coach they narrowed it to 3 candidates. The superintendent then took a step back and decided none of the 3 were really what the school needed. He reposted the job and started calling all the successful veteran football coaches in the area asking if they knew of any young guys who had no varsity coaching experience but have the potential to be a successful coach and build a program from the ground up. Coach Ifft at Dover told the supt. that an asst. that left Dover to become the defensive coordinator at Hillard Davidson a couple years back would be the type of guy he was hunting for. Supt. Doug Spade called Justin Buttermore and asked him to apply. He applied, met with committee, was offered the job and accepted it. The rest is history. A very successful 14 year history. Sometimes, someone just has to have the drive to do what it takes to find the best coach out there. Most just accept the best of what applies.
This is a great story.

Logan's admin has definitely talked with area coaches - looking for someone who has the potential to be a game changer the way someone like Buttermore or Penrod have been at TV/Alex/Gallia/Granville. But let's be honest - it still takes some luck. A lot of schools think they have hired "that guy" - and they don't work out. Not every risk becomes a Justin Buttermore.

I don't believe Logan has stuck solely to the candidates who applied. I think they've gone out looking for the right person.


In reality - a lack of league and thus control over the schedule is going to be a major hurdle.

Still, I am optimistic about a couple of names I have heard. We'll have to wait and see.
Good info Locos. Hopefully their efforts result in a solid selection.



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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by koondoger » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:29 am

loganlocos wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:10 am
teach1coach2 wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:20 pm
In 2004 Tri-Valley was hunting for a new head football coach. It was a program that seldom had any success. After weeks of hunting for a coach they narrowed it to 3 candidates. The superintendent then took a step back and decided none of the 3 were really what the school needed. He reposted the job and started calling all the successful veteran football coaches in the area asking if they knew of any young guys who had no varsity coaching experience but have the potential to be a successful coach and build a program from the ground up. Coach Ifft at Dover told the supt. that an asst. that left Dover to become the defensive coordinator at Hillard Davidson a couple years back would be the type of guy he was hunting for. Supt. Doug Spade called Justin Buttermore and asked him to apply. He applied, met with committee, was offered the job and accepted it. The rest is history. A very successful 14 year history. Sometimes, someone just has to have the drive to do what it takes to find the best coach out there. Most just accept the best of what applies.
This is a great story.

Logan's admin has definitely talked with area coaches - looking for someone who has the potential to be a game changer the way someone like Buttermore or Penrod have been at TV/Alex/Gallia/Granville. But let's be honest - it still takes some luck. A lot of schools think they have hired "that guy" - and they don't work out. Not every risk becomes a Justin Buttermore.

I don't believe Logan has stuck solely to the candidates who applied. I think they've gone out looking for the right person.


In reality - a lack of league and thus control over the schedule is going to be a major hurdle.

Still, I am optimistic about a couple of names I have heard. We'll have to wait and see.
A quick call to the "interim" AD at NY was all that was needed. He certainly knows the right guy for the job. If you know what I mean wink, wink... :mrgreen:


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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by ravensfan09 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:05 pm

I dont think you could pry the coach you are referring to out of retirement!! No way!!!



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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by Ground Buck » Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:03 pm

koondoger wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:29 am
loganlocos wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:10 am
teach1coach2 wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:20 pm
In 2004 Tri-Valley was hunting for a new head football coach. It was a program that seldom had any success. After weeks of hunting for a coach they narrowed it to 3 candidates. The superintendent then took a step back and decided none of the 3 were really what the school needed. He reposted the job and started calling all the successful veteran football coaches in the area asking if they knew of any young guys who had no varsity coaching experience but have the potential to be a successful coach and build a program from the ground up. Coach Ifft at Dover told the supt. that an asst. that left Dover to become the defensive coordinator at Hillard Davidson a couple years back would be the type of guy he was hunting for. Supt. Doug Spade called Justin Buttermore and asked him to apply. He applied, met with committee, was offered the job and accepted it. The rest is history. A very successful 14 year history. Sometimes, someone just has to have the drive to do what it takes to find the best coach out there. Most just accept the best of what applies.
This is a great story.

