Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

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Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by ZTAthletics » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:14 pm

The Pioneers will be hosting the Johnnies in a triple-header Tuesday starting at 4:45.



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Re: Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by Ironman92 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:28 pm

I assume they are good



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Re: Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by 25th Street NW » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:30 pm

Johnstown-Monroe is 8-1. Their only loss was to Columbus Academy at home last week. They have good wins against DeSales and Jonathan Alder in OT. Zane Trace lost in OT to the Johnnies last year.

Johnstown has only gave up 35 ppg in 9 games.



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Re: Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by Ironman92 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:56 pm

25th Street NW wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:30 pm
Johnstown-Monroe is 8-1. Their only loss was to Columbus Academy at home last week. They have good wins against DeSales and Jonathan Alder in OT. Zane Trace lost in OT to the Johnnies last year.

Johnstown has only gave up 35 ppg in 9 games.
Should be fun...would be a real good win for ZT



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Re: Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by bsee12345 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:42 pm

Very interesting game. Johnstown is led by their defense. They are led by 6'5 Hazelbacker. Their role players know what they are to do and play very well together. Very good team and if they get a lead will slow it way down. One of their games was a 33-16 win.
My take on the game is ZT will look to get Hazelbacker in foul trouble and seen how the dice roll. So yes the officiating will play a role in this game. If Hazelbacker is the game for 4 quarters I like Johnstown's chances of winning.



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Re: Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by HamPorter » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:32 am

Can't wait to see this one!



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Re: Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by 25th Street NW » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:05 pm

Johnstown-Monroe 50
Zane Trace 39

Final

ZT (11-3)
JM (8-1)

ZT got to 37-33 with about 4 minutes left and Hazelbaker hit a big 3 from the corner after a Zane Trace rally. He went for 21 pts/19 boards. Johnstown-Monroe is very well coached. They post up deep and get the ball to the guys who should get the ball. Evans got hot in the second half and kept ZT in the game.



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Re: Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by petesweaty » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:18 pm

Wednesday night:

Granville 35
Johnstown-Monroe 32

Final/2 OT

I think that was for the lead of the Licking County League.



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Re: Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by Burg_10 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:44 pm

petesweaty wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:18 pm
Wednesday night:

Granville 35
Johnstown-Monroe 32

Final/2 OT

I think that was for the lead of the Licking County League.
Yet another reason for a shot clock in high school. Double OT to get to 35-32. Brutal.
I’m sure both are very good teams but that’s awful to watch methodical play like that.



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Re: Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by mlittle » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:50 pm

Burg_10 wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:44 pm
petesweaty wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:18 pm
Wednesday night:

Granville 35
Johnstown-Monroe 32

Final/2 OT

I think that was for the lead of the Licking County League.
Yet another reason for a shot clock in high school. Double OT to get to 35-32. Brutal.
I’m sure both are very good teams but that’s awful to watch methodical play like that.
Absolutely need a shot clock



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Re: Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by 25th Street NW » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:05 pm

Johnstown was not really methodical against Zane Trace. They get the ball to their best options, then play really good defense. Killed ZT on the boards.



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Re: Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by LucasDavenport » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:45 pm

petesweaty wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:18 pm
Wednesday night:

Granville 35
Johnstown-Monroe 32

Final/2 OT

I think that was for the lead of the Licking County League.
Granville hit a 3 from a few steps inside half Court to force OT. At 29-29.


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Re: Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by mikepike » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:46 pm

If you want a shot clock, go play in the NBA. Real basketball is played in high school.



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Re: Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by Ironman92 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:55 pm

mikepike wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:46 pm
If you want a shot clock, go play in the NBA. Real basketball is played in high school.
It’s just an opinion either way



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Re: Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by greygoose » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:09 pm

mikepike wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:46 pm
If you want a shot clock, go play in the NBA. Real basketball is played in high school.
:roll:

Great insight



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Re: Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by mlittle » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:12 pm

greygoose wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:09 pm
mikepike wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:46 pm
If you want a shot clock, go play in the NBA. Real basketball is played in high school.
:roll:

Great insight
😂😂😂



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Re: Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by mlittle » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:23 pm

College basketball must not be real either.