Logan's admin has definitely talked with area coaches - looking for someone who has the potential to be a game changer the way someone like Buttermore or Penrod have been at TV/Alex/Gallia/Granville. But let's be honest - it still takes some luck. A lot of schools think they have hired "that guy" - and they don't work out. Not every risk becomes a Justin Buttermore.

I don't believe Logan has stuck solely to the candidates who applied. I think they've gone out looking for the right person.


In reality - a lack of league and thus control over the schedule is going to be a major hurdle.

Still, I am optimistic about a couple of names I have heard. We'll have to wait and see.
A quick call to the "interim" AD at NY was all that was needed. He certainly knows the right guy for the job. If you know what I mean wink, wink... :mrgreen:
A little off topic, but Koondoger I think you should apply for he VC HFC job. I've heard the two main attributes they're looking for are:

1. A catchy nickname- What better nickname is there than "Koondoger"?

2. A "proven winner"- Didn't you recently say you've won a state championship?


So, you should be a shoe-in for he job. :mrgreen:



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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by Zaphod_Beeblebrox » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:05 pm

I am curious about the Nickname Joke for VC head coaches, how did this start?


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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by Dundas » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:07 pm

Zaphod_Beeblebrox wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:05 pm
I am curious about the Nickname Joke for VC head coaches, how did this start?
It just a joke some people from Nelsonville like to talk about. It’s been around a few years now. I think it’s a way of getting back at VC since NY has dropped 2 of the last 4 to the Vikings.



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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by Poo Bear » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:24 pm

Jeff Downs available after being released by VC.
He was
6-4
8-2 playoffs
3-7
5-5
4-6

Fairly successful at a school who had been sputtering since Matt queen was fired



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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by Zaphod_Beeblebrox » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:39 pm

Dundas wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:07 pm
Zaphod_Beeblebrox wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:05 pm
I am curious about the Nickname Joke for VC head coaches, how did this start?
It just a joke some people from Nelsonville like to talk about. It’s been around a few years now. I think it’s a way of getting back at VC since NY has dropped 2 of the last 4 to the Vikings.
I see :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by Dundas » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:54 am

Poo Bear wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:24 pm
Jeff Downs available after being released by VC.
He was
6-4
8-2 playoffs
3-7
5-5
4-6

Fairly successful at a school who had been sputtering since Matt queen was fired
Really poo? Really?? Smh



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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by Chief02 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:13 am

Dundas wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:54 am
Poo Bear wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:24 pm
Jeff Downs available after being released by VC.
He was
6-4
8-2 playoffs
3-7
5-5
4-6

Fairly successful at a school who had been sputtering since Matt queen was fired
Really poo? Really?? Smh
No thanks Poo



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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by Poo Bear » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:13 am

Dundas wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:54 am
Poo Bear wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:24 pm
Jeff Downs available after being released by VC.
He was
6-4
8-2 playoffs
3-7
5-5
4-6

Fairly successful at a school who had been sputtering since Matt queen was fired
Really poo? Really?? Smh
Post queen
Downs 30-31
Others 30-100



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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by Chief02 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:25 am

Mediocrity is not the goal Poo. We have dealt with that.



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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by Poo Bear » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:32 am

Chief02 wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:25 am
Mediocrity is not the goal Poo. We have dealt with that.
Logan has more talent and more resources to be a good program tho



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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by loganlocos » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:13 am

Downs is a good coach.

I've never met him and never followed his teams super close, but he never seems to be somewhere very long. That certainly raises a red flag. Whether he gets bored or whether schools get bored with him, I don't know.

I mean, the guy took Fed Hock to the playoffs and has done a nice job in two stints at VC.


However, I'm pretty sure he didn't apply for the Logan job and I don't believe at this point Logan will need to look outside of the group they are interviewing this week.



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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by ravensfan09 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:54 am

Chief02 wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:25 am
Mediocrity is not the goal Poo. We have dealt with that.
What are you expecting for the new coach to accomplish?



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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by Chief02 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:09 pm

ravensfan09 wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:54 am
Chief02 wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:25 am
Mediocrity is not the goal Poo. We have dealt with that.
What are you expecting for the new coach to accomplish?
I don’t know.....is it too much to ask to rebuild a program? To put pride back into Chieftain Football Nation? To be a contender instead of a wannabe contender?

I don’t expect a state championship. I expect that we get to the point that we contend in most games instead of asking ourselves most Friday nights “how bad is this drubbing going to be?”. What does that take? It takes rebuilding from the ground up. It takes outreach. It takes communication.

Like Locos, I don’t know much about the former VC coach. However, his record of not staying places long is a major red flag and hinders the things I mentioned.....rebuilding, outreach, and communication. If he is that hot of a commodity for doing so much with so little, maybe he should be getting offers around 270.



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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by Dundas » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:13 am

Poo Bear wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:13 am
Dundas wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:54 am
Poo Bear wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:24 pm
Jeff Downs available after being released by VC.
He was
6-4
8-2 playoffs
3-7
5-5
4-6

Fairly successful at a school who had been sputtering since Matt queen was fired
Really poo? Really?? Smh
Post queen
Downs 30-31
Others 30-100
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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by koondoger » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:32 pm

Dundas wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:07 pm
Zaphod_Beeblebrox wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:05 pm
I am curious about the Nickname Joke for VC head coaches, how did this start?
It just a joke some people from Nelsonville like to talk about. It’s been around a few years now. I think it’s a way of getting back at VC since NY has dropped 2 of the last 4 to the Vikings.
Rusty is 2-1 against you jackashes and you had to cheat him to beat him at your place last season so there's no need to be "getting back at VC." And have you looked at the all time record between the two? :mrgreen:


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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by Dundas » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:55 pm

koondoger wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:32 pm
Dundas wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:07 pm
Zaphod_Beeblebrox wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:05 pm
I am curious about the Nickname Joke for VC head coaches, how did this start?
It just a joke some people from Nelsonville like to talk about. It’s been around a few years now. I think it’s a way of getting back at VC since NY has dropped 2 of the last 4 to the Vikings.
Rusty is 2-1 against you jackashes and you had to cheat him to beat him at your place last season so there's no need to be "getting back at VC." And have you looked at the all time record between the two? :mrgreen:
That’s funny. Haha



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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by koondoger » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:08 pm

Dundas wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:55 pm
koondoger wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:32 pm
Dundas wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:07 pm


It just a joke some people from Nelsonville like to talk about. It’s been around a few years now. I think it’s a way of getting back at VC since NY has dropped 2 of the last 4 to the Vikings.
Rusty is 2-1 against you jackashes and you had to cheat him to beat him at your place last season so there's no need to be "getting back at VC." And have you looked at the all time record between the two? :mrgreen:
That’s funny. Haha
Yes, I agree that all-time record is comical. :mrgreen:


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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by Barber1973 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:46 pm

Oh the cheat thing thats comical rite there



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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by koondoger » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:05 pm

Barber1973 wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:46 pm
Oh the cheat thing thats comical rite there
Yea I agree, all you can do is laugh cause to do otherwise just draws another yellow flag. It's unfortunate but it is what it is. You just have to know you're down 14 before you step off the bus at VC and Wellston. :mrgreen:


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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by koondoger » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:11 pm

koondoger wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:08 pm
Dundas wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:55 pm
koondoger wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:32 pm


Rusty is 2-1 against you jackashes and you had to cheat him to beat him at your place last season so there's no need to be "getting back at VC." And have you looked at the all time record between the two? :mrgreen:
That’s funny. Haha
Yes, I agree that all-time record is comical. :mrgreen:
In case you hadn't found it, the all time record between NY and VC is:

NY 41

VC 10

Hey, I said it was comical! :mrgreen:

:mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen:


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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by Kenny Bixx » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:47 pm

Is Logan gonna pull a rabbit out of the hat like they plan to do at Cole Grove?



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Re: Next Coach at Logan?

Post by koondoger » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:01 pm

Kenny Bixx wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:47 pm
Is Logan gonna pull a rabbit out of the hat like they plan to do at Cole Grove?
I think I may have VC on board with that process. But for that Logan bunch it's a tougher sell. They seem more entrenched in old hiring process traditions and sub par outcomes. :mrgreen:


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