I personally would hate to go watch a game that was faster paced, forced players into end of game situations every possession and also forced players and coaches to actually attack their weaknesses and get better at game planning and at their skills instead of trying to neutralize all those things by holding the ball for 3 minutes at a time. A shot clock sounds totally boring



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Re: Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by greygoose » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:04 pm

mlittle wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:23 pm
College basketball must not be real either.

I personally would hate to go watch a game that was faster paced, forced players into end of game situations every possession and also forced players and coaches to actually attack their weaknesses and get better at game planning and at their skills instead of trying to neutralize all those things by holding the ball for 3 minutes at a time. A shot clock sounds totally boring
Very true, I guess for anyone who would be opposed my one question would be why?? https://sports.yahoo.com/high-school-ba ... 14578.html The reality is the only thing you are telling your team is, we can't play with these guys so we are going to try and not let them shoot and if we get lucky maybe we win. Currently it is within the rules so more power to a team that does it, see no downside to having a shot clock though.



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Re: Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by mlittle » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:12 pm

greygoose wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:04 pm
mlittle wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:23 pm
College basketball must not be real either.

I personally would hate to go watch a game that was faster paced, forced players into end of game situations every possession and also forced players and coaches to actually attack their weaknesses and get better at game planning and at their skills instead of trying to neutralize all those things by holding the ball for 3 minutes at a time. A shot clock sounds totally boring
Very true, I guess for anyone who would be opposed my one question would be why?? https://sports.yahoo.com/high-school-ba ... 14578.html The reality is the only thing you are telling your team is, we can't play with these guys so we are going to try and not let them shoot and if we get lucky maybe we win. Currently it is within the rules so more power to a team that does it, see no downside to having a shot clock though.
It’s forced learning. It may be a little rough at first but it would absolutely force players and coaches to evolve.



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Re: Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by bucknuts09 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:21 pm

I’m assuming Norm would oppose this idea😂😂😂😂



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Re: Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by HamPorter » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:22 pm

Give me a shot clock ASAP



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Re: Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by Hoopie74 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:30 pm

It's all about match ups. If a team has few players and gets a lead against a bigger team that packs it in with a zone defense I say work clock and settle for nothing but a layup or a foul to pull them out. It's worked great for decades and is as old as the game. You play whatever allows you the best match ups and chance to win.I love a coach that evolves each year to coach as the team deems necessary. Big strong team with skill players- pound it in.lo ng, lean athletic and fast press ,trap and press relentlessly. Small,skilled with good shooters- depends on matchups more with each game.



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Re: Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by mikepike » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:39 am

I guess I’m old fashioned. College, in many cases, is just like watching the NBA. I’d much rather watch a high school game. I like the fact that the coaches coach, and it isn’t always the best or most physical team wins.



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Re: Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by mlittle » Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:23 am

mikepike wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:39 am
I guess I’m old fashioned. College, in many cases, is just like watching the NBA. I’d much rather watch a high school game. I like the fact that the coaches coach, and it isn’t always the best or most physical team wins.
Nothing wrong with being old fashioned! But I’d still classify NBA and college real basketball. That’s just me tho. I don’t mind a slower pace at times but honestly high school wouldn’t have to implement a 24 second clock. They could go with a 40 second clock which would speed up the game but still allow teams to stall just not for entire quarters.



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Re: Zane Trace vs Johnstown-Monroe

Post by danicalifornia » Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:58 am

mlittle wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:23 am
mikepike wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:39 am
I guess I’m old fashioned. College, in many cases, is just like watching the NBA. I’d much rather watch a high school game. I like the fact that the coaches coach, and it isn’t always the best or most physical team wins.
Nothing wrong with being old fashioned! But I’d still classify NBA and college real basketball. That’s just me tho. I don’t mind a slower pace at times but honestly high school wouldn’t have to implement a 24 second clock. They could go with a 40 second clock which would speed up the game but still allow teams to stall just not for entire quarters.
I think if the shot clock happens, then it will likely be in the 35 to 40 second variety, which I would accept.



